Fort's Writings: A Satire on Science & Scientific Theories?

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I posted this in the wrong place but now it has found it's home.

I just finished 'The Book of the Damned' and what I'm wondering is: are Fort's theories ment to be satirs on the scientists he's critisising. Are the superstrutures, super saragosa seas and all their delightfull kin clever deconstructions of how scientific theory is formed. Is the book one long satire?
 
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A Fortean game

I think with his notions of the Super-Sargasso Sea, superconstructions, etc., Fort meant to show that hwoever wild an alternative idea is, it is still as valid as other ideas as it based on the same data.

It is unilkely Fort actually believed any of his theories (''I believe nothing of my own that I have ever written'') but he did say that he accepted certain constants, such as teleportation, but that anysuch constants were fluctuating and amorphous, with nothing being definate in itself.

The book is satirical, but Fort I think wanted to go deeper, and show that scientists accept only a handful of conventionally-acceptible ideas based on their data. Fort offered wilder interpretations of data- consider his challenge to readers of Lo! to send in the 'looniest' theories they could, and Fort would choose the 'looniest' and find data to prove it. For example, we have evidence that the world is hollow, and that it is not: which is it? Adm. Byrd flew hundreds of miles beyond the North Pole- yet geologists say P and S waves of earthquakes indicate the inner structure of the Earth. Personally, I think it's hollow, at least in part.

I think Fort was aggreived by the conventionality of Science in accepting only a few choice ideas that enatly concur with the other conventionalised ideas. Maybe he thought the fun haD gone out of Science. Then again, today we have featherless chickens, glowing mice and the Sinclair C-5.

I can remember an episode of The Simpson's, where Bart, angry at being rejected at an audition, goes to Mr Burns' mansion, and starts throwing stones through the windows. One such rock smashes the window of Mr Burns' office. Burns goes over, picks it up, and remarks:

''Oh, look, Smithers, a bird has become petrified and lost its sense of direction''

Mr Burn's could simply had noted that a rock had been thrown through the window. But no: Mr Burn's decided, using data that a rocky thing had come through the window, and the data that birds fly and sometimes imapct windows, to determine that t bird had become petrified and lost its sense of direction.

I propose a game:

FT readers come up with the looniest notions they can, say for Conspiracies, and we put it to FT messageboarders to find data to prove it, from books, the Internet, or wherever. It would be interesting to see what we could prove.

Oh, what a world
 
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Re: A Fortean game

Originally posted by Iankidd
I propose a game:

FT readers come up with the looniest notions they can, say for Conspiracies, and we put it to FT messageboarders to find data to prove it, from books, the Internet, or wherever. It would be interesting to see what we could prove.

Oh, what a world
I have played this game. We called it elumanatie (well you know what I mean.) Here is my prise wining conspiracy:

The cows are planing to take over. Have you ever noticed how they huddle together in the fields and look at you as you pass by?

Oh yes then ther's cat's eyes. Say no more.
 
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Posted by jamesveldon:
The cows are planing to take over. Have you ever noticed how they huddle together in the fields and look at you as you pass by?
But WHO is telling them to huddle together?
 
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Who Controls The Cows II

I guess the one who controls the cows would be a cowmander-in-chief?
 
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Re: Who Controls The Cows II

nonoe controls the cows they are their own masters.

They'll come for the meat eaters first.
 
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Posted by jamesveldon:
Oh yes then ther's cat's eyes. Say no more.
I've never liked the way they look at you, like we're big mice they haven't worked out how to deal with yet, but will. And that reminds me, I posted on another thread about winged cats not long ago.

The b*stards have learned to fly!

(PS. See no-one clicked me link.:( )
 
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Originally posted by Wastrel

The b*stards have learned to fly!

(PS. See no-one clicked me link.:( )
I am now terified. Let us go to the fields and kill the bastards before they get us!

First recevers in fillings and now spy cows. To quote Lard 'Wilma get me the electric drill!"
 
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Obvious really...

I've been trying to alert everyone to the threat for years...

Its all the hobby horses. They're bvehind it all.

Its true.

I've got the proof.
 
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Symbiotic conspiracies

Perhaps the cows and the cats are in dominance?

Common connection: MILK

Cows produce milk and for that we rely on them

Cats drink milk and for that rely on US ('us' not 'US')

Yet cats, being lazy animals, do not want to rely on something else, lest that thing use the reliance to make the cat do something.

So...

Cats, wanting to remove their reliance on humans, ally with cows

Cows give milk to cats in exchange for...?

You don't often gets cats on farms:

Humans are trying to keep the powerful forces of cats and cows apart:

Perhaps this is the purpose of the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP)?

Farmers keep cats out of farms so the cats and cows can't co-ordinate

Thatcher got rid of milk for children in schools: 'Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher'

Why?

To reduce human dependance on milk: to lessen and weaken the hold of cows over humans

Sure, we could remove cow control over humans by killing all the cows, but what would that achieve?

No milk. No decent milk, anyway.

Thatcher takes milk from us to protect our children, our long-term strategic asset, from biological warfare by the milk-producing cows.

Human governments respond in turn to this bovine biowarfare with the *controlled* release of BSE into the UK cow population. As an island with a lot of cows, we are suitabel as a biological warfare test facility- lest the European cow juntae realise what the human governments are planning:

The BSE warfare goes well, and the cows are put in their place...

Until the cows also respsond with CJD, in which case human governments realise that they can't use biological warfare against cows

So we have signed a kind of truce, between Cow and Human.

Hence the EU shifting its focus from agriculture to common European unification= to make us stronger, after the Bovine-Human War.

Do I see it all now?


The Indians see cows as sacred. Indians see tigers as semi-scared.

Yet the Indians are killing tigers.

Tigers are 'big cats'- uber-felines, no less.

Indians kill tigers to keep the uberfelines from the theo-cows.

Keep the Big Cheeses of the two species apart: the tiger-lords and the cow-gods.

Hmmm
 

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Re: Symbiotic conspiracies

Iankidd said:
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You don't often gets cats on farms:

/Snip Snip/
Sorry, in my experience, farms are utterly hooching in cats.
(Translation: there's lots of 'em)

So I'm afraid your well-reasoned and sequential argument fails. Sorry again.
:miaow:
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Ian's argument also fails on another crucial point: the assumption that Thatcher would have done something for the good of humanity. You had me going right up till then.
 
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Beakboo: ''Ian's argument also fails on another crucial point: the assumption that Thatcher would have done something for the good of humanity. You had me going right up till then.''

True, Thatcher may not have done much for the good of humanity, but you misunderstand:

When Thatcher got rid of milk for children, it wasn't for the sake of the health of the children, it was to protect the strategic asset that is children- to protect our future soldiers, fighters pilots, submariners and Tories from bovine influence.

Without children, the cows would win, and Torism would be destroyed forever.

Thatcher could never allow that. But, observign her present condition, the cows Got To Her. Too late...

Cows 1- 0 Forces of Evil (Tories)
 
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I never realised that there where others out there willing to take a stand agenst the cows. As long as one human thinks then the cows can never win.

LONG LIVE MAMALS WITH ONE STOMACH!
 

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Why do dogs worry sheep?

Because they are telling them the truth about the conspiracy between their farm colleagues and the cats.

It's obvious, however, that any alliance would only be temporary and I doubt there is any real reason why the sheep will go for it...

"I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us.
Pigs treat us as equals." - Winston Churchill.
 

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I'm with you guys on this one. Bill Hicks also mentions how the pigeons are involved too :

I love talking about Kennedy. I was just down in Dallas, Texas. You know you can go down there and, er, to Dealey Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated. And you can actually go to the sixth floor of the Schoolbook Depository.

It's a museum called... 'The Assassination Museum'. I think they named that after the assassination. I can't be too sure of the chronology here but... Anyway they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day. And it's really accurate, you know, cos Oswald's not in it.

"Yeah, yeh so wow that's cool." Painstaking accuracy, you know. It's true, it's called the 'Sniper's Nest'. It's glassed in, it's got he boxes sitting there. You can't actually get to the window as such but the reason they did that of course, they didn't want thousands of American tourists getting there each year going
[Mimes looking out of window]
"No fucking way! I can't even see the road. Shit they're lying to us. Fuck! Where are they? There's no fucking way. Not unless Oswald was hanging by his toes, upside down from the ledge.

Either that or some pigeons grabbed onto him, flew him over the motorcade... Surely someone would have seen that. You know there was rumours of anti-Castro pigeons seen drinking in bars... Someone overhead them saying 'coup, coup' Coo. Unbelievable.

We're through the looking glass here people..
 
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