RE: the deprogramming (or talking around, if you like), I can only say again - I am trusted by the family and have a gentle, patient approach when dealing with most people's problems (also, as they have known me for +20 years, I am sorta like family anyway). I can tell you as part of what I considered her de-programming was re-teaching her how to study - I was amazed at how poor her attention was (no, not bloody ADHD - too easy to diagnose that). However, thankfully, her ability to study at length has returned. It needed some discipline and guidleines + a patient teacher. I am very please how things have turned out - yet, I am still concerned by how people use 'magic and mysticism' to cover ulterior motives, and horrified at the result I saw. Perhaps, it was more shocking for me as I was closer to the family and couldn't maintain as 'removed' view.