- Aug 9, 2001
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Three of the largest ports in Europe – Rotterdam, Antwerp and Ghent – are to be used to capture and bury 10m tonnes of CO2 emissions under the North Sea in what will be the biggest project of its kind in the world.
The ports, which account for one-third of the total greenhouse gas emissions from the Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg region, would be used to pipe the gas into vast cavities about two miles (3km) below the seabed.
It is hoped the project could be completed by 2030 but the scale of the storage, in two empty gas fields, is unprecedented and raises questions about how the CO2 will affect the deep subsurface, according to the Dutch government.
Scientists in Belgium and the Netherlands have largely welcomed the plans.
Prof Mark Saeys of Ghent University told De Morgen newspaper: “Of course I would prefer to see investments in renewable energy, but you have to be realistic: as long as we as a society remain dependent on fossil fuels, underground CO2 storage may be a crucial lever for achieving our climate targets.”
The world’s first large-scale carbon storage project was developed in 1996 off the Norwegian coast, injecting nearly 1m tonnes a year into a space 800 to 1,100 metres beneath the seabed.
But the development of carbon capture and storage has been stilted in Europe. In 2009, the European commission committed €1bn to finance six pilot projects with the hope of having 12 schemes up and running by 2015. Due to the high costs, none of the projects were developed.
More than 70% of the 30m tons of CO2 captured annually by facilities for use or storage is captured in North America.
The largest initiative in the world to date is the Petra Nova project in Texas, which was launched in 2017 and is attached to a coal-fired power station. It has an annual capture capacity of 1.4m tonnes of CO2, the equivalent of the emissions produced by 350,000 cars. The pipeline planned for the European ports project, known as Porthos, would have the capacity to transport 5m tonnes of CO2 a year.
Pointless then, as the UN - - tells us that we’ll have reached (yet another) irreversible tipping point by 2030.It is hoped the project could be completed by 2030.
Maybe Graham Hancock is right about the advanced ancient civilisations!Pointless then, as the UN - - tells us that we’ll have reached (yet another) irreversible tipping point by 2030.
I was just reading this very morning about how abrupt climate change 8,000 years ago led to a dramatic decline in the population of South America. If only they’d given up cars and jet travel and buried their CO2 under the sea, eh?
That's a pretty sketchy report. It says there was population decline but doesn't give any details as to how much. It says
So nothing very drastic it would seem. It points to rainfall being the driver, with drier weather in some areas affecting crop yields, hence population centres being abandoned, & nothing to do with CO2 increasing.
I dunno - I've read stories about oilfields refilling but don't know if it's actually been shown to be true, or true in the 'empty' fields they're talking about. Maybe you know more than them.As far as I know they're not empty.
Wanna bring down global temperatures? Ground all passenger planes for two years. Instant cooling.CO2...0.0406% of the atmosphere.
Oxygen...20.95% of the atmosphere
Nitrogen...78.09% of the atmosphere
Water Vapour...0.4% of the atmosphere.
What is all the fuss about?
Nah: How else would Dame Emma Thompson - net worth $50,000,000 - be able to buy an £18,000 ticket to fly from America to Britain, in order to lecture me on that SqueezyJet flight to Italy I took two years ago? She would have to forego the beef carpaccio washed down with Laurent Perrier champagne that she enjoyed on the flight, before haranguing us about going veggie to save the planet.Wanna bring down global temperatures? Ground all passenger planes for two years. Instant cooling.
Yes, it's interesting that such people never get the irony or understand the hypocrisy.Nah: How else would Dame Emma Thompson - net worth $50,000,000 - be able to buy an £18,000 ticket to fly from America to Britain, in order to lecture me on that SqueezyJet flight to Italy I took two years ago? She would have to forego the beef carpaccio washed down with Laurent Perrier champagne that she enjoyed on the flight, before haranguing us about going veggie to save the planet.
I'm surprised they didn't find some glitter down there.
This is an extremely interesting question, and one that deserves to be framed from the point of view of a curious layman who knows that highly trained scientists with masses of data are likely to know better than him rather than that of a small minded man sitting in an armchair pontificating at the TV.l remember years ago seeing some Beeboid in Greenland, pontificating about a glacier having receded so far that the ruins of a Viking-era farm had been exposed, and how Global Warming was going to kill us all
in ten fifteen twenty yearsbefore long, mark my words!
The only point he didn’t cover was why the glacier had retreated so far 1,200 years ago that the Vikings had been able to build a farm there in the first place.