Ghosts & Computers (Including The Vertical Plane)

Just seen a post on the Facebook group about this case, it's one of those that you want to be true, and perhaps there was a grain of truth and it's been embellished a little (or a lot) this seems to happen in lots of paranormal stories, the truth may be worth a couple of short essays but there is a book to be filled

Wasn't Ken Webster a member on here at some point and answered some questions?

I wonder what he is up to nowadays it would be really good to have his input
 
Ken has been in touch with Scott and Forrest at Astonishing Legends. He’s republishing the book to stop the scalpers. He’s declined being interviewed, but has told the guys that he’ll answer any questions the listeners send in.
 
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Some renewed interest in this case:

The case of an allegedly haunted 1980s computer that started communicating with a teacher in archaic English has baffled paranormal investigators for over 35 years. Known as the Dodleston messages, they were a series of communications a teacher received on a BBC microcomputer in 1985. This was before the internet was commonplace and the computer was not connected to a

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/ghost-typing-1980s-computer-accuses-23427572

Perhaps because:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vertical-P...1648145919&sprefix=The+vertica,aps,163&sr=8-1

The Vertical Plane: The Mystery of the Dodleston Messages: Second Edition Paperback – 1 Feb. 2022​

 
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WeirdExeter said:
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Some renewed interest in this case:

The case of an allegedly haunted 1980s computer that started communicating with a teacher in archaic English has baffled paranormal investigators for over 35 years. Known as the Dodleston messages, they were a series of communications a teacher received on a BBC microcomputer in 1985. This was before the internet was commonplace and the computer was not connected to a

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/ghost-typing-1980s-computer-accuses-23427572

Perhaps because:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vertical-Plane-Mystery-Dodleston-Messages/dp/0955983150/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2FD9NGWUJC7BK&keywords=the+vertical+plane&qid=1648145919&sprefix=The+vertica,aps,163&sr=8-1

The Vertical Plane: The Mystery of the Dodleston Messages: Second Edition Paperback – 1 Feb. 2022​

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Does this devalue my 1st edition (see above)... Funnily enough I had no takers...
 
SimonBurchell said:
Does this devalue my 1st edition (see above)... Funnily enough I had no takers...
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It is a fascinating case, but the thorny issue of money and, some might argue, profiting from their experience. I challenge the Webster to give all profits from the new £14.99 to a charity so that they can be absolved of profiting from what they present as evidence for the supernatural and life after death
 
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My interest in Dodleston was re-stirred during yesterdays heat...I vaguely recalled one of the messages from 2109 saying something about living/feeding off a heat energy that we wouldn't recognise ...Do you think this is it? ;)

It does fascinate me that such an elaborate plot took place. If it is a fraud (and I don't really claim to know for sure either way - how could I) then they deserve kudos for creativity if nothing else. Home computers were in their infancy and the internet wasn't even a public domain thing. To come up with such a ruse is quite cunning.

If nothing else, a tale that borders time and space peeked the Whovian in me to pay attention :)
 
Just thought I would bump this up seen as it was mentioned in the time slips thread

I know people say it was obviously a fraudulent case and I tend to agree, however nobody has come up with how they pulled it off
 
Robbrent said:
Wasn't Ken Webster a member on here at some point and answered some questions?
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It reminds me a bit of a forumist here a few years back calling himself Kchoo.
He posted material claiming to be his personal encounters with aliens. It was to promote his books which, rather like Ken Webster's Vertical Plane, are also for sale on Amazon.
Kchoo disappeared after a couple of us noticed that he seemed to be recycling some Billy Meier material, notably about an alien calling herself Semjase.
 
blessmycottonsocks said:
It reminds me a bit of a forumist here a few years back calling himself Kchoo.
He posted material claiming to be his personal encounters with aliens. It was to promote his books which, rather like Ken Webster's Vertical Plane, are also for sale on Amazon.
Kchoo disappeared after a couple of us noticed that he seemed to be recycling some Billy Meier material, notably about an alien calling herself Semjase.
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I remember Kchoo. A wee bit... single minded, if I remember correctly.
 
Has anybody read a copy of the second edition of the Vertical Plane? On Amazon somebody says "this edition has interesting appendices and a little bit of a twist in the tail which perk the interest again." I enjoyed reading the original years ago and just wondered what the extra material and the "twist" might be...
 
OrsonSwells said:
Has anybody read a copy of the second edition of the Vertical Plane? On Amazon somebody says "this edition has interesting appendices and a little bit of a twist in the tail which perk the interest again." I enjoyed reading the original years ago and just wondered what the extra material and the "twist" might be...
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Apparently there is something in the revised edition in relation to Scott and Forrest from the Astonishing Legends podcast. I've just looked at the price on Amazon and it's quite pricy for a paperback.

In a strange bit of synchronicity, on Tuesday I was listening to the Astonishing Legends episode on Mantis Men as I was driving to Ruabon in Wales. Literally, as I was driving past Doddleston, The Vertical Plane was mentioned in a completely unrelated podcast.
 
Mr. Banooka said:
Apparently there is something in the revised edition in relation to Scott and Forrest from the Astonishing Legends podcast. I've just looked at the price on Amazon and it's quite pricy for a paperback.

In a strange bit of synchronicity, on Tuesday I was listening to the Astonishing Legends episode on Mantis Men as I was driving to Ruabon in Wales. Literally, as I was driving past Doddleston, The Vertical Plane was mentioned in a completely unrelated podcast.
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This reminds me of something I've read about, where there's an incident or phenomenon that spreads outwards like ripples
and seems to cause strangeness in people's lives.

Am I thinking of the Mothman? :thought:
 
Does anyone else have haunted tech?
My latest iPad keeps breaking out in you tube videos with songs from my earlier years.
Most recently it has been a combination of Roxy Music, Oh Yeah and Dusty Springfield with the Pet Shop boys, What have I done to deserve this.
Should I call an Exorcist?
 
Steven said:
I don't know.
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That definitely wins an award
 
I have previously noted that my iPhone, playing music whilst I potter around the kitchen, seems to play tunes from people who have just died. This may be more of a reflection of my aging musical tastes than anything else. The most notable occasion was when Davy Jones of the Monkeys shuffled off this mortal coil, and when I turned the music on it immediately began with Daydream Believer, and Davy Jones asking the rest of the gang what number it was. Even the In House GP remarked on how strange a coincidence it was. I have around 4 days' worth of music on my phone so it was a pretty striking coincidence that the tune shuffled straight to that one.
 
I mentioned a few weeks ago on here that some of the rug rats have been regularly whinging about me phoning them during the silly hours of the morning. Problem is I am soundo in bed and IPhone is elsewhere in the house.

As Bart Simpson says “It wasn’t me!”
 
Tempest63 said:
I mentioned a few weeks ago on here that some of the rug rats have been regularly whinging about me phoning them during the silly hours of the morning. Problem is I am soundo in bed and IPhone is elsewhere in the house.

As Bart Simpson says “It wasn’t me!”
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My iPhone has been up to its old tricks again with people questioning why I was ringing them in the early hours of the morning. It has been people I work with as well as the kids. This morning at about 03.30 me and Mrs T63 were woken by the ringing of her phone. She doesn’t usually have the phone in the bedroom but one of the dogs was being kept in at the vets last night so she kept the phone close in case they called. When she looked it was my phone calling. The same phone that was sitting on charge in the kitchen.
I don’t know if the phone is faulty or we have a ghost that has learned how to use the latest tech.
 
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More on this case:​


GARY ROWE - THE DODLESTON TIMEWARP​


"Gary was the investigator involved with The Vertical Plane which involved messages from the past and future on a BBC Micro Computer in 1984/1985. It`s the first time that Gary has talked about his involvment on any public platform or in public, we are very privileged that Gary granted us this interview."

 
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More on this case:​


GARY ROWE - THE DODLESTON TIMEWARP​


"Gary was the investigator involved with The Vertical Plane which involved messages from the past and future on a BBC Micro Computer in 1984/1985. It`s the first time that Gary has talked about his involvment on any public platform or in public, we are very privileged that Gary granted us this interview."

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And he doesn't entertain the possibility of a hoax.
Interesting.
I had filed away the Ken Webster story in the same BS bin as Tom Slemen material.
Perhaps I need to reassess?
What do you all think?
 
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blessmycottonsocks said:
And he doesn't entertain the possibility of a hoax.
Interesting.
I had filed away the Ken Webster story in the same BS bin as Tom Slemen material.
Perhaps I need to reassess?
What do you all think?
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I think this case is a hoax for the intention of making money from the book. If they had shared their experiences with a respected investigator such as Jenny Randles or the SPR then maybe I would be more openminded. This latest revelation suggests there will soon be another attempt to make money from this.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
I think this case is a hoax for the intention of making money from the book. If they had shared their experiences with a respected investigator such as Jenny Randles or the SPR then maybe I would be more openminded. This latest revelation suggests there will soon be another attempt to make money from this.
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My understanding is that they did go to the SPR but the SPR investigation was unsatisfactory.
 
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