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I have spent almost my entire life living in Niagara Falls Ontario. Alot has happened to me as far as paranormal experiences are concerned and I feel that this place is definately an epicentre of paranormal experiences.

As most of us are aware there has been some battles fought between the Canadian side and the American side.

If anyone of you ever visit this place, there is a great free area in the township of Chippawa to go. I recommend going at around dusk as this is when I have experienced most of my apparition sightings.

http://www.niagaraparks.com/heritage-tr ... -park.html

I once saw 3 ghostly apparitions moving along the roadside and into the tree line while a girl and I were hanging out ;) Needless to say, activities stopped and wandering commenced
 
Would love to visit Niagara Falls. My gf's relatives live in Toronto so hopefully will get over one day.

Strangely enough I was watching a few videos on YouTube last night and noticed there are a fair few videos on there of people jumping into the river :shock:

Thus you would think there must be a few unhappy spirits around the place.

Such immense forces of nature like that terrify me. Would love to have a ride in the Maiden of the Mist but I would be absolutely petrified until back on dry land.
 
Not that far away is Fort Niagara, NY: elsewhere I posted this link about ghostly goings-on there:
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/10/20/World ... enon.shtml
Phantom or phenomenon?
Something spooky is going on, say employees at a historical fort. Strange lights. Mysterious reflections. On the case: an investigator of the paranormal.
By DAVID BALLINGRUD, Times Staff Writer
© St. Petersburg Times
published October 20, 2002

AMHERST, N.Y. -- Old Fort Niagara has a ghost, of course, and that's as it should be. It would be hard to imagine a more likely home for a spirit.

Perched on a rocky shore where the Niagara River flows north into Lake Ontario, the 300-year-old fort seems perfect for haunting. Long, dark stone hallways open into shadowy chambers on either side. No sunlight penetrates here; the place is musty and foreboding on the brightest day.

Fort Niagara's ghost is that of an 18th century French soldier, headless now following swordplay over a beautiful Indian maiden. His chopped-up body was tossed into the well of the old fort, his head into Lake Ontario a few feet away.

Now, when the moon is full, the ghost rises from the well and goes looking ... well, you get the drift. No one has ever seen the ghost, and no one takes the old legend very seriously -- just something to entertain visiting school kids.

Why then, is Doug DeCroix feeling so creepy?

etc...
(And, having just studied an aerial photo of the area, I now realise my previous mental picture of Niagara Falls was upside down! The Niagara River flows north!)
 
McAvennie_ said:
Would love to visit Niagara Falls. My gf's relatives live in Toronto so hopefully will get over one day.

Strangely enough I was watching a few videos on YouTube last night and noticed there are a fair few videos on there of people jumping into the river :shock:

Thus you would think there must be a few unhappy spirits around the place.

Such immense forces of nature like that terrify me. Would love to have a ride in the Maiden of the Mist but I would be absolutely petrified until back on dry land.

oddly enough I have never ridden on the Maid of the Mist, I have some friends that go down there to fish and end up pulling out some nice sized trout and salmon :D

there is usually quite a bit of suicide attempts, and even some where people go over the falls but come out unscathed and unharmed, those people will face charges by either side American or Canadian, end up spending some time in a hospital for observation and possible jail time !

Toronto however isn't very far, when flying in you'll land there but to take a day trip down to Niagara, would literally only take you about an hour depending on how fast or slow your driving

Fort George of Niagara does do Ghost Tours but realistically I have been on it a few times and have limited to no action. The real action takes place when you have kids and teenagers sneaking / breaking into the place !

I know the one place in the middle of fort George to be one of the most eerie feeling places to visit, but due to strangers experiences they will absolutely not go in this white officers quaters during the ghost tours.

I once had someone approach me telling of some investigations set to be done and the need of some helpers which I had volunteered for but plans fell through and alas I still haven't even been to the quaters
 
I just wanted to share this experience with all of you as well as it was one happening that has stuck with me for years as if it happened yesterday.

A friend of mine lives at the bottom of Lundy's Lane. A Battle took place called the Battle of Lundys in 1812. Brutal massacre and many many deaths. Now a couple centuries later it is littered with many different blocks of housing, complete with a strip of shopping stores, tourist stores, eat in diners and fast food joints. On the side of one of the hills sits a highschool called Stanford highschool and on the opposite side, more blocks of housing. I imagine alot of these places people experience many things that are unexplainable, but I believe there aren't as many reports of it as most people will just chalk it up to randomness or just are too comfortable with it happening because of the amounts of things happening.

My friends house was located on the lower side of the hill, across the street from Stanford highschool a couple blocks over called Lowell Ave. They had moved in and had been living there for almost a year with not much out of the ordinary going on other then the typical arguement between parents who have a few children together. I spent many nights hanging out playing games or just chatting with the both of them. A few times my friends wife would swear that she would hear noises and get the hebbie jeebies but we would pass it off as she was always saying something about this kind of stuff no matter where she has lived ( maybe a ghost following her around or in her head was all I could think). The house was made in the 1900's, it had 3 levels, upper, lower and basement. All wood flooring aside from the basement which remained concrete. During the winter my friend and I would go downstairs for a smoke in the bathroom and would just open the window and close the door.

Out of no where one day my friend started scolding me for leaving the door open and the light on downstairs in the bathroom. I swore to him I purposefully shut the door and turn the lights out because A. no smoke going into house B. save on power ( they weren't very well off ). After talking it over he started to believe me but you could tell he still wasn't sure about it and needed someone other then himself to blame. I tried telling him he was sleep walking or going down there or someone going down there like his kids or wife during the night and just forgot to do either or. Because they had told me about a few weird sounds and experiences we also spoke about the consideration of them having a spirit in the home. His wife once again was quick to jump on the topic but he and myself are a little more skeptical on the assumption of what we were saying.

I told him if he wanted to see for sure if something was messing with him, that he should shut the door and turn out the light himself before going to sleep, make sure the kids doors were closed so that if they opened them he would hear it. Old wood floors seem to creak quite a bit during the summer to fall, winter time or at least from what I have noticed.

After a few weeks of doing this, he kept coming back to me with reports of the door being open and the light being on in the morning as he would leave to go to work.

I told him and his wife that if that is all that happens, that its probably something friendly and nothing more to worry about.

One night while watching movies at the house we could hear a thumping noise coming from the basement, not only this but I could feel the vibration coming from the floor during each thump. I imagined an old lady with a broom poll hitting the roof telling the nieghbours upstairs to quite down but after acknowledging the sound between all of us it stopped.

On another seperate occasion the wife of my friend swore up and down that a helium balloon followed her daughter around the house, even as the child circled the kitchen table, this I told her must have been caused by the childs draft as she walked the balloon may catch the windy wave and follow the childs momentum, still thinking to myself there's got to be a natural reason to explain all these happenings.

The last instance I describe, solely happens to me myself and no one else. We had been watching movies again in the mid level, while the children slept upstairs. I had been drinking and needed to use the bathroom. Instead of going upstairs to a pink bathroom and possibly waking the kids because of the creeky stairs I decided to go downstairs. The family had a dog that followed me everywhere because I had been the one to drive to the humaine society to rescure it. The walk way to go downstairs was through the kitchen. It had one of those track doors that break in the middle as you either slide it open or closed. I decided to close the door because I didn't want to chase the dog after my piss. I walked downstairs, switched on both lights, got to the bottom and then turned left. I went into the bathroom and shut the door a creek, not the whole way because no one was down there with me, but just enough if someone did decide to come down ( didn't want to be seen peeing hah ) halfway through my pee I heard what sounded like someone running down the stairs,. boom boom boom boom and then walk by the bathroom ( to me it sounded like quatroy pants and the slick slick slick between the legs as you walk and the pants rub ) anyway I chalked all this up to my friend trying to scare me. It sounded like he went around the corner to hide and scare me when I came out of the bathroom. I finished up, opened the door and walked around the corner saying, " Pat I know your there why are you trying to scare.... " No one was there at all.

Now this took me back quite alot. I didn't know what to say or do but I had been watching some tv shows that people are always like, do something blah blah blah.

So I said outloud, I know your there, I heard you come down the stairs and I can feel you around the corner here. I asked for a sign and felt like someone stood infront of me and blew in my face as hard as they could.

No draft experienced before or after has felt like this.

I ran upstairs, shared my experience and freaked out the owners as well. To this day they no longer live at the home and I'd be interested to hear what experiences the new owners have but this experience quite honestly solidified my opinion on life after death and the paranormal things that we truely don't understand until we join them
 
If ghosts are, as has been increasingly suggested, "peripatetic electro-magnetic fields," I wonder if the tremendous amount of electrical energies generated by all that cascading water, might have some effect on attracting "spooks" to the area or at least assist in their visualization.
 
I was on holiday there last month. Nothing particularly weird happened...

There were some fantastic creepy abandoned houses, though.

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Travel info - You can get there really easily and cheaply from Toronto's central coach station, just go in and ask one of the surly and unkempt harridans behind the counters for a day ticket.
 
What the hell is that place? Looks like something off the Universal Studios backlot
 
McAvennie_ said:
What the hell is that place? Looks like something off the Universal Studios backlot

I suspect we ask the tenant. He spends daytimes there, in the basement, sleeping in his native earth.
 
OldTimeRadio said:
If ghosts are, as has been increasingly suggested, "peripatetic electro-magnetic fields," I wonder if the tremendous amount of electrical energies generated by all that cascading water, might have some effect on attracting "spooks" to the area or at least assist in their visualization.

When you do go walking around the actual Niagara Falls area, near a place called the Whirlpool Rapids you can definitely feel a vast amount of energy, its filled with underground fresh water springs, trees and rocks 1000's of years old very magical :D
 
Out of interest, does falling water actually create electrical energy? My high school physics education makes me think it's just converting potential energy into kinetic energy.
 
ttaarraass said:
Out of interest, does falling water actually create electrical energy? My high school physics education makes me think it's just converting potential energy into kinetic energy.
Waterfalls ionize the air: there's a lot on the web about this topic, eg:
Ions are molecules that have gained or lost an electrical charge. . They are created in nature as air molecules break apart due to sunlight, radiation, and moving air and water. You may have experienced the power of negative ions when you last set foot on the beach or walked beneath a waterfall. While part of the euphoria is simply being around these wondrous settings and away from the normal pressures of home and work, the air circulating in the mountains and the beach is said to contain tens of thousands of negative ions -- Much more than the average home or office building, which contain dozens or hundreds, and many register a flat zero.

"The action of the pounding surf creates negative air ions and we also see it immediately after spring thunderstorms when people report lightened moods," says ion researcher Michael Terman, PhD, of Columbia University in New York.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/n ... tive-vibes
 
Does that also apply to the eerie yet quite pleasant "electrical excitement" many of us experience just before violent thunderstorms?
 
jubecrew said:
I once saw 3 ghostly apparitions moving along the roadside and into the tree line while a girl and I were hanging out ;) Needless to say, activities stopped and wandering commenced

I've heard it suggested that ghosts use roads for precisely the same reason the living do - to travel from place to place.
 
Not quite Niagara Falls but close by

First-time poster here - please excuse any goofs in how I do this.

A while ago I was researching my mother's family history in Ontario and turned up this, from the Ontario Ghost and Hauntings Research Society website: John Robert Colombo, in "Mysteries of Ontario," reproduced a photograph of a ghostly figure from St. Mark's Church in Niagara on the Lake. Colombo wrote that, "Possibly, the ghost of Archdeacon William McMurray [rector of the Church from 1857 to 1894] is the tall man dressed in black that has been seen in this church. Even an amateur photographer taking a snap of the altar in 1978 of this historic house of worship is said to have caught an image of the ghost or ghosts... Faint hooded figures are seen around the altar although the photographer never noticed anything amiss or anyone near the alter." (See http://www.torontoghosts.org/niagara/stmarks1.htm)

I'm not sure why credit for the haunting would go to McMurray (my great-great-grandfather) - but I must say I like the possibility of having a ghost in the family.
 
The authority of a website is thrown into doubt when when it uses 'alter' for altar (IMHO ;) )
 
It means they don't proofread properly and raises the question of how meticulous they are in other areas, but I'm seeing a lot of typos even in books from major companies these days and everybody slips up occasionally. I often misspell occasion, for instance! It's an intriguing lead she can follow up while researching family history, anyway! Please, if you find out anything more about why your ancestor features in a ghost story, share with us!

We always like to hear stories. Some of us like to nitpick them to death, too, but don't take that personally if it happens. We all enjoy in our own way.
 
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