Gnomes In Little Red Cars? (Wollaton Park Gnomes; 1979)

BS3 said:
Given all the discussion around the potential influence of Noddy upon the "gnome" imagery here, it's interesting to remember that neither Noddy nor Big Ears were actually gnomes (the latter was a "brownie", while Noddy was a toy).
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This is true but Big Ears did look very similar to the kind of garden gnomes with which people are familiar.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
I think there is another one, too. Its seems that since the end of the Cold War and turn of the century those close encounters with landed UFOs (CE2) and also landed UFOs with humanoids (CE4) have dried up. In the past we had classic cases that involved adults and their children witnessing such things but nowadays I can't even find any CE2/CE3 cases in the murkier, Tic-tac UAP and Disclosure obsessed corners of the internet. There was the Phear Park case in 2010 (Exmouth) but very little else, just lots of CE1 'lights in the sky' reports.

Why I have no idea, but I suppose there is a strong argument that many such UFO reports were actually NATO aircraft seen in unusual circumstances/poor visibility. Or is the phenomena now manifesting in a different way, such as large, sleek big black cats and werewolves on Cannock Chase etc?

But there is no doubt that the paucity of CE2/CE3 reports has left a bit of a hole.
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In my country, the cases of landings and appearances of humanoids supposedly linked to objects called extraterrestrials began in the late 1950s until the 1970s. Later the reports about anomalous entities were mutated towards creatures of folklore such as werewolves, goblins, gnomes. and starting in the 90s, predators and mutilators of animals of unknown origin began to emerge. I find a parallel with the appearances of "aliens" during the period of space exploration and the rise of science fiction related to outer space.Later, after the loss of general interest in this topic, the alleged extraterrestrials and landings began to decrease abruptly. Later there were four types of reports,1- The so-called bedroom visitors or abductions, of not always extraterrestrial origin according to the statements. 2-Creatures of regional folklore and European influence3-Marian apparitions 4-Unknown predators​
 
Fabio Picasso said:
In my country, the cases of landings and appearances of humanoids supposedly linked to objects called extraterrestrials began in the late 1950s until the 1970s. Later the reports about anomalous entities were mutated towards creatures of folklore such as werewolves, goblins, gnomes. and starting in the 90s, predators and mutilators of animals of unknown origin began to emerge. I find a parallel with the appearances of "aliens" during the period of space exploration and the rise of science fiction related to outer space.Later, after the loss of general interest in this topic, the alleged extraterrestrials and landings began to decrease abruptly. Later there were four types of reports,1- The so-called bedroom visitors or abductions, of not always extraterrestrial origin according to the statements. 2-Creatures of regional folklore and European influence3-Marian apparitions 4-Unknown predators​
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Great post. This also seems to have been the case in the UK. My nephew was born in 2000 and had no interest in UFOs but as a fourteen-year-old believed actual zombies existed "in other parts of the world", no doubt influenced by the resurgence of zombie movies and literature ("28 Days Later etc).

The big question is: does an "intelligent other" adapt to manifest as contemporary sci-fi, or when confronted by something utterly alien do our brains search for mental images to try to rationalise what we are seeing? Then there is also UFOs foreshadowing human advancement; that is, airship UFOs before human airships, 'ghost rockets', UFOs sitting on legs like a lunar lander and then taking off with a blast of flame etc. The more I see of drones with their flashing coloured lights and ability to hover and accelerate so quickly from a 'standing' start, the more I am reminded of 20th Century UFOs. Is this anther example of UFOs foreshadowing drones that are now changing the face of modern warfare and might soon to be zipping around our skies with Amazon deliveries...?
 
Paul_Exeter said:
My nephew was born in 2000 and had no interest in UFOs but as a fourteen-year-old believed actual zombies existed "in other parts of the world", no doubt influenced by the resurgence of zombie movies and literature ("28 Days Later etc).
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You've just reminded me! My youngest daughter (b 1996) used to be terrified of foxes. We live in the middle of the countryside, foxes are a regular thing - more talked about than sighted, although occasionally someone will say 'ooh, there's a fox!' as a dog fox slinks away across a field. We always had to lock the chickens up too, because of the threat of foxes.

Daughter was scared to the point of making sure her bedroom door was always closed 'so foxes can't get in.' She will have been about seven or eight when I took her to a wildlife place that looked after foxes and she met one face to face.

Turned out she'd been confusing foxes with wolves. She thought foxes were bigger than our dog (who was fairly sizeable).
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Great post. This also seems to have been the case in the UK. My nephew was born in 2000 and had no interest in UFOs but as a fourteen-year-old believed actual zombies existed "in other parts of the world", no doubt influenced by the resurgence of zombie movies and literature ("28 Days Later etc).

The big question is: does an "intelligent other" adapt to manifest as contemporary sci-fi, or when confronted by something utterly alien do our brains search for mental images to try to rationalise what we are seeing? Then there is also UFOs foreshadowing human advancement; that is, airship UFOs before human airships, 'ghost rockets', UFOs sitting on legs like a lunar lander and then taking off with a blast of flame etc. The more I see of drones with their flashing coloured lights and ability to hover and accelerate so quickly from a 'standing' start, the more I am reminded of 20th Century UFOs. Is this anther example of UFOs foreshadowing drones that are now changing the face of modern warfare and might soon to be zipping around our skies with Amazon deliveries...?
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What is striking about the sequence of stages in anomalous events is that they coincide between two cultures completely separated in time and development. This fact is something that draws a lot of attention. Imagine that many of the events that I have investigated in my country were in rural areas, very far from large cities and without links to what happened in the northern hemisphere.
Observations of anomalous phenomena that precede future technology are very evident. This fact is very curious because the difference in technological advances between your country and mine means that if in both places the events are similar, in the less developed country the anticipation is much more evident.
The so-called ghost rockets of Scandinavia in the 1940s were called "bolides" here, but the behaviors were very similar.
There are certain images such as UFOs, Bigfoot type creatures, goblins, shape-shifters that regardless of culture and regions are similar. This probably has to be linked either to a phenomenon that "creates", so to speak, a sequence of events or to somewhere in the collective human mind there are reminiscences of very old episodes that, when faced with a stimulus, arise again.​
 
Fabio Picasso said:
What is striking about the sequence of stages in anomalous events is that they coincide between two cultures completely separated in time and development. This fact is something that draws a lot of attention. Imagine that many of the events that I have investigated in my country were in rural areas, very far from large cities and without links to what happened in the northern hemisphere.
Observations of anomalous phenomena that precede future technology are very evident. This fact is very curious because the difference in technological advances between your country and mine means that if in both places the events are similar, in the less developed country the anticipation is much more evident.
The so-called ghost rockets of Scandinavia in the 1940s were called "bolides" here, but the behaviors were very similar.
There are certain images such as UFOs, Bigfoot type creatures, goblins, shape-shifters that regardless of culture and regions are similar. This probably has to be linked either to a phenomenon that "creates", so to speak, a sequence of events or to somewhere in the collective human mind there are reminiscences of very old episodes that, when faced with a stimulus, arise again.​
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There are a lot of 1980s-style UFO reports coming out of Latin America in the 21st century (there is a blog called something like 'inexplicita' but can't find it just now).

Also, back in the 40s - 70s the UK was much more on a par with the US and as well as nuclear power, nuclear weapons, our own space launch vehicle (Blue Streak), the jet engine and VTOL technology we also invented the internet, discovered DNA and built a supersonic passenger aircraft with our neighbours.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
There are a lot of 1980s-style UFO reports coming out of Latin America in the 21st century (there is a blog called something like 'inexplicita' but can't find it just now).

Also, back in the 40s - 70s the UK was much more on a par with the US and as well as nuclear power, nuclear weapons, our own space launch vehicle (Blue Streak), the jet engine and VTOL technology we also invented the internet, discovered DNA and built a supersonic passenger aircraft with our neighbours.
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https://inexplicata.blogspot.com/2023/09/argentina-incredible-images-that.html

I have to differentiate the specific pages on ufology from the large number of episodes that flooded the media, books, magazines, conferences of the 70s. There are current cases but in comparison to the cases of the 60s and 70s they are tiny. Until the year 2000, I have registered about 400 cases of presence of humanoid beings in Argentina. In 1968 there was a wave of observations in Argentina and Chile that exceeded 200 cases.​
 
Fabio Picasso said:
What is striking about the sequence of stages in anomalous events is that they coincide between two cultures completely separated in time and development. This fact is something that draws a lot of attention. Imagine that many of the events that I have investigated in my country were in rural areas, very far from large cities and without links to what happened in the northern hemisphere.
Observations of anomalous phenomena that precede future technology are very evident. This fact is very curious because the difference in technological advances between your country and mine means that if in both places the events are similar, in the less developed country the anticipation is much more evident.
The so-called ghost rockets of Scandinavia in the 1940s were called "bolides" here, but the behaviors were very similar.
There are certain images such as UFOs, Bigfoot type creatures, goblins, shape-shifters that regardless of culture and regions are similar. This probably has to be linked either to a phenomenon that "creates", so to speak, a sequence of events or to somewhere in the collective human mind there are reminiscences of very old episodes that, when faced with a stimulus, arise again.​
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Likewise the cross-culture/religion/age/experience event that is sleep paralysis. There are outliers, but so many of these experiences (feeling of dread, something evil in the room, pressure on chest, being moved out of the bed etc) are ubiquitous.

The human mind clearly has a series of archetypes hardwired in.
 
catseye said:
Likewise the cross-culture/religion/age/experience event that is sleep paralysis. There are outliers, but so many of these experiences (feeling of dread, something evil in the room, pressure on chest, being moved out of the bed etc) are ubiquitous.

The human mind clearly has a series of archetypes hardwired in.
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What you say is probably much more linked to the paraphysical than to extraterrestrial phenomena or conspiracies.
 
eburacum said:
I've had a sleep-paralysis episode that included an (apparent) extraterrestrial presence, so I can confirm that (apparent) extraterrestrial phenomena and sleep paralysis are linked. It is all a matter of subjective interpretation of endogenous stimuli.
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What would be the stereotype of an extraterrestrial presence?
 
catseye said:
I think for most of us the big-headed, grey skinned being, stretching out its arms to 'take you away'.
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Well, from my studies on almost 400 cases of humanoid entities in Argentina, that image of an extraterrestrial appears in very little proportion. I believe that the description of what an alien would be depends on the geography and the type of knowledge of the witnesses.
 
Fabio Picasso said:
Well, from my studies on almost 400 cases of humanoid entities in Argentina, that image of an extraterrestrial appears in very little proportion. I believe that the description of what an alien would be depends on the geography and the type of knowledge of the witnesses.
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Argentina? One of the finest UFO documentaries ever made:

An intimate documentary that intends to unveil the mystery of a spectacular close encounter case witnessed by a lonely gaucho.

"Juan lives a solitary existence on a remote farm ever since he witnessed a UFO event. Filmmaker Alan Stivelman -together with the help of famous astrophysicist Jacques Vallée- begin an epic journey to help Juan in understanding the deep meaning of his close encounter. This true story shows the long-term consequences of close encounters, proving that no one is exempt from a potential contact."

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7027162/?ref_=ext_shr_em
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Argentina? One of the finest UFO documentaries ever made:

An intimate documentary that intends to unveil the mystery of a spectacular close encounter case witnessed by a lonely gaucho.

"Juan lives a solitary existence on a remote farm ever since he witnessed a UFO event. Filmmaker Alan Stivelman -together with the help of famous astrophysicist Jacques Vallée- begin an epic journey to help Juan in understanding the deep meaning of his close encounter. This true story shows the long-term consequences of close encounters, proving that no one is exempt from a potential contact."

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7027162/?ref_=ext_shr_em
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The original investigation of this case was published in the magazine Cuarta Dimension, in 1981 under the sensational title of An Extraterrestrial Laboratory for the Mutilation of Cattle.
Obviously it had great significance when Dr. Vallee published it in Confrontations but at that time there were events as strange or even more strange than what happened in Venado Tuerto and that motivated the film you mention. A few days after this case, two Chilean rally drivers participating in a competition in Argentina were suddenly teleported by a UFO and traveled a section at a higher speed than they could achieve with the vehicle. Also in 1978 two children were attacked in Palpala, by a creature with hands like crab claws, a case published at the time in an article of mine in Strange Magazine. Also the case in the La Florida Dam, San Luis, when fishermen were greeted by a being that descended from a luminous object on the water's edge. It led to a deep police investigation.​
 
Fabio Picasso said:
Also in 1978 two children were attacked in Palpala, by a creature with hands like crab claws, a case published at the time in an article of mine in Strange Magazine. Also the case in the La Florida Dam, San Luis, when fishermen were greeted by a being that descended from a luminous object on the water's edge. It led to a deep police investigation.​
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The beings in the 1973 Pascagoula abduction incident also had crab claws.
 
Erinaceus said:
The beings in the 1973 Pascagoula abduction incident also had crab claws.
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I remember perfectly the case of Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker who claimed they were abducted that year in Pascagoula.
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Top Hatted Man​

Location: Gedling (Nottinghamshire) - Private residence, Wollaton Avenue
Type: Haunting Manifestation
Date / Time: December 1986 - February 1987
Further Comments: A family threatened to leave their home after experiencing the disembodied crying of a child and spotting strange shadows moving around, including one of a man in a top hat moving down the staircase. A clergyman blessed the site, although the family reported that the visit had only made the strangeness worse.

https://www.paranormaldatabase.com/recent/index.php

More evidence that this is some sort of window area?
 
Paul_Exeter said:

Top Hatted Man​

Location: Gedling (Nottinghamshire) - Private residence, Wollaton Avenue
Type: Haunting Manifestation
Date / Time: December 1986 - February 1987
Further Comments: A family threatened to leave their home after experiencing the disembodied crying of a child and spotting strange shadows moving around, including one of a man in a top hat moving down the staircase. A clergyman blessed the site, although the family reported that the visit had only made the strangeness worse.

https://www.paranormaldatabase.com/recent/index.php

More evidence that this is some sort of window area?
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This bit:

spotting strange shadows moving around
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Reminds me a little of Frank Earp's childhood experience with "Charlie" mentioned earlier in the thread
 
Paul_Exeter said:

Top Hatted Man​

Location: Gedling (Nottinghamshire) - Private residence, Wollaton Avenue
Type: Haunting Manifestation
Date / Time: December 1986 - February 1987
Further Comments: A family threatened to leave their home after experiencing the disembodied crying of a child and spotting strange shadows moving around, including one of a man in a top hat moving down the staircase. A clergyman blessed the site, although the family reported that the visit had only made the strangeness worse.

https://www.paranormaldatabase.com/recent/index.php

More evidence that this is some sort of window area?
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It reminds me of a case I investigated in my country in which a girl woke up during the night to go to the bathroom and saw sitting in a chair in the yard an extremely tall and thin man with a top hat dressed entirely in black.
The event took place in the 90s in a house in Buenos Aires
 
Yes, back to the gnomes, and to reports of shadow-like figures in the immediate area.

So here's the gist of Frank Earp's childhood stories of haunting at a house on Woodyard Lane, Wollaton:

Go to sleep early tonight” he would say, “Charlie is walking”. These nocturnal ramblings seem to have been limited to three to four occasions a year one of which was around three nights before Christmas.

The focus of the activity seemed to be the hall and stairs and the front bedroom. Things began with the sound of slow footsteps on the stairs, – ‘like someone in carpet—slippers’ witnesses would say, – and the sound of a hand rubbing on the wall.

The noise would reach the top of the stairs and there was a pause, and then, from the door an intense black, formless shadow would enter the room. Slowly, this would spread and the air became oppressive. As it reached the bed witnesses say that you could not avert your eyes and it felt as if a great weight was pushing down upon your body, making it impossible to move. If the candle was lit on the bedside table, as the darkness passed over, it would splutter and the flame would ‘burn low’.
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https://nottinghamhiddenhistoryteam.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/hauntings-from-wollaton/
 
Wonder if there are old mine workings under this area?

A major UFO sighting from Nottingham mentions the two objects heading towards Wollaton:

April 2002
Nottingham's biggest UFO case: Witness statements

He looked at them through binoculars. They slowly, without deviating in any way and keeping the same distance apart, crossed the sky towards Wollaton.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/spotlight/2002/04/ufo_nottingham_part2.shtml
 
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Colliery at Wollaton in the 1960s - the mist seen as part of the 'boggart' experience rose from the canal basin shown here.

This is not far from the gates of the Wollaton Hall Estate, accessed by a road over the canal called the "Old Coach Road" (one for Rainford Humanoid fans).
 
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