Ghosts & Poltergeists: Obscure Cases

[EnolaGaia]

I'm not exactly a linguist, but I think there would be some kind of discernible structure to the sound of a real language that would be lacking in just gibberish. A more complex structure indicating grammar and word forms.

Such structural features (e.g., lexical consistency; syntactic coherence) can't be evaluated without a substantial corpus of spoken or written expression to analyze. Such substantial samples aren't typically available.

Another problem is that identifying words and assigning meanings requires finding connections between the spoken utterances and patterns or objects of reference. Episodes of glossolalia are often performed as if in a trance-like state, in which the speaker is basically passive and not behaving in a manner to indicate how uttered sounds might correlate with concepts or objects.

 

[escargot]

I'm not exactly a linguist, but I think there would be some kind of discernible structure to the sound of a real language that would be lacking in just gibberish. A more complex structure indicating grammar and word forms.

There has been research on it. Speakers make language sounds they already know (so no spontaneous Namibian click-language or Tuvan throat singing) but mix syllables up and repeat them as if speaking new words.

 

[lordmongrove]

The whistling ghost.

Have you seen a whistling ghost off the Acle Straight?​

26th May 2022

It was the coldest winter for 200 years, and three friends out shooting near the Acle Straight didn’t think their blood could be any chillier: until they heard an eerie whistle.

There, approaching them on the ice, was a figure, walking purposefully towards the rivulet that was the only element of Breydon Water left unfrozen.
And as he walked, he whistled.
Weird Norfolk received a letter from reader JB Howkins, who described an unsettling meeting in the early 1960s, when he and two friends were close to the Acle Straight.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/weird-...IBpNt2IG0C8Oy6k6yY0H4MK1jo36RImQO2SVRioKE_q6Y

 

[Paul_Exeter]

The whistling ghost.
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/weird-...IBpNt2IG0C8Oy6k6yY0H4MK1jo36RImQO2SVRioKE_q6Y

I do like Weird Norfolk, especially as I spent some time up there in 2004. The hotel owner I worked for was from a farming family and was adamant he had seen lynx cross the road in front of him on a nearby track. This was either an escapee from the local wildlife park (https://www.norfolkplaces.co.uk/remembering-norfolk-wildlife-park/) or drawn to the area because of the Eurasian lynx within the park. It is quite possibly the same lynx that needed up in a local gamekeeper's freezer:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4830320.stm

 

[lordmongrove]

The Haunting at Ferrestone Road​

 

[Who me]

Nice one lord mongrave not heard of that one before

 

[lordmongrove]

The Poltergeist of Lowther's Lane​

 

[Paul_Exeter]

The Haunting at Ferrestone Road​

More here, including a a video of an investigation (of sorts) in 1999:

https://hidden-highgate.org/8-ferrestone-road-hornsey-coal-ghost/

 

[lordmongrove]

The Demon of Fremont, part 1 [Podcast]:

Imagine there was an imposter in your house… It would be terrifying but at least you could call the police, and they could hopefully remove them. But what if the invader couldn’t be seen or heard by others…only you.

Even worse…what if this unwelcome guest utterly loathed you, and wanted nothing more than your death and destruction.

I'm Peter Laws, and tonight we hear of a distressing and little known haunting case from California, 1996. Where a house is not merely haunted by a spirit…it is harassed and terrorised by a malevolent force.

This is Frightful...and The Demon of Fremont, Part 1

https://www.itsfrightful.org/30-the-demon-of-fremont-part-1/

 

[lordmongrove]

Th Demon of Fremont part 2 [Podcast]:

Imagine there was an imposter in your house… It would be terrifying but at least you could call the police, and they could hopefully remove them. But what if the invader couldn’t be seen or heard by others…only you.

Even worse…what if this unwelcome guest utterly loathed you, and wanted nothing more than your death and destruction.

I'm Peter Laws, and tonight we hear of a distressing and little known haunting case from California, 1996. Where a house is not merely haunted by a spirit…it is harassed and terrorised by a malevolent force.

This is Frightful...and The Demon of Fremont (PART 2)

https://www.itsfrightful.org/31-the-demon-of-fremont-part-2/

 

[lordmongrove]

The Haunting of Buckingham Terrace.

 

[brownmane]

The Haunting of Buckingham Terrace.

That's a good story. At first, I was thinking sleep paralysis episodes until her daughter experienced it.

The physical description given of the figure was very interesting in that she saw it so clearly. And then to have people corroborate it with a person they knew to have lived there. Wonderful.

I suspected an intruder/squatter and was disappointed that no one looked closer at the flat.

 

[lordmongrove]

That's a good story. At first, I was thinking sleep paralysis episodes until her daughter experienced it.

The physical description given of the figure was very interesting in that she saw it so clearly. And then to have people corroborate it with a person they knew to have lived there. Wonderful.

I suspected an intruder/squatter and was disappointed that no one looked closer at the flat.

Elliot O'Donnell mentions it in Scottish Ghosts but other than that nobody seems to have looked onto it.

 

[gordonrutter]

Elliot O'Donnell mentions it in Scottish Ghosts but other than that nobody seems to have looked onto it.

It's mentioned in Paranormal Edinburgh by erm Gordon Rutter and in North Edinburgh Nightmares by John Tantalon. There is no indication of which house in Buckingham Terrace it is and I think there are no details about a family of that name living there or indeed the murder of a baby. I've discussed the case with Alan Murdie and he has not come across any other details either.
And as a postscript I have been in one of the upper flats in the street...

 

[Eponastill]

When you read Elliot O'Donnell you do get a sense that he had a Good Imagination.

 

[lordmongrove]

WEIRD NORFOLK: The local shoe shop haunted by a 'one-legged poltergeist'​

Flickering lights, radios and lights switching themselves on and off, impossible footprints and spectral snatching…something very strange was happening at Continental Shoe Repairs

For today’s tale, and as Weird Norfolk is enjoying its dark summer holiday, we step just outside the county border to Wisbech, just a mile or two west from the Norfolk border.
It was December 1963 – long before films such as The Exorcist and Poltergeist popularised mischievous or demonic earth-bound spirits – but the boundary between the known and the unknown was thin on Wisbech High Street.
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A hopping poltergeist in a Norfolk shoe repair shop. A load of cobblers?
https://www.edp24.co.uk/lifestyle/2...cIxU_vOTs3LZzuYGm6Eih4cMpc47hOi1y4HYxNLSXk_P0

 

[hunck]

WEIRD NORFOLK: The local shoe shop haunted by a 'one-legged poltergeist'​

Flickering lights, radios and lights switching themselves on and off, impossible footprints and spectral snatching…something very strange was happening at Continental Shoe Repairs

For today’s tale, and as Weird Norfolk is enjoying its dark summer holiday, we step just outside the county border to Wisbech, just a mile or two west from the Norfolk border.
It was December 1963 – long before films such as The Exorcist and Poltergeist popularised mischievous or demonic earth-bound spirits – but the boundary between the known and the unknown was thin on Wisbech High Street.
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A hopping poltergeist in a Norfolk shoe repair shop. A load of cobblers?
https://www.edp24.co.uk/lifestyle/2...cIxU_vOTs3LZzuYGm6Eih4cMpc47hOi1y4HYxNLSXk_P0

Almost certainly.

 

[lordmongrove]

The Haunting of the Manilla Film Centre
An appalling story of worker exploitation and death at the hands of the rich and powerful and the haunting that followed.

 

[Robbrent]

There must one or two cases happening nowadays? Considering the ingredients of a case are quite common throughout the world, wouldn't it be good if we had an Enfield or Pontefract case now, think of the potential for actually getting somewhere with this mystery