Genepax: The Car That Runs On Water

MrRING

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So - is this the mythical water car we've been dreaming of?

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Genepax Water Energy System Makes Cars Fueled by Water a Reality

Running cars fueled by water used to be just a figment of science fiction flicks--not anymore. Japanese company Genepax Co Ltd presented the prototype of its vehicle which runs purely out of water and air through a fuel cell system called WES or Water Energy System. While the nitty-gritty of the technology is kept under wraps (as would be expected), we're informed of how it (generally) works. The secret of running a car on water is apparently the use of a special membrane electrode assembly (MEA). Genepax's MEA is capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction. In short, although the car is fueled by water, it's hydrogen that really runs it

Unlike other hydrogen-powered cars though, the Genepax technology eliminates the need for a hydrogen tank or a hydrogen reformer and even a catalyst. Moreover, unlike systems runs on direct methanol fuel cells (DMFC), carbon dioxide isn't a byproduct (which is one of the limiting factors of DFCs, by the bye). Genepax has already unveiled a 120W fuel cell stack and a 300W fuel cell system recently, with plans to bump those output figures up to 1kW for use in vehicles and residential homes. The current cost of production of a single car ran by Genepax's system US$18,522, but the company plans to scale it down to US$4630 for mass production.
 

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No. It's still using a chemical reaction, all it's doing is releasing energy stored in the chemicals.

You could do essentially the same thing with a lump of metallic sodium.

However, if they have a compact and efficient means of storing and releasing energy that has high enough energy density to compete with petrol, it might well be viable as a means of powering cars of the future. You'd still have to generate the electricity to do it somewhere, but it solves the big problem of how to run a car from a wind turbine.
 

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Weren't there press reports 10 or 15 years ago regarding an engine that supposedly ran on liquid nitrogen, with the only emission being water?
 

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Although you can get membranes that will separate mixtures of substances (eg, in the desalination of water) I don't see how a membrane could separate chemical compounds.

It takes energy to separate water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen, and recombining these will release exactly the same amount of energy.

A catalyst may facilitate certain chemical reactions, but it doesn't magic up any extra energy from out of the blue. This genepax thing sounds like something for nothing - but I hope I'm wrong!
 

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There is still a Genepax website at:

https://www.genepax.com/index.html

... but it doesn't seem to have been updated since circa 2016.

This site touts electrolysis units to support hydrogen-fuel applications, but refers all visitors over to another site:

electricity4gas.com

... which is either extinct or disabled.
 
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