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Ageing & Growing Old

Are you growing older?

  • Yes, I am

    Votes: 82 61.7%
  • No, I'm getting younger

    Votes: 28 21.1%
  • Sorry, I don't understand the question

    Votes: 16 12.0%
  • I'm a Mod; I think adding silly polls to chat threads is pointless

    Votes: 7 5.3%

  • Total voters
    133
I tell the GP 'I've a few issues so I brought a list, would you like to see it?' and he takes it and it unwinds like a toilet roll, right down to the floor.

Oh Madam Snail, the amount of times my in-house GP has come home fuming about the people who are booked in for a ten-minute consultation, spend seven minutes discussing the one small thing and then say, "By the way, I've also noticed...", going on to describe something which sounds much more serious. And quite often there will be another five things on their mental list after that as well.

But he's a nice man, he sorts it all out.
 
My wife got one of them when she retired.

She dressed as an old lady on her leaving do. In one pub a lesbian lady took a shine to her and asked if she could put my wife on her shoulders. As you do when you take a shine to someone.
Some care-home colleagues of mine went on a pub crawl dressed as awld ladies. Each had a spirits-filled catheter bag strapped to a thigh. When bar service was slow they'd hitch up the frock and pour their own!
 
Was in town yesterday and naturally wearing a facemask, which is the typical supermarket blue & white variety.

I suddenly realised my own was different from everyone else.

Theirs was blue and mine was white.

I've been wearing it the wrong way around for months.

The ear-loops are on the blue side, how was I supposed to know.

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A realisation now is how many people during all that time thought, 'Would you look at this...'. :points:
There isn't really a right side for non medical masks. Believe me, when I have to don one at 7 in the morning at work, I'm lucky if I can see straight to get the blue side out.

The two colours are so if you take your mask off for any reason, you don't get the contaminated side ie outside cover to your face.
 
A woman (and WW2 veteran) made her first skydiving jump at the age of 102.
Maryland woman goes skydiving for the first time at 102

A Maryland woman fulfilled a longtime dream by going skydiving for the first time in her life at the age of 102.

Vivian "Millie" Bailey, 102, a World War II veteran being featured on the American Heroes Channel's Honor Flight Heroes, was asked by producers if there was a bucket list item she had never crossed off. ...

Bailey's answer was that she had been thinking for a long time about skydiving. She said she was inspired by President George H.W. Bush going skydiving when he was 90 years old.

"I was inspired by the fact that he did it," Bailey told WJLA-TV. "The fact that a person at that age could do the jump." ...

Bailey said after her jump that it was exhilarating.

"It was wonderful, a real thrill," she said. "I was scared for one minute, it felt like I was tumbling and then I thought, somebody is holding onto me."

SOURCE: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2020/1...ving-for-the-first-time-at-102/5461603133283/
 
Maybe "getting old" occurs earlier than most people think ...

Newly published research from Norway indicates a person's "get up and go" - motivated drive toward achievement - dissipates at around age 54.
Get up and go: is 54 really the age we lose our passion for life?

You need a combination of passion and grit to maintain a positive mindset. But a Norwegian study has found that by the time we reach our mid-50s we don’t seem to possess both ...

Who says? A Norwegian study published in New Ideas in Psychology, that has examined the relation between passion, “grit” and a positive mindset across a lifespan.

And what did it find? That the correlation between grit and passion were strong between the ages of 17 and 53, but in the 54 to 69 group the correlation was “trivial”.

... What does it mean for the over-50s? “What this means is that it is more difficult to mobilise our grit and willpower, even if we have the passion,” said the study’s lead author Prof Hermundur Sigmundsson, of the Department of Psychology at Norwegian University of Science and Technology. “Or we may have the grit and willpower, but aren’t quite as fired up about it.” ...

FULL STORY:
https://www.theguardian.com/science...4-really-the-age-we-lose-our-passion-for-life

PUBLISHED ARTICLE:
Passion, grit and mindset in the ages 14 to 77: Exploring relationship and gender differences
HermundurSigmundsson
New Ideas in Psychology
Volume 60, January 2021, 100815
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.newideapsych.2020.100815

Full Article Accessible At:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0732118X20301240?via=ihub
 
Maybe "getting old" occurs earlier than most people think ...

Newly published research from Norway indicates a person's "get up and go" - motivated drive toward achievement - dissipates at around age 54.


FULL STORY:
https://www.theguardian.com/science...4-really-the-age-we-lose-our-passion-for-life

PUBLISHED ARTICLE:
Passion, grit and mindset in the ages 14 to 77: Exploring relationship and gender differences
HermundurSigmundsson
New Ideas in Psychology
Volume 60, January 2021, 100815
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.newideapsych.2020.100815

Full Article Accessible At:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0732118X20301240?via=ihub
I'm pretty sure my get up and go got up and went decades ago.
 
Well that’s all over. I’m being targeted by ads for over 50s dating, equity release, hearing aids, funeral plans with lots of new coffins to browse, cruises, walk-in baths, stair lifts and will donations. On that last one, you really know you’re old when they’re not asking for your organs - just the cash thanks.
 
You're not alone, Analogue Boy! Some algorithm has figured out that I'm in my fifties, so I get endless ads for funeral and cremation services. What makes it worse is that I live opposite the local crematorium so I can watch the hearses come and go. Back in march I had a heart attack (fully recovered now) so all the death-related ads do little for my morale!
 
This Iowa nursing home came up with a new way to lift residents' spirits during this grim pandemic year - booze and tattoos.

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‘Booze N’ Tattoos’ just one way Marengo nursing home keeps spirits high during pandemic

It took moving to Rose Haven Nursing Home in Marengo for Wayne Schwarting to get his first tattoo — and then his second.

Schwarting showed them off during a Zoom call Wednesday, flexing both of his biceps to reveal a small gun tattooed inside each arm.

“Gotta have fun once in a while!” he said.

Schwarting inked up last week during Rose Haven’s “Booze N' Tattoos” event, in which masked staff applied temporary tattoos and handed out drinks, of both the alcoholic and non-alcoholic varieties, to socially-distanced residents. ...

FULL STORY: https://www.kcrg.com/2020/10/30/boo...sing-home-keeps-spirits-high-during-pandemic/
 
Halloween - chavs up the road binge drinking and fireworks.
Bonfire Fortnight - chavs up the road binge drinking and fireworks.
Christmas Eve -chavs up the road binge drinking and fireworks.
New Year's Eve - chavs up the road binge drinking and fireworks.
4th July - why do people feel the need to inflict their festive spirit on old folk ?
 
When you have just refilled your pill box assortment for the next 14 days, separately sorted out various, prescribed, mineral supplement sachets, glance at the clock and realise two hours have elapsed since you started.

When you reflect on last night's shopping at TESCO and problems with contactless payment not working. You can still hear the kind lady cashier... "Excuse me sir, I think that's your bus pass...".

When you further reflect on telephone conversation with little granddaughter last night. I have set up an entirely separate Google Playstore payment account she can use to purchase occasional items for online games.

Current favourite is Toca Boca. It's a brilliant kids, 'build your own virtual world' app, where interaction is with the game's inbuilt characters, not someone else (who of course could be anyone) logged on as another player, a la Roblox.

So, we went through the procedure and as I knew she had been at a friend's house after school, being picked up later, I wondered if she was now back home. Her friend stays nearby the local, small shop.

'So, where are you now?', I enquired.

'I'm in the shop'...

'Why are you in the shop this late, it's dark outside and you should be home long before now. Who's with you?'...

'No Grampa!!!' I'm inside the shop in Toca Boca deciding what to buy.

Just increasingly feel I'm losing touch with... 'things'.

Also realised I was still wearing my facemask around the house and had been for a while, after I got back home...
 
Maybe "getting old" occurs earlier than most people think ...

Newly published research from Norway indicates a person's "get up and go" - motivated drive toward achievement - dissipates at around age 54.


FULL STORY:
https://www.theguardian.com/science...4-really-the-age-we-lose-our-passion-for-life

PUBLISHED ARTICLE:
Passion, grit and mindset in the ages 14 to 77: Exploring relationship and gender differences
HermundurSigmundsson
New Ideas in Psychology
Volume 60, January 2021, 100815
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.newideapsych.2020.100815

Full Article Accessible At:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0732118X20301240?via=ihub

I just turned 54 on Saturday so I can't say I'm pleased to learn that news.
 
I don’t think that the comments included in the article section 5.1.2:
”These findings may show us the importance of still have some meaningful area/theme/skill you are interested in and want to engage in i.e. find and develop the direction of the arrow when becoming older (Sigmundsson et al., 2020a). Rousseau and Vallerand (2008) pointed out in this respect that older adults who remain active experience greater life satisfaction and subjective well-being (p.196)”,
are necessarily saying that getting old occurs earlier than people think. To me, it is showing that continuing to find things that interest you, even as you age, is beneficial to your overall well-being.

I am ignorant of how to interpret statistics, so much of the statistical numbers mean nothing to me; however I do question that, of 917 participants, ranging in ages from 14-77, the average age was 26.15-26.54 years depending on how the data was broken down. That, to me, indicates that the majority of the participants were younger, thus skewing the data when trying to interpret it in comparison to older (54-77 yrs) adults.
 
I don’t think that the comments included in the article section 5.1.2 ... are necessarily saying that getting old occurs earlier than people think. To me, it is showing that continuing to find things that interest you, even as you age, is beneficial to your overall well-being.

That (concluding) section confused me, too. My interpretation of the author's intended point is that the combination of 'passion' and 'grit' (his terminology, defined on his terms) weakens or falls apart at around age 54. Up until that point (more or less) it's the effect of having both these factors operating in tandem that (somehow ... ) supports subjective feelings of satisfaction (i.e., 'lust for life'). The section you cited states how statistically people in the 54+ category most often exhibit (i.e., self-report) one of these two key factors to a significantly greater extent than the other or to only a weak extent for both. In other words, it seems the tandem pairing of these factors fades or falls apart around age 54.

Like I said, that's just the best interpretation I could come up with ... Being a person who's historically been described as exhibiting both these factors, I can resonate with his contextualization up to a point. I say 'up to a point' because I'm not sure I completely agree with the way he frames and defines the factors and their interrelationship.


I am ignorant of how to interpret statistics, so much of the statistical numbers mean nothing to me; however I do question that, of 917 participants, ranging in ages from 14-77, the average age was 26.15-26.54 years depending on how the data was broken down. That, to me, indicates that the majority of the participants were younger, thus skewing the data when trying to interpret it in comparison to older (54-77 yrs) adults.

That average was based on the subject population as a whole - a population in which the number of subjects in one age group (Group 2; age 20-36) represented almost 72% of the overall population.

However, the study's analyses and comparisons were performed group-by-group rather than overall. The mean age for the population as a whole isn't really relevant to the results subdivided and framed in a groupwise manner. In other words, there's essentially no basis for claiming the overall average age had any skewing effect on the groups into which that population was broken down.

Still, I'd have preferred to see a better degree of equivalence among the size of all 5 age groups.
 
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The hours I wasted on this bloody game on the Amiga 500...
When I upgraded to the Amiga 500, there was only one sports game in town.

Mates would stay at my house all weekend playing this and once you got into a tournament, sleep had no place!

Still, I believe, the most innovative computer sports game invented.

The following link features actual game play and... damn, do I wish for a match right now!


That was... what year? I'm guessing 1980s.

Looked it up and... 1990!

So... we would all have been playing this in our late 20s/early 30s...

Bloody 'ell! Never realised that!

Right enough, beginning of 1990, I opened a small computer shop, specialising in the Amiga.

I kept for myself, copies of best games released during that time.

I have boxes of same, most of which have never seen daylight since.

I still have an Amiga 500, Amiga monitor and a variety of unopened joysticks.

And I just wonder...

Will take a look.... see what else is there.

Incidentally, was sure I been here before, just checked and... :)

https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/the-trolls-head.60983/post-1858148
 
Being a person who's historically been described as exhibiting both these factors, I can resonate with his contextualization up to a point. I say 'up to a point' because I'm not sure I completely agree with the way he frames and defines the factors and their interrelationship
Something therein which also resonates with myself and thank you for so eloquently expressing, in fine detail, my own conclusions.

I find nothing pertinent to expand on a fascinating thread tangent!
 
Will take a look.... see what else is there.
When I said, 'kept back a few games for myself'...

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There also be in a cupboard box, three of the greatest Amiga games ever.

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One further surprise discovery...

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I was tempted to open this... see what condition the contents might be in after some 30 years.

Decided not to.

Scared what could be inside... box has resided in corner of a dark cupboard since way back then... have a vision of opening the lid and thousands of tiny spiders escaping...

I may be :omr: but I'm not :wacky:...
 
Another thing which keeps bothering myself, perhaps increasingly as one grows older and occasionally wonders, 'is that it then...?', would be:

Can you really communicate with someone deceased?

Simply as an exercise, decided to consult a known 'oracle' - someone I have taken to admire and thus Googled the following:

"charles fort thoughts on death"

The remit was... 'go on then Charles, show myself something different... something really surprising I had never come across...'.

Followed up a few search results and nothing came of it, of course, just this old photograph.

Dreiser and Fort 4 Oct 1931_compress26.jpg


Which, to be fair, I have never seen before.

Please say it's relatively unknown! :evillaugh:
 
... Please say it's relatively unknown! :evillaugh:

It's seldom seen or presented, but not very 'unknown'. This photo surfaces now and then in relation to either Dreiser or Fort.

Perhaps more interesting is their long and mutually cherished friendship.

Here is a PDF version of Mike Dash's 1988 essay on their friendship and reciprocal influence ...

https://dreiseronlinecom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/charles-fort-and-a-man-named-dreiser.pdf

CITATION: Mike Dash, “Charles Fort and a Man Named Dreiser,” Fortean Times, no. 51, winter 1988/89, pp. 40–48

Host Webpage: https://dreiseronlinecom.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/charles-fort-and-dreiser/
 
It's seldom seen or presented, but not very 'unknown'. This photo surfaces now and then in relation to either Dreiser or Fort.
See.. there you go and clearly an argument for contending Charles Fort did 'spiritually respond' to my plea for a, 'sign'...

Well, it's not that 'nothing' happened, is it...

:tumble:

Seriously, fascinating background and thank you so much!

Your suggested further reading shall duly be persued.

Fort is such an extraordinary character (I prefer 'is') and the more I learn of him, the more that seems to prevail!.
 
When I upgraded to the Amiga 500, there was only one sports game in town.

Mates would stay at my house all weekend playing this and once you got into a tournament, sleep had no place!

Still, I believe, the most innovative computer sports game invented.

The following link features actual game play and... damn, do I wish for a match right now!


That was... what year? I'm guessing 1980s.

Looked it up and... 1990!

So... we would all have been playing this in our late 20s/early 30s...

Bloody 'ell! Never realised that!

Right enough, beginning of 1990, I opened a small computer shop, specialising in the Amiga.

I kept for myself, copies of best games released during that time.

I have boxes of same, most of which have never seen daylight since.

I still have an Amiga 500, Amiga monitor and a variety of unopened joysticks.

And I just wonder...

Will take a look.... see what else is there.

Incidentally, was sure I been here before, just checked and... :)

https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/the-trolls-head.60983/post-1858148

Speedball was brilliant. Many same hour was spent playing against my nephew. Violent, fast and fun to the max. An almost perfect game.
 
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