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HIM (1974): The Gay-Jesus Porn Film That May (or May Not) Exist

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I wasn't sure whether to post this in the UL or Religion forum, but I'll put it here. There's a bit in the first Golden Turkey Awards book that mentions a film called "Him", which is supposedly a gay interpretation of the Gospels, with a young gay man fantasising about Christ and his disciples. I can't find a mention of it anywhere else, it's not on the IMDB or All Movie Guide as far as I can see, so is it a real film, or made up?
 
According to SNOPES, it is an urban legend...

BUT WAIT, THERE's MORE!

According to A 70's Weird Cinema Website PIMPADELIC WONDERLAND, HIM did exist at one time.

They say:
HIM (Ed D. Louie, 1974) Yes, this gay porn take on the life of Christ does (or at least did) actually exist!

And they include an ad slick from the film!
 
Interesting, thanks. It could be hidden in a vault somewhere. Now if someone would admit to paying money to see it...
 
Wow, this is intriguing.

This is a tiny webpage discussing the 55th Street playhouse:

http://cinematreasures.org/theater/6376/

According to one user:

The 55th Street Playhouse had 253 seats and was located at 154 West 55th Street. It ended its days as a showcase for male porno. Prior to that, it had specialized in "foreign" and American independent movies.

Even on the back of the book cover for Golden Turkey the authors state that one movie they talk about is a complete hoax. I've never heard any of the other titles even mentioned as being the potential bogus film. The mystery grows darker instead of clearer!
 
Well, everything else has to aim for the gay vote, why not Christianity?

Carole
 
I found a bit more info on a messageboard:

: > Speaking of "bad publicity" for movies, I got a spam email the other
: > day w****ng me to protest a movie called "Corpus Christi." . . .
:
: Snopes is your friend:
: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/gayjesus.htm

I've actually seen that play; the local production of it was directed by a
practising Catholic, I believe. As for the gay-porn film _Him_:

We've been unable to turn up anything to confirm this purported film's
existence, however -- we've never found a copy of it, anyone who has
seen it, or a review of it, nor have we located any other reference to
the film or "filmmaker Ed D. Louie" anywhere other than this one entry
in the Golden Turkey Awards book.

I actually have a copy of _The Golden Turkey Awards_, and it's worth
noting that the Medveds themselves state on the very first page:

A Challenge To The Reader:
Over 425 actual films are described in this book, but one is a complete
hoax. Can you find it?

I have often wondered whether _Him_ might be the hoax film, but since it's
the one that won the 'Golden Turkey Award' in its category ("The Most
Unerotic Concept in Pornography"), I kind of assumed it wasn't. That is,
I had assumed that only one of the also-rans would be the hoax film. Then
again, _Him_ *does* have one of the shortest write-ups in the book, and it
*is* one of only three of the award "winners" that does not even have a
photo (the others being _Rat Fink a Boo Boo_ and _Attack of the Mushroom
People_, both of which have IMDB entries, which _Him_ does not).

FWIW, the book _Divine Images: A History of Jesus on the Screen_, by Roy
Kinnard & Tim Davis, which lists all the Jesus films made up to 1992, also
mentions _Him_, but only to say that it *won't* mention _Him_:

Dramatic films that contain only fleeting glimpses of Jesus, but do not
otherwise concern themselves with the subject, are also excluded; among
them, _The Birth of a Nation_ (1915) and _Sparrows_ (1926). Otherwise
unrelated films that use brief appearances by Christ or Christ-like
figures merely for shock or satirical effect are not examined; this
category includes such diverse titles as _L'Age D'Or_ (1930),
_Gas-s-s-s_ (1970), _A Clockwork Orange_ (1971), _The Devils_ (1971),
_Savage Messiah_ (1972), _The Trial of Billy Jack_ (1974), and _The
Visitor_ (1980). Sub-professional, amateur productions like _The Sin of
Jesus_ (1961) and _Multiple Maniacs_ (1970) also are excluded. So are
animated films such as _The Star of Bethlehem_ (both 1921 and 1969
versions) and pornography like _Him_ (1974) and _I Saw Jesus Die_
(1976).

But I suppose it's possible Kinnard & Davis's only source of info re: the
alleged film _Him_ was the Medveds' book, and they just didn't bother to
check and see whether it was a hoax or not.

Oh, wait, here's another web site on this subject:

http://www.truthminers.com/truth/gay_jesus_movie.htm

Michael Medved, a well-known film reviewer, wrote a book with his
brother that was published in 1980 called the "Golden Turkey Awards."
It reviewed bad films. Medved claimed that it was a review of over 425
actual films, but that he had included one hoax and asked readers to
spot it. The hoax was a review of a non-existent 1974 film called "Him"
which supposedly portrayed Jesus as a homosexual. The film never
existed.

I wonder if this is something Medved has confirmed in more recent years or
if this is something the site in question concluded for itself.


Where the above is from
 
According to a thread I found, the faked Medvid film may be Dogs of Norway...

I wonder if the Medved Brothers can be "credited" with originating the concept of cinematic disinformation? Back in their 1980 tome THE GOLDEN TURKEY AWARDS, they concocted a phony children's film entitled DOG OF NORWAY. At least, they did warn the reader that one of the films trashed in their book was a hoax (and provided a bit of a subtle clue by showing "Norwegian Nukie" frolicking with Harry Medved on the intro page, if I recall correctly).

At the bottom of this page
 
Well, I'll be damned. Looks like Dog of Norway is the hoax film.

No IMDB.com listing for the title, director, or Gabby Hayes' appearance in it. Hell, not even a Google listing outside of a Medved-related link. And if that's not the same dog in the movie photo as on the author's picture page, I'll eat my hat.
 
Plus Dog of Norway sounds a bit too close to Song of Norway, another GTA nominee. So it seems that the Medveds thought Him was a real film. Wasn't there an accusation that the Medveds hadn't seen many of the films they discussed?
 
GNC said:
Wasn't there an accusation that the Medveds hadn't seen many of the films they discussed?

Well, in Son of Golden Turkey, the Medveds discuss the movie Varan the Unbelievable and describe the monster as a giant flying squirrel and make a Rocky & Bullwinkle wisecrack. That's all well and good, except Varan doesn't fly! Not in the American print anyway, which is the version they were talking about.
 
If I recall correctly, in their massive Richard Burton slag-off, they make claims that he overacted abominably in his later years, but I'm not sure this is so, he just looked unhappy and tired most of the time to me. Certainly he doesn't shout "EEEEVIIIILLL!!!" in Exorcist II, not in the version I saw, anyway.
 
Well, got this email from the truthminers.com website today after I presented my case for Dog of Norway being the hoax film:

Josephy: I first saw this "ad" last year. I was a bit perplexed until I noticed that there was no dates or times listed. A playbill without dates? I blew it up to read the fine print, but it was unreadable. Let's see, a playbill with no REAL info? No dates and times, no director's name, no actors names, nothing but a title and a playhouse.

I also realized that this was not a copy of an actual playbill, but a gif graphic. If this had been a scanned playbill, it would have, more likely than not, been saved as a a jpg and published as such. Scanning software doesn't save stuff as .gifs for good reason. No, this was created all on its own as a gif.

I finally realized that this was created as part of the hoax. After all, the hoax is continued deliberately year after year. Someone has a definite interest in keeping this hoax going.

I have already done plenty of research on this myself. There have 3 films by the name Him, but none had anything to do with Jesus. This just never existed.

Thanks for the info on the 55th Street Playhouse. It was very convenient and smart of this hoaxster to have used that particular theater.

I'm afraid I didn't understand the reference to DOG OF NORWAY though. I didn't understand the reference to Gabby Hayes either. The well known Gabby Hayes was a bearded, grizzel old cowboy actor who was an early sidekick of Roy Rogers. He was usually comic relief. Hayes died in 1969.

One day, Corpus Christie may be made into a film, but there aren't any plans for it yet.
Cathy Holden
Find out if that email is a hoax BEFORE you forward it!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Hmmm... the ad looks like an ad from the time that would run in a newspaper. And it's not surprising that somebody would find a copy - I actually met a guy who worked at the AJC who spent years cutting out old movie ad slicks from where they had been mounted to make the newspapers back then.

And I think the Dog of Norway was the fake film, I've gotten what I consider sound confirmation that that was indeed the Medvid hoax film.

And lack of evidence for the film's existance is the sticking point - I'll try a few other venues and see what I can come up with.
 
On another news group I frequent, a viewer found a review for HIM in Al Goldstein's SCREW Magazine.

I'm including it here because it helps to seemingly show that the film did exist, but will attempt to use invisotext to lessen the impact of the rather salty language.

From SCREW, April 29, 1974, Page 21:

DIRTY DIVERSIONS
By Al Goldstein

Queen of the Jews

CHRIST'S SECOND COMING

A bizarrely engrossing new film called HIM, playing at the 55th St. Playhouse, between 6th and 7th Avenues, has more to recommend it than some of its mismatched shots, mishmash editing and cheap budget would have allowed. I sat in the theatre next to the delicious Marcia Bronstein, editor of BITCH, so much of my enthusiasm for this film may simply have been the proximity of my thighs to hers. Then again it may have been the vividly poetic photography that loudly proclaimed in favor of cocksucking, ass fucking and other lofty pursuits of this downtrodden group of perverts.

The plot of HIM theoretically is about a foggot who is preoccupied with Christ and constantly has sexual reveries about balling that great Son of God. The plot might have worked, had it been explained to the viewer, but the movie begins inexorably slowly and, for its first 40 minutes, it consists of some solid hard-core in the gay vein and the meaning of the title HIM eludes the spectator. Only deeply into the film does one get the necessary material to permit the audience to comprehend the meaning of the plot. By then it's too late and you really don't give a shit, which is a shame, since so much of this film transcends most of the porno pap that permeates our perimiters.

I thought I had seen everything, but this movie brings in a whole new battery of barnyard banterings, from the opening credits, which are played against a stiff cock being licked by a very pretty white pussycat, to a delicious decadent sequel where a guy fucks a vacuum cleaner with such love that I started to hum, "I want a vacuum cleaner just like the vacuum cleaner that married dear old dad." As they say on Fire Island, it was one of the more legendarily meaningful relationships of last summer, and a blowjob par excellence. Another torrid little scene had a priest jerking off in his confession box as he listened to the tawdry and tear-stained confession of the wandering faggot. The sex on the cross, in particular the graphic anal probings, which is not unlike a World War II boat launching depth charges, was exciting, and, of course, the hot searching lips of Marccia waxing poetic over my body kept me truly excited. At least I thought it was Marcia. Then when I looked down I saw it was the manager of the theatre.

HIM is a hymn to sodomy and the other brazen activities that mark the twilight world of perversity with so much pain and prurience, yet to those who are not so frightened by any blemish on their masculinity and can respond to the heated sensuality of another human being, it's a film that will be innervating and titillating.

Mr. Goldstein's "Peter Meter" Rating of the film, from 0-100 %

I PETER-METER HIM AS FOLLOWS:

INTEREST--POSSIBLE- 60%, ACTUAL-45%

SEXUALITY-
EROTIC POSSIBLE-20%, ACTUAL-20 %

SEXUALITY-
EXPLICIT POSSIBLE-10%, ACTUAL-10%

TECHNICAL-POSSIBLE-10 %, ACTUAL- 10 %

TOTAL-85 %
 
A vaccuum cleaner?! Don't recall one of those in the Bible.

Anyway, good find, and more proof that this film exists and not only that, is very strange as well. Unless Goldstein made it all up and the Medveds were inspired by this review?
 
I've been fascinated by the legend of this film for quite some time. Not that gay porn is my bag, but this is one of those mysterious, elusive, undergroundy things that one stumbles across on the net from time to time that is just so fascinatingly bizarre. A gay Jesus porn movie!? Surely one of the most blasphemous films ever made (if indeed it was made), and as such it is a potential lost piece of cinematic history (regardless of how badly made the movie might have been). It's sort of like the legend of snuff movies, only far less well-known, in that a some people claim to have seen it, others deny it ever existed, and occasional pieces of circumstantial evidence surface without ever actually leading to anything.

I think the Screw article is the strongest piece of evidence for the existence of the film. It's a citable reference, if you can call a sex magazine citable, so I wonder if anyone has actually made inquiries by going through back issues of the mag, instead of just giving it the old copypasta and taking the original poster's word for it. Screw is not the sort of publication you'd find indexed in the Bodlean library, but I'm sure it must be somehow possible to track down the issue cited above and confirm the existence of the original review. I believe the magazine is still being published (although no longer by Goldstein), so I would imagine the publishers would be the place to start.

Al Goldstein himself is still very much alive, and according to Wikipedia he hosts his own blog on "Booble" (an adult search engine). So it may be possible to contact him and ask him directly about what he remembers.

The article also makes note of a second witness; one Marcia Bronstein, editor of Bitch. Now, this is interesting - at first, I though "Bitch" was the same as the current feminist periodical, but a bit of quick Googling turned up the fact that Bitch was founded in 1996. "Aha!" I thought, "The dastard internet prankster has slipped up and exposed his article as a phony!" But, no, the plot thickens: Googling the terms "Bitch" + "Martha Bronstein" turns up just one or two references to a hyper-obscure womens-interest sex magazine that spun off from Screw in early 1974 and only lasted for a few issues, and Bronstein was indeed one of the editors: http://books.google.com/books?id=3ugCAA ... &ct=result

So did Bitch also run a review of Him? Another review in a separate publication would further strengthen the argument for this films existence. The problem with Bitch is that it was not very successful and old copies of it are EXTREMELY rare. Moreover, I'm not sure exactly how many issues the mag survived for - it may only have run for two or three - and it may have gone bust before the April 29th issue (hence no review). Nonetheless, if any of you know any New York women who were a bit kinky in the early 70s, ask them to check their attics for old issues of Bitch - you never know, there could be a whole feature with colour stills and cast interviews for all we know!! :lol:

I have a hunch about this movie. It not really based on anything, so it's not really worth crap, but here it is: I think the film did exist, and the real name behind the synonymous "Ed D. Louie" was one better known to filmgoers than we might expect (some have said it sounds like one of Ed Wood's pseudonyms, citing that he DID turn to directing porn in his later days, but I think that's a little too Urban Legend-y to be true). Whoever it was, they set out to make the most offensive film they could, and possibly succeeded. Around the time the film was supposed to be released, there was a major movement against adult entertainment and porn theatres in New York city (most of which were run by the mob), and the local government were making lists of "obscene" films for prosecution in their attempts to "clean up" the city. Mr. "Louie", or his distributors, aware of the inflammatory nature of the film, decided to only give the film a tiny release in just one theatre with minimal promotion in order to recoup their expenses and then deliberately made it disappear, not just for fear of prosecution but because, whoever "Ed D. Louie" was, he couldn't afford to have his career destroyed and his (real) name dragged through the dirt over a dirty little film.

I have a suspicion that the one and only print of Him probably ascended from this world by way of a blazing bonfire or landfill bulldozer sometime in mid-1974. ;)
 
Excellent research, there! I've reached the conclusion that if Him was going to be found, it would have been found by now, and has been reduced (or elevated?) to the status of urban legend.

If it did exist, I doubt it exists in any form now.
 
gncxx said:
Excellent research, there! I've reached the conclusion that if Him was going to be found, it would have been found by now, and has been reduced (or elevated?) to the status of urban legend.

If it did exist, I doubt it exists in any form now.

Yep, I pretty much concur with this. I think the best we can hope for now is some solid proof that it once existed. I might try and contact Goldstein about it through his blog, but I'm somewhat disinclined to venture much further into the seedy underground of 70s pornography, as it's all a bit too 8MM-ish. :lol:
 
That review sounds awfully.......odd. What were people like in the 70s??? The reviewer seems more bothered by the homosexual acts than the fact that someone apparently included a cat in the film. Horrible. :(
 
Abendstern said:
That review sounds awfully.......odd. What were people like in the 70s??? The reviewer seems more bothered by the homosexual acts than the fact that someone apparently included a cat in the film. Horrible. :(

Yeah, it doesn't sound like a very nice film, nor indeed is it one I would want to watch even if it was unearthed in someone's attic. I'm interested in it simply because its lost, mysterious, and therefore fascinating.

You are right though, the 1970s were a strange time with regard to matters like this - the sexual revolution was in full swing but the new moral boundaries had not yet been fixed. Looking back, people often came across as both tremendously naive (the reviewers attitude to homosexuality, for example) and shockingly extreme (e.g. thinking it's okay to include a cat in a porno). Another example is the rise of "pro-paedophile activism" around the same time; the world back then hardly batted an eyelid to paedophiles marching and joining in at gay pride events, whereas nowadays it would be utterly unthinkable. People think the world is getting more warped and decadent, but I think things were a lot stranger in the 1970s.
 
Uncovered a bit more info on this. As was mentioned earlier on the thread, at one point the (now-defunct) site Pimpadelic Wonderland displayed a newspaper ad for this movie, which has since shown up on other websites and is displayed below:

him.jpg


For years, people have been saying this ad never appeared in any newspapers and is nothing but a photoshop hoax (pointing out the lack of any showing times).

Then today I was browsing the Mesmerize boards and noticed that someone had the bumped the Al Goldstein/HIM thread. Apparently someone's been doing a lot of digging at their local library and come up with this (slightly censored) version that appeared in The New York Times on March 29th 1974:

HIM1.jpg


So now we have an confirmed ad, including showing times, in a reputable and cross-referencable source - I'd say this pretty much proves it.
 
Unless it's a hoax (which sadly is a possibility), you might be on to something there. All male cast, too!
 
Not exactly on-topic, but I find this interesting -

Another example is the rise of "pro-paedophile activism" around the same time; the world back then hardly batted an eyelid to paedophiles marching and joining in at gay pride events, whereas nowadays it would be utterly unthinkable.

- as I remember such a group in Britain, which was called the Paedophile Information Exchange. There were disapproving newspaper articles about them in the early 70s.

I'd like to research the PIE a bit but of course I know better than to Google certain terms! ;)
 
Those paedophiles must have been pretty stupid to set up their own club. You could direct the police to their member list and a lot more people would be sleeping safely!
 
gncxx said:
Those paedophiles must have been pretty stupid to set up their own club. You could direct the police to their member list and a lot more people would be sleeping safely!

Yeah, but technically admitting you're a paedophile is not in itself a crime, it's only if a paedophile plans to act upon his desires then it becomes a police matter. Activists like NAMBLA and the PIF dodged the system by claiming to be against child abuse but believed that "loving relationships" between adults and young adolescents are okay and point to ancient Greece for what they see as a sort of "noble" pederasty (although I'd call it dirty old buggers taking advantage of sexually confused pubescent kids :grrr: ). But of course... they never advocated breaking the law... ohh no... of course not... noooo... never... :roll:

Anyway, my skin is crawling now, so back on topic...

gncxx said:
Unless it's a hoax (which sadly is a possibility), you might be on to something there. All male cast, too!

A hoax is still a possibility, although we could limit that possibility by checking for ourselves the existence of the second ad. Only problem is I doubt there are many libraries in Glasgow that keep 35-year old copies of The New York Times on microfiche. Moreover, as fascinated as I am with urban legends and cinematic weirdness, I must admit to a certain amount of reticence about spending too much of my time hunting down forgotten gay porn films (I'd love to know if this movie exists, but even if I found a copy of it, I would probably get someone else to watch it for me... :lol:).

If we could prove it DID appear in the NY Times in March '74, though, then I'd be fully satisfied that it was a real movie. If this is a hoax, then I think it's a more recent one - it seemingly got very little attention at the time.
 
They reckoned they were exchanging information though, like a porn-swapping club, rather than actually abusing children. That was just about legally acceptable, if distasteful, back then, on the grounds that they were 'just looking'.
Nobody seemed to worry about the fact that the images being exchanged were evidence of abuse of children.

Of course, there were arrests for indecency as the 'just looking' excuse was rubbish. PIE was close to what we'd call a paedophile ring now.
 
escargot1 said:
They reckoned they were exchanging information though, like a porn-swapping club, rather than actually abusing children. That was just about legally acceptable, if distasteful, back then, on the grounds that they were 'just looking'.
Nobody seemed to worry about the fact that the images being exchanged were evidence of abuse of children.

Of course, there were arrests for indecency as the 'just looking' excuse was rubbish. PIE was close to what we'd call a paedophile ring now.

Aye, and the air of a respectable "minorities group" makes it all the more creepy.

Here's the Wikipedia page, to spare you any dodgy Google results: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile ... n_Exchange
 
No, you look and tell me what happens. :lol:
 
escargot1 said:
No, you look and tell me what happens. :lol:

There's nothing graphic in the Wikipedia article. It's basically just a history of the group and the controversy surrounding them. One interesting tidbit:

PIE was set up as a special interest group within the Scottish Minorities Group by founder members Michael Hanson, who became the group's first Chairperson.


Scottish Minorities Group, now known as Outright Scotland, is a leading and respected gay-rights organisation. :shock:
 
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