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Ageing & Growing Old

Are you growing older?

  • Yes, I am

    Votes: 82 61.7%
  • No, I'm getting younger

    Votes: 28 21.1%
  • Sorry, I don't understand the question

    Votes: 16 12.0%
  • I'm a Mod; I think adding silly polls to chat threads is pointless

    Votes: 7 5.3%

  • Total voters
    133
More than you may want to know about old age and dying... ;)

Rab C Nesbitt - Series 9 - 6. Bottle

Comedy featuring Scotland's string-vested, beer-guzzling sage.

An old woman on her way to the Pearly Gates discovers a couple of unlikely carers by her bedside. While Rab racks his brains to offer crumbs of comfort, Jamesie is dogged by disaster as he attempts to buy her last fish supper.

Featuring a guest appearance from Jan Wilson.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... _9_Bottle/
 
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Spurned 85-year-old jailed for stabbing woman
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scot ... 538677.stm

Joseph McGorman
Joseph McGorman left his victim scarred for life

A 85-year-old man who stabbed a 74-year-old woman after she rejected his romantic advances has been jailed for two years and eight months.

A court heard how loner Joseph McGorman became obsessed with Benedicta McLean, who had befriended him.

But when Mrs McLean told him she was married and did not need his affections McGorman lay in wait at her Edinburgh home and stabbed her.

Ms McLean was scarred for life in the knife attack.

Passing sentence at the High Court in Dumbarton, judge Lord Pentland said the gravity of the offence meant he had no option but to jail McGorman - despite his age.

He says his situation now in jail is better than it has ever been at any time in his life
Ronnie Renucci
Defence advocate

The judge said: "This was an extremely serious assault on someone who had done you no wrong, and had in fact offered her friendship

"You armed yourself with a knife and lay in wait for her to get home. This assault was entirely preventable, and it endangered her life.

"Alcohol played a part but that is no excuse."

McGorman, from the Corstorphine area of Edinburgh, pled guilty at a previous court hearing to assaulting Mrs McLean, who is said to feel no bitterness towards her attacker, to the endangerment of her life.

The court had been told McGorman had planned to slit Mrs McLean's throat and then throw himself off the Forth Road Bridge, but his victim fought back and survived the attack.

When police arrested him nearby a short time after the attack on 14 October, McGorman told them: "You can push a person too far. You can only take so much."

Mrs McLean was attacked at the home in Clermiston Road which she shared with her husband, who had dementia.

McGorman, who had slept rough for much of his life and was a heavy drinker, had known her for about two years through a mutual friend.

She helped him, provided him with friendship, clothing and items for his home, and occasionally went round to see how he was, the court was told.

Advocate depute Alex Prentice QC said that on the day of the attack McGorman had waited outside Mrs McLean's house until she left it to go shopping.

He told her that he loved her, but after Mrs McLean rejected his advances and said she would no longer be going to his house he shook her hand, kissed her on the cheek, and the two went their separate ways.

'Angry and confused'

When Mrs McLean returned about half an hour later, McGorman stabbed her several times on the face and body.

Mrs McLean picked up a stone and threw it at him as he left the scene.

Defence advocate Ronnie Renucci said McGorman had never been in a romantic relationship of any kind.

Mr Renucci said: "He regarded his relationship with this woman as something special.

"That evening he had been angry and confused. He says his intention was to shake her up. She didn't want to speak to him, and he accepts he lost control."

He added: "He is not seeking sympathy for what he has done. He says his situation now in jail is better than it has ever been at any time in his life."

The court heard that McGorman had been jailed for three months for assault 25 years ago - his only previous conviction.
 
Vid at link.

Azerbaijan's Talysh 'ancients' under threat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8544658.stm

The Talysh community in Azerbaijan says its elderly are amongst the oldest in the world.

Dozens of the group who live in the south of the country near the border with Iran, are said to have surpassed the age of 110, but the community fears that the pressures of modern life may make this generation the last of a "dying breed".

Tom Esslemont reports
 
69-year-old British granny DJ conquers French party scene
The latest party circuit princess to wow the night clubs and festivals of France with her DJ skills is a British granny who took a shine to the decks after going to a birthday disco for her grandson.
Published: 12:51PM GMT 04 Mar 2010

Clad in her leopard-skin shrug and dark sunglasses, 69-year-old Ruth Flowers has conquered French clubland from the Cannes Film Festival to the top Paris nightspots with a mix of old-school hits, electrobeat and bling-bling style.

"It started really when my grandson had a birthday party ... they always have a little disco, don't they, after the party," Flowers told Reuters, lounging on a white sofa in a Paris hotel in a green satin bomber jacket and trademark shades contrasting with her white hair.

"I went along quite late and the gentlemen at the door said, 'I don't think you want to go in there, Madame'. And I said, 'Well I rather think I do'," she said.

"I went in and it was very noisy and the lights were flashing, but there was an awful lot of energy and joy."

While Flowers, a trained singer, was more used to church songs, she was so taken by the party that she decided there and then to become a disc jockey. :shock:

"I had no idea at the time of electro music," she said.

However, as someone with interests ranging from history to theatre and fashion, she was willing to learn.

A friend put her in touch with French producer Aurelien Simon who taught her how to spin and helped her to develop a style, sprinkling her techno sets with tunes from Abba, Queen and the Rolling Stones.

"In the beginning it was just a little joke but it became serious," Simon told Reuters by phone. "It took four years because she had to learn to use the machines. I explained the basics of electro music, and then she created her own style."

Eye-catching earrings and her sartorial style make Flowers a stand out when she works the turntables, nodding to the beat and clapping her hands above her head.

"It's a little glammy, a bit over the top, but it fits the bill I think," she said of her outfits. "I mean, if I appeared in a cardigan, a sweater and brogue shoes it wouldn't be quite the same."

Flowers is working on a single, due to be released this spring. Some of her friends in London were a little sceptical about her new career at first, but she has drawn encouragement from her family and fans.

She remembers how young people from all over the world came up to her when she performed at the Cannes film festival.

"They said, "you're awesome, we want to be like you'," she said. "I always say – you don't want to be like me. You want to be you." 8)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... scene.html

Looks like CarlosTheDJ has a rival! :D
 
100-year-old woman says drink and cigarettes keep her young 8)
A woman who toasted her 100th birthday today with a cigarette and a tot of whisky said she would also be raising a glass to 70 years as a committed smoker and drinker.
By Heidi Blake
Published: 7:30AM GMT 04 Mar 2010

Lorna Gobey smoked her first cigarette in 1940 – the same year the country was blitzed during the Battle of Britain.

The retired cinema-usher, who smokes 20 Sterling Superkings Blue a day, has gone through over half-a-million cigarettes since then.

The great grandmother of 55 – who also has 27 grandchildren and 12 great-great grandchildren – danced the night away at her local Labour Club on Monday, where she enjoyed her favourite tipple – a whiskey Guinness chaser.

Mrs Govey attributes her longevity to her fun-loving lifestyle and said her family ''wouldn't dare'' tell her to stop smoking.

Speaking from her home in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, yesterday, she said: ''I've been smoking since I was 30 and have had no problems at all.

''People try and tell you it's bad for you but my family wouldn't dare ask me to stop. If they did, I'd put them across my lap and give them a slapped bum. :D

''I've always tried to enjoy life. I think it's important to do the things you want to do and not to let things get you down.

''I like my smokes, a drop of whiskey and Guinness and I still love to play skittles. Perhaps it's part of the reason I have lived for so long. I never thought I'd make it to 100, but I have. I'm quite amazed really.''

Mrs Gobey was born in Apperly, near Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, in 1910, before moving to nearby Cheltenham where she has lived ever since.

She had a variety of jobs including cleaning, cooking and working as an usher at the Goldmont cinema – later renamed the Odeon, where she started smoking aged 30.

She has lived through two world wars, three husbands and countless governments, and carried on riding a motorcycle until she was well into her 70s.

But Mrs Gobey is showing no signs of slowing down.

She said: ''I'm going to carry on for as long as I can. I'm captain of my skittles team and I want to continue playing.

''My lifestyle hasn't done me any harm so far. You could say I haven't followed the rule book, but I'm not about to change now.''

Her son Bob Fisher, 66, said: ''She smokes faster than the rest of us and still loves a drink. She loves bingo, playing a tune on the mouth organ and riding around town in cars.''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... young.html

She's obviously got good genes for longevity, and dozens of offspring to pass them on!
 
Two supercentenarians die on the same day
Two of the oldest people in the world have died on the same day.
Published: 7:00AM GMT 09 Mar 2010

Mary Josephine Ray, who was certified as the oldest person living in the United States, died Sunday at age 114 years, 294 days. She died at a nursing home in Westmoreland but was active until about two weeks before her death, her granddaughter Katherine Ray said.

"She just enjoyed life. She never thought of dying at all," Katherine Ray said. "She was planning for her birthday party."

Ray died just hours before Daisey Bailey, who was 113 years, 342 days, said L. Stephen Coles, a director of the Gerontology Research Group, which tracks and studies old people and certifies those 110 or older, called supercentenarians.

"It's very rare that two of our supercentenarians die on the same day," Coles said.

Bailey, who was born March 30, 1896, died in Detroit, he said. She had suffered from dementia, said her family, which claimed she was born in 1895.

Ray, even with her recent decline, managed an interview with a reporter last week, her granddaughter said.

Ray was the oldest person in the United States and the second-oldest in the world, the Gerontology Research Group said. She also was recorded as the oldest person ever to live in New Hampshire.

The oldest living American is now Neva Morris, of Ames, Iowa, at age 114 years, 216 days. The oldest person in the world is Japan's Kama Chinen at age 114 years, 301 days.

Ray was born on May 17, 1895, in Canada. She moved to the United States at age three.

She lived for 60 years in Anson, Maine. She the moved to Florida, Massachusetts and elsewhere in New Hampshire before she settled in Westmoreland in 2002 to be near her children.

Ray's husband, Walter Ray, died in 1967. Survivors include two sons, eight grandchildren, 13 great-grandchildren and five great-great-grandchildren.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... e-day.html
 
WWII heroine Andree Peel dies in Long Ashton aged 105
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 555644.stm

Resistance heroine dies aged 105

A French resistance heroine who saved more than 100 lives and survived a Nazi death squad has died at the age of 105.

Known as Agent Rose, Andree Peel helped dozens of British and US pilots escape from occupied Europe. She lived near Bristol after marrying an Englishman.

Mrs Peel, who lived at Long Ashton, was awarded a second Legion d'Honneur in 2009 to mark her bravery.

After the war she received a personal letter from Winston Churchill congratulating her on her work.

She also received the Croix de Guerre and the American Medal of Freedom.

She was being lined up to be shot by a firing squad at the Buchenwald concentration camp when the US Army arrived to liberate the prisoners.

'Phenomenal Courage'

A former hairdresser from Brittany, Mrs Peel began her involvement with the resistance modestly, by handing out underground newspapers.

Later she tracked troop movements and went on to head an under-section of the movement.

Her network allowed Allied pilots to escape German captivity, hiding them and - where possible - smuggling them away from France in submarines and on small boats.

She recounted her wartime experiences in her autobiography Miracles Do Happen, which was published in 1999.

After the war she moved to Paris and met her future husband John Peel.

Mr Peel, an academic, died some years ago and in recent years she formed a partnership with Brian Westaway, a fellow resident at Lambton House retirement home.

Commenting on her death, Dr Liam Fox, Conservative MP for Woodspring, said: "Mrs Peel was an iconic figure who showed phenomenal courage in the most difficult circumstances.

"Her selfless bravery saved many lives and she stands as a monument to the triumph of the human spirit, which will set an example for many generations to come."
 
Four in 10 men over 75 say they are still having sex (but only two in 10 women)
Survey reveals a startling increase in libido among the 'Viagra generation'
By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor
Wednesday, 10 March 2010


The feminist academic Camille Paglia once described sex at age 90 as "like trying to shoot pool with a rope". But despite her coruscating verdict sexual life expectancy is increasing, researchers say.

A study published today shows that among 75 to 85 year olds, four out of 10 men and two out of 10 women are still having sex – or they claim to, at least.

All sex surveys based on self reports are bedevilled by the accuracy of measurement. It is hard to be sure whether the gender imbalance shows the resilience of male interest in sex or the resilience of their propensity to boast about it. 8)

But the researchers say there is a simpler explanation. Men tend to marry women younger than themselves and die sooner; more women are widowed and thus lack a partner with whom to have sex. Men can therefore look forward to longer active sex lives than women, though women seem unperturbed by it.

The study, by academics at Chicago University in the US, estimates for the first time the "sexually active life expectancy" of men and women at different ages. It shows that at the age of 30, men have a sexually active life expectancy of nearly 35 years; for women it is almost 31 years. At age 55, the expectancy changes to almost 15 years for men and 10 years for women.

The findings, published in the British Medical Journal, are based on results from two surveys, each of 3,000 men and women. One subject group was aged 25 to 74 and the other was aged 57 to 85.

The two studies offered different definitions of "sexual activity". The first, among the younger age group, defined it as "any mutually voluntary activity with another person that involved sexual contact, whether or not intercourse or orgasm occurred" during the previous six months.

This elaborate construction may reflect the confusion many Americans feel about what counts as sexual activity. When Bill Clinton famously declared of his aide Monica Lewinsky "I did not have sex with that woman", he was telling the truth in the eyes of a large percentage of his countrymen (and women) whom surveys showed agreed that oral sex did not count as "having sex". :D

The second survey among the 57 to 85 group used the simpler definition of "having had sex with anyone" but over a longer period of 12 months.

The researchers say the results show that, unremarkably, people in good health are almost twice as likely to be interested in sex as those in poor health. Men have more sex and more interest in sex at all ages, and the gender gap widens with advancing years.

etc...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 18828.html
 
Or maybe the four in 10 men over 75 are having sex with each other?
 
gncxx said:
Or maybe the four in 10 men over 75 are having sex with each other?

Or with (relatively) younger women, as a cuddly femme d'un certain age I seem to get quite a few elderly chaps striking up a conversation, if I'm having a coffee on my own in town.
 
We prepare for birth - why not prepare for death?
A new book on coping with death by Comic Relief founder Jane Tewson aims to aid the grieving process
Peter Stanford
Published: 7:00AM GMT 15 Mar 2010

A woman is sitting at a teacher's desk in a smart suit, but she is well beyond retirement age. Behind her, the blackboard reads "The meaning of life?" The smartly-shot photograph is the kind you would expect in a glossy coffee-table book, and alongside it are the words: "People study for weeks for a birth. Why not study for a death?"

This is the first of 60 'thought buds' – arresting images, each with a thought-provoking caption, rather like mini advertising billboards – that make up an unorthodox new book on coping with death.

Produced by a team led by Jane Tewson, one of the co-founders of Comic Relief, it is being launched as part of Dying Matters Awareness Week, a promotional event organised by the National Council for Palliative Care, to help break down some of the taboos associated with death and dying. "Our book is simply an attempt to promote conversations about life," Tewson explains, "but because it is about life, it is also about death. When people die, it is done and dusted. People just don't talk about it or them."

The 60 'buds' cover usually taboo topics, from the technicalities of cremation, the etiquette of throwing your own wake before you die, to the sex lives of those with life-threatening illnesses. One picture of a lined Central American peasant woman comes with the question: "Why do some cultures have elders but others have the elderly?" Another, of an old-fashioned parking meter, shows the 'expired' red warning label, accompanied by the slogan: "Drive like a loved one is coming the other way. Someone's is."

Inside the back cover is a pocket containing a DIY 'Emotional Will'. "That is such a crucial part of the book," enthuses Tewson. "If you go to the lawyer to make a will, there is nothing in it about emotion. The Emotional Will is a chance for you to leave behind your favourite joke, film, book or recipe – the things that I treasure most that I have been left have no financial value. The mother of an old boyfriend left me her chopping block, and every time I use it now I think of her and see her standing in the kitchen window chopping vegetables when I'd arrive at her house." :)

etc....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/74283 ... death.html
 
Patrick Moore reluctantly puts away his telescope
All his life, Sir Patrick Moore has felt the same degree of affinity with his telescope as David Beckham has with a succession of footballs. Now, however, the presenter of The Sky at Night – the longest running television series with the same presenter – tells Mandrake that he has reluctantly had to put it away for good.
Tim Walker
Published: 10:10PM GMT 14 Mar 2010

"I was knocked about a bit in the RAF during the war and the doctors warned me my spine could go at any time after 30," says the 87-year-old astronomer, who was a navigator in Wellington bombers during the Second World War.

"In the event, it didn't start playing up until I was 78 so I can't complain. It has now put an end to two of my great passions – not just my telescope, but also my piano as I love music as much as astronomy. I simply can't operate either of them any more." :( Although Sir Patrick has no intention of giving up as the presenter of The Sky at Night on the BBC, the news that he can no longer use his telescope has dismayed Sir Patrick's friends, including Brian May, the former lead guitarist of the rock band Queen who is also an astrophysicist of some repute.

"Patrick is a great friend," May told me at the annual dinner and ball of the Variety Club at the Hilton in Park Lane. "It is a degenerative problem he has with his back, but he is facing up to it with great courage."

In 2008, Sir Patrick suggested that an asteroid should be named in May's honour – quite possibly influenced by its provisional designation 1998BM30. Sir Patrick has been passionate about astronomy all his life – he became the youngest member of the British Astronomical Association at the age of 11.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... scope.html
 
On Laying Down One's Telescope

Lay down thy hollow tube, Sir Pat,
And rest thy weary spine.
"Prick arse, rim too," oh fancy that!
Anagramatically divine!


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Thats sad for Patrick Moore, I can remember him and his telescope for as long as I can remember!
It must be awful for anyone not to be able to do to the things they love anymore!
Still doing anything until the age of 87 is damned good :D
 
Do you really stop feeling young at 35 and start feeling old at 58?
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 9:36 AM on 17th March 2010

It was the age at which BBC newsreader Moira Stewart controversially lost her job, amid claims that she was being cast aside for being too old.
But 58 does seem to be a critical point in life in the minds of the British people.
According to the European Social Survey, Britons believe that old age begins at 58.
Researchers asked 40,000 people in 31 countries: When does youth end and old age begin?'
For the UK, the average response was that you stop being young at 35, and start being old at 58 - the age of rock star Sting, actor Trevor Eve and actresses Anjelica Huston and Cheryl Ladd.
Also clocking in at an 'elderly' 58 is Kathryn Bigelow, who has just won an Oscar for directing the action-packed movie The Hurt Locker.
While Gordon Brown and glamorous actress Jane Seymour are positively ancient, both coming in at 59.

It may come as no surprise that opinions differed among the age groups. Those aged 15 to 24 thought that youth ended at just 28 and old age commenced at 54.
People in their 80s were more generous. They regarded the final year of youth as 42, and the onset of old age as 67.

Professor Dominic Abrams at the University of Kent, who studied the data from across Europe, said: 'This evidence shows that what counts as young and old is very largely down to the age of the beholder.
'The survey showed that age prejudice - being treated as 'too young' or 'too old' - is perceived to be a serious or very serious issue by 63 per cent of respondents.
'It is obviously important to know what these age labels mean to people'.

Other countries produced different results.

Youth was deemed to end earliest among the Portuguese who said they stopped being young at 29, while in Cyprus it was 45.
While the Portuguese thought old age began at 51, but for the Belgians it did not start until 64.
Professor Abrams added: 'We found that in warmer countries such as Portugal and Slovakia, youth ends earlier and old age begins earlier.
'But in the the UK and the Nordic countries people have a longer middle age.
'This is down to factors such as climate, types of jobs and percentage of people in higher education which can make you feel young for longer.'

The population of the UK is ageing. Sixteen per cent of us are 65 or older, and for the first time that age group outnumbers people aged under 18.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z0iQhM1VKS
 
Home sweet home for pensioner who has lived in same house for 96 YEARS
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 7:51 PM on 17th March 2010

Just ten days before Britain declared war on Germany in 1914, Muriel Noyce’s family – including her ten siblings - moved into their new home.
Ninety-six years later and the 100-year-old is still living at the two-bedroom terrace property – which has gone up in value from £500 to £225,000.
Miss Noyce, known as ‘Moo’ to her friends, has seen the end of two world wars as well as vast changes to society, all from the comfort of her modest home in Romsey, Hampshire.

And she can recall the times when ‘you never had to lock your door’ and ‘people were much more polite to you’.
Her father, William, who worked at the city docks, started renting the house for just ten shillings, when she was four years old.

The youngest of 11 children, Miss Noyce, who was born in Southampton, admits it was a bit of a squeeze when it came to going to sleep.
She said: ‘Mum and dad had the back bedroom and I used to sleep in their room with four of my siblings - we slept top to toe on a double bed.
‘In the other bedroom another six of my siblings slept top to toe.’

However, the former typist and cinema usher, who now lives with her three cats, is the only family member left as her last sister, Elvira, passed away five years ago.
She said: ‘I never left home and married because I had to look after my parents.
‘And when I finally had the opportunity to leave I didn't meet “Mr Right” so I decided to stay.’

Over the years Miss Noyce has gradually updated her home.
In 1914, the home was lit with paraffin oil lamps and candles. Heat was generated from paraffin heaters and a coal range, which was used to cook.
The family had an outdoor toilet, built over a stream in the garden, and bathed in a tin tub.

In 1948 electricity was installed for £50 and in the late 1950s the family rented a television which just had three channels. In 1960 a bathroom was installed in the house.

Miss Noyce recalls earning £1 a week at her first job as a typist, aged 18 - the equivalent today of around £45.
In her spare time Miss Noyce went dancing at the local halls and, during the war, occasionally attracted the advances of soldiers.
However, one night an American officer incurred Miss Noyce's wrath after becoming a little too frisky while walking her home.
She was so incensed by his advances she knocked him out with a milk churn. 8)

Over the years Miss Noyce has seen many changes to her community.
Her street, once home to a butcher, baker, a coal yard and even a shop that treated corns, is now full of houses.

But it's not just the landscape that has changed.
Miss Noyce said: ‘In the old days life was hard but much safer and you had a better time.
‘You never had to lock your doors and people were much more polite to you.
‘More people went to church and were willing to give you the time of day.
‘Youngsters also respected their elders but nowadays they are quite disgusting.
‘They walk around smoking and drinking to all hours - even in the streets.
‘You can hear them swearing in public places and a lot of girls get pregnant before they are married.’

Social historian Professor Carl Chinn, of the University of Birmingham, said Miss Noyce living in the same home for 96 years was a ‘tremendous achievement’.
‘It just goes to show how important the sense of place and their roots are for some people,’ he added.
‘We are more prone to move these days but roots and kinship networks are still important, particularly to working class people like myself.
‘There are definitely more opportunities to move these days and work tends to take people further afield.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0iWgQThXj
 
No shit! I got a 13 year old Border collie http://www.grimmy.com/comics.php a 11 year old cat a 21 year old cat a 80 year old mother an 84 year old father ( I will be so rich when they pass on god bless their soles) and I grunt when I bend to tie my shoes and I often look at 20 some-thin girls with such lust it makes me discusted!!

No..I'm ok.

(oh!! on that link I gave with the cartoon ...punch in previous strip....that's the one!! with the "don't ever try to do a coloring book with a border collie!!)
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There you go I just posted the cartoon above ...its soooo true. ha haha haha hah ha ha ha hah
 
Meet Florrie Baldwin, Europe's oldest person
A Slice of Britain: She's 114 this Wednesday and once came face-to-face with Queen Victoria, but says there was never any such thing as 'the good old days'
By Nina Lakhani
Sunday, 28 March 2010

She was three years old when the Second Boer War broke out. She got married two years after the First World War; her husband was too old to fight by the second. And when Neil Armstrong took his small step on the Moon, she had been a pensioner for over a decade. This Wednesday, Mrs Baldwin, better known as Florrie, will celebrate her 114th birthday as the oldest person in Europe. With her will be her 89-year-old daughter, grandsons, great- and great-great-grandchildren as she drinks tea and eats Maltesers, probably wondering what all the fuss is about.

The making of 21st-century Britain is the backdrop to her life, encompassing both world wars; women winning the right to vote; the inception of the NHS; and the birth of flight. As a girl of four, Florrie came face to face with Victoria when the queen came to Leeds.

Sadly, Florrie's memories have now all but slipped away from her – she suffers from dementia :( – but her family maintains a store of tales from her life, each a rich slice of British history. David Worsnop, 64, her grandson, recalls how she "remembered the flags on the street to celebrate the end of the Boer War, the first aeroplanes and how cars started to appear on every street.

"But it was the little things, like how she would come out to meet the milkman on his pony and cart, who would ladle the milk from big urns into each person's jug, that we loved to hear about."

He adds: "Gran always said there was no such thing as the 'good old days' because she remembered when people couldn't afford to see a doctor and children ran around without shoes on their feet."

etc...

More than 100 British people have reached their 110th birthday, but with the deaths of Harry Patch and Henry Allingham last year, only 10 super-centenarians are still with us. Many are proud of what has been achieved in their lifetime, particularly the health service and the welfare state.

Most, also like Florrie, cling fiercely to independence: she didn't use the NHS until her 80s when she needed a cataract operation, and insisted on cleaning her own house until she moved into a nursing home at the age of 105. Her grandson laughs: "One day I found her standing on her polished sideboard changing the net curtains: she was 102 at the time." 8)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 29317.html
 
A news item with a personal connection for me (File under "It used to be all green fields round here.."):

Isles of Scilly helicopter link firm 'to sell heliport'

A helicopter company that provides the main air link between Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly plans to sell off its heliport for redevelopment.

British International Helicopters (BIH) has agreed to sell Penzance Heliport to Sainsbury's.

The sale is subject to the firm gaining planning consent for a new store.

Flights will continue from Penzance until the end of September 2011 when BIH plans to operate services out of Land's End or possibly Newquay.

The Penzance base has provided a flight link to the islands for about 40 years.

Flights from the Penzance site will continue for the next two seasons, BIH said.

Managing Director Tony Jones said the deal had been worked on "for some months".

The company announced at the end of 2008 that it planned to move operations to Land's End Aerodrome.

It said the move was necessary because the route had been losing money for years and the new base would help cut journey times and save money.

However, Tony Jones said that the company was now also looking at how operations could work from Newquay.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/8596094.stm

In 1977 my new bride and I flew from PZ to Scilly on honeymoon...
Sainsburys doesn't have the same romantic feel about it. :( And that end of PZ is full of superstores anyway.
If BIH want to save money, I can't see the point of operating from Newquay, which is almost twice as far from Scilly as PZ (unless they're thinking of going fixed-wing..)
 
Dumb cops, or Police State? Whatever, it's another down-side to growing old...

The old-age 'offenders': Generation of elderly turned into criminals
By Paul Bentley
Last updated at 12:43 AM on 03rd April 2010

Record numbers of pensioners are being criminalised for trivial offences by target-driven police.
Officers arrest 40 senior citizens every day in Britain on average, official figures show.
Their crimes range from failing to pay a fine for overfilling a wheelie bin to not wearing a seatbelt or chopping a neighbour's hedge without permission.
Many are being punished for the first time after decades of abiding by the law.

Critics say these 'easy collar' arrests are part of a cynical drive to meet police performance targets.
Figures from forces around the UK reveal that a staggering 44,321 pensioners were arrested over the past three years.
Previous estimates of 'grey crime' have attributed 2,000 offences a year to the over-65s.

But since 2007, the number of elderly people being arrested has reached more than 12,000 a year. Last year a record 13,000 over-65s felt the long arm of the law.
The figures, obtained by the Daily Mail under the Freedom of Information Act, have astonished campaigners for the elderly.

They have accused the Government of criminalising the retired of Middle England for minor misdemeanours instead of chasing the real villains.
The true number of over-65s being hauled before the courts could be far higher if prosecutions by local authorities are taken into account.
The punishment handed out to a greatgrandmother caught selling a goldfish to a teenager in a council sting operation caused outrage this week.

Pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, was electronically tagged, fined £1,000 and placed under curfew for flouting new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.

Police have been criticised for a series of incidents involving the elderly where officers have been accused of heavy-handed-ness. They include a Christian grandmother who was accused of a hate crime after writing to her council to complain about a gay pride march.

A 70-year-old in Cheshire, who had never been in trouble with the law, was arrested for criminal damage after cutting back a neighbour's conifers too vigorously.

Yesterday veteran TV presenter Esther Rantzen said: 'I don't think we are talking about people taking up robbery at the age of retirement or gangster grannies.'

The 69-year-old former That's Life presenter, who is standing for Parliament in the Luton South seat as an independent candidate, added:

'As a result of ludicrous legislation brought in by the Government, jobsworths enshrined in law are picking on the elderly for minor infringements of unimportant laws to meet their targets.'

The figures obtained from 53 forces indicated around 90 per cent of arrests involved elderly men rather than women.
Motoring offences, including not wearing a seatbelt, make up half the cases dealt with by the courts. Refusing to accept a wheelie bin fine can also lead to court.

Liberal Democrat MP Chris Huhne said: 'These record figures are a result of Labour creating a new crime for every day in office, rather than an OAP crimewave.
Labour's legacy will be to have criminalised a generation and treated tens of thousands of law-abiding middle-aged and elderly citizens like villains.'

etc...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0k2t5B49O
 
Wells chorister celebrates 70 years in church choir

A man who joined a choir in 1940 in Somerset when he was eight years old has celebrated 70 years of singing with the same church group.

Mervyn Salmon, 78, became part of St Cuthbert's Church choir in Wells when Winston Churchill was prime minister and King George VI was on the throne.

Mr Salmon was baptised and confirmed at the church and lives with his older brother in the house where he was born.

He said: "I've sung constantly for 70 years except during national service."

Mr Salmon, whose job before he retired was looking after the stores at Mendip Hospital, remembered what it was like when he first joined the choir as a boy.

He said: "I remember the evacuees coming - we got on very well with them and we still do because a lot of them are still here.

"One of my regrets is how choirs have changed, we've no youngsters in the choir now. In those days, there were about 35 to 40 boys in the choir.

"What I like is that everyone in the choir is equal. In one concert, I had an admiral on one side and a judge on the other side - me, who didn't pass my eleven plus."

Choirmaster, Peter Kingston, said: "Anniversaries are very important - especially for something as rare as this.

"This man has been singing Sunday after Sunday all these years. I think his only time off was when he went to fight at Suez during his national service.

"The continuity is quite extraordinary, I don't know how many choirmasters have come and gone in that time."

Archdeacon Dick Acworth said: "It's a great achievement, the thing about it now is the consistency.

"He's been here all this time and for many of us today, we take something up and then we drop it and then we move on to something else."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/8602688.stm

I have to applaud this as an instance of social continuity, even though I'm not religious myself. Once upon a time, such stories would have been far more common.
 
From God to Mammon...

Elderly 'Geezer bandit' bank robber strikes again
Police in California are urgently trying to track down an elderly man who has robbed seven banks in the San Diego area.
Published: 7:00AM BST 23 Apr 2010

Earlier this week the grey-haired man, nicknamed the "Geezer bandit", struck again, waiting patiently in line before approaching a bank teller at the California Bank and Trust teller in Vista, showing his handgun and passing over a note demanding cash.

The FBI said that the teller handed over an undisclosed number of notes, which the placed in his personal organiser, and then calmly walked out of the bank. 8)

Believed to be in his seventies, the man wears prescription glasses and a baseball cap during the heists. He is described as roughly 5ft 10ins tall.

Law enforcement officials are asking for the public's help to identify him and banks have also united to try to catch the septuagenarian thief.

Three banks, all in the San Diego area, have offered a reward of $16,000 (£10,400) for the his arrest.

The series of holdups attributed to the man began in late August and have taken place at banks in Carmel Valley, La Jolla, the La Playa neighbourhood of Point Loma, Rancho Santa Fe and Santee.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... again.html

Well, in these credit crunch times, you've got to eke out your pension somehow...
;)
 
It's not funny for the clerks to have a gun pointed at them, just because the robber is elderly.
 
escargot1 said:
It's not funny for the clerks to have a gun pointed at them, just because the robber is elderly.
I wasn't condoning his actions, missus! It was just a little joke remark, a bit of mild gallows humour, if you like, but not quite so grim.
 
Another unruly pensioner:

German pensioner fined €14,000 for cannonball dives at public pool
A German pensioner was fined €14,000 (£12,000) for repeatedly performing cannonball dives at a public swimming pool, according to reports.
Published: 12:08AM BST 01 May 2010

A 74-year-old retired teacher, identified only as Axel G., was accused of terrorising a local pool, where cannonballs, or Arschbomben, (literally "ass bombs") are forbidden, according to a report in The Local.

He appeared before the Alzey district court this week to appeal the fine. According to The Local, the pensioner had been accused of terrorising fellow swimmers for years with his explosive dives, spitting in the water and even dunking a young girl underwater.

Axel G. initially denied all of the charges, but CCTV footage of the pool revealed evidence of the disruptive diving.

He has since withdrawn his appeal, and has agreed to pay the fine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -pool.html

'Arschbomben' eh? Must remember that!
 
At least he wasn't running, smoking or, erm, petting...
 
Ninety-year-old West Yorkshire woman hits hole-in-one

A 90-year-old woman from West Yorkshire has amazed her fellow golfers by hitting a hole in one.

Mary Tattersall made the 181yd (165m) shot on the second hole at Shay Grange Golf Centre in Heaton near Bradford.

The pensioner, who has only been playing golf for two years, said she felt amazed and stunned to have achieved the feat.

She was given a special trophy by the club to mark her success on the par three hole.

"I was going around with friends and on the second tee off was amazed to find that I couldn't find my ball and it was in the hole," Ms Tattersall said.

"I was quite amazed really, and stunned, and so were my fellow golfers at the same moment."

Ms Tattersall was 88 when she took up golf to get some exercise and make new friends.

Jordan Gibson, owner of Shay Grange, said she was a natural at the sport.

He said: "It's very rare to get a hole in one. Mary is a real natural with excellent hand and eye co-ordination. She loves golf and plays in all weathers.

"She is an amazing woman, when you see her getting in and out of her car I always feel I should go and help her, but she just jumps out, swings her clubs on her back and she's away."

Ms Tattersall said: "I'm not a competitive person, I only come up to the Shay because it's a very good exercise, better than going to the gym."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8656866.stm
 
Medals For Heroes
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 51728.html

ELAINE EDWARDS

Sat, May 08, 2010

Russia Honours Arctic Convoy Veterans

FOUR IRISH veterans of the Arctic convoys which helped bring supplies to the Soviet Union during the second World War were yesterday presented with medals of honour on behalf of the Russian people.

The men, or their next-of-kin, were presented with the 65th Anniversary Medal of the Great Patriotic War 1941-45 by Mikhail E Timoshkin, ambassador of the Russian Federation, at a ceremony at the Russian embassy in Dublin.

Ted Jones, from Clontarf in Dublin, and Geoffrey Medcalf from Dalkey, Co Dublin, were accompanied by their families to collect their honours.

June O’Neill collected a medal on behalf of her late husband Gerry O’Neill, and Helen Sparksman was presented with the award for her late husband Norman Sparksman, who died aged 89 on December 31st last.

Mr Jones (87), volunteered for the RAF just after the age of 18 and received his wings after training at Pensacola, Florida, in 1942, where he flew Catalina flying boats.

On his return to England he was sent on a special operational training course.

“You would normally go there to train to be second pilots, but two of us were so brilliant we were made captains immediately,” he said.

“Just two days after I was 20 I was captain of a 17-ton flying boat.”

He subsequently joined the 210 squadron up in Shetland, doing 18-hour patrols between Iceland and the Faroes and periodically monitoring the convoys taking supplies on the long journey to Russia – long missions carried out under constant threat from German U-boats armed with anti-aircraft guns. Mr Jones began taking helicopter flying lessons four years ago, and still flies aircraft. He raised more than €7,000 for a hospice when he undertook a tandem parachute jump three years ago.

The ambassador said the medals were being presented on the eve of the “great event” of the 65th anniversary of victory against fascism, which had been a threat to all mankind.

Mr Timoshkin said it was also a “most important” anniversary for his own family, as his father had fought fascism and had died, aged 92, last year. His own uncle Mikhail, after whom he was named, had been shot and killed nine days before the victory near Berlin, and it was very important to remember all those who died.

Just three veterans of the Arctic convoys are still alive in the Republic. Last month, John Hallahan (93) from Mercier Park in Cork was presented with the same medal at a ceremony at Cork City Hall. Mr Hallahan, who has been in hospital, was allowed out for a few hours to attend yesterday, but was unable to do so.

His wife, Peggy Hallahan, travelled to Dublin for the event.

The event was also attended by the acting head of the Defence Forces, Maj Gen Dave Ashe.

Victory Day marks the signing of the German surrender to the Soviet Union in the second World War.
 
Yesterday, on iPlayer, I watched this:

Sea Fever - 1. For Those in Peril

Over the centuries people have been drawn to the sea for different reasons - for pleasure, for fishing and for trade. The unpredictable power of the sea has a nasty habit of catching them out, necessitating the resources of the rescue services and lifeboat volunteers.

Occasionally, home movie makers managed to capture some of the exploits of these rescue services. Their recollections tell the story of how they used increasingly elaborate technology and risked their lives to save the lives of others, and why, in spite of all this, the sea continued to claim so many lives.

Lighthouses were there at the beginning, but automation saw the end of the people who kept them going. One keeper who filmed them before they disappeared at the end of the 20th century was Peter Halil. Peter realised that no one was recording the passing of a way of life, so set about doing it himself. He enlisted the help of fellow keeper Gerry Douglas Sherwood and the programme features the eloquent video he shot, together with recollections of both of them.

Peter's films captured the end of a way of life, while others filmed the inherent dangers to life itself. Amazing film of the work of the volunteer coastguard in St Ives and the crisis to the naval minesweeper HMS Wave in 1951, the RNLI lifeboat in Dover coping with the Texaco Caribbean disaster in 1971, and the work of the combined rescue services called out in August 1979 to the aid of yachts in trouble in the Fastnet race shape the tone of the programme. Maritime historian Richard Woodman provides a historical and technological context for the eyewitnesses and home movie enthusiasts who tell the stories behind the images in each of these rescues.

Perhaps the most compelling is that of Eric Smith, an RAF winchman. Dramatic home movie images filmed from the Cornish coast reveal the daring and ultimately successful operation to rescue two men trapped in a ship sinking off Land's End. The drama and tension are portrayed, as is the skill and bravery of Eric Smith, qualities that brought him the George Medal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... _in_Peril/

Very interesting, especially as much of the footage was shot around Cornwall, including film I'd not seen before of a Breeches Buoy rescue of the crew of a RN minesweeper which had been blown ashore in St Ives in 1952. (Searching the web to find the date for this, I came upon this Pathe Newsclip showing the wreck and her later recovery:
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=30383 )

I joined HM Coastguard in 1977, and Breeches buoy rescue was still part of our training then, although the "..last breeches buoy rescue was in January 1963. In the mid-1980s, the breeches buoy became obsolete." ( http://vr.tees.ac.uk/heritage/artefacts/svlb/mortar.htm )

So I'm one of the last generation to have experience of actually using a Breeches buoy, albeit not for a real rescue...
 
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