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#31
In what precise way does this manifest for you?
The reliance on Nazi-oids as villains, and the fact that every character not nailed down by Pullman is depicted as black or disabled.

There are probably more factors, but - as l said- l haven’t read the books.

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I haven't read the books but the Magesterium rules as a Theocracy so it's natural that they would have special police to enforce their edicts just as Islamic States have now and both the RCC and some Protestant Churches did in the past. I believe that Pope Calvin takes power in the books, merging the worst excesses of Calvinism with RCC centralised power. Give me Luther any day rather than Calvin (unless it's Calvin Klein).
 

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The reliance on Nazi-oids as villains
Strangely, totalitarian movements of whatever stripe (and please let's not get into actually the Nazis were socialists) tend to follow similar visual tropes. It would seem odd if this didn't hold true in a world which is supposed to be very close to ours, and not just in the sense of being able to cross between them if you know where to look.

the fact that every character not nailed down by Pullman is depicted as black or disabled.
Now, fair's fair: my question wasn't leading you in any particular direction. This is how you chose to answer it, I'm not putting words in your mouth. All I will observe is that, if you're upset at seeing people on your TV who don't look like you, imagine how plenty of other people have been feeling for decades.
 
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And while we're at it, do the armoured bears themselves have daemons? And if not, why not?

I could be wrong, but I think the bear's souls are somehow incorporated into their armour. In book one Iorek Byrnison is held prisoner and has his armour taken away, just to annoy him. As if he wasn't angry enough.
 

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This week's episode marked time a bit, made sure we were all up to speed, but I was willing them to set off for the North for most of it. Ruth Wilson makes up for a lot, she is just excellent as a baddie.
 

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Episode 4 totally worth it for Iorek going apeshit (bearshit?). The animation of the animals has been excellent overall, smoothly integrated, real Lion King remake level.
 

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#51
Taking a chance, this week's, an episode without Ruth Wilson, but they pulled it off admirably. They seem to be mixing the books up more than I anticipated, but yeah, nice effort. Really getting to enjoy the title sequence:


They were obviously going for a Game of Thrones type thing, and I think they've succeeded.
 

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The reliance on Nazi-oids as villains, and the fact that every character not nailed down by Pullman is depicted as black or disabled. There are probably more factors, but - as l said- l haven’t read the books.
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LOL, it is weird you writing about the Magisterium being Nazi-oid. To me they come across as a purely Catholic version of the thought police. You know, the ones who burned Giordano Bruno, and silenced Galileo etc, but updated for the 19th Century.
 
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LOL, it is weird you writing about the Magisterium being Nazi-oid. To me they come across as a purely Catholic version of the thought police. You know, the ones who burned Giordano Bruno, and silenced Galileo etc, but updated for the 19th Century.
Well the 21st century, as Lyra's universe is on an alternate time-line where the Great War and WW2 didn't happen, or didn't happen in the same way, the technological changes that came out of those wars didn't happen, so some of some technology isn't as advanced (although they've managed to develop some things we don't have).
 

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Well the 21st century, as Lyra's universe is on an alternate time-line where the Great War and WW2 didn't happen, or didn't happen in the same way, the technological changes that came out of those wars didn't happen, so some of some technology isn't as advanced (although they've managed to develop some things we don't have).
Yeah, it's still a steampunk setting.
 

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I enjoyed the books years ago and we saw t'fillum which we liked.
Techy keeps saying 'Oh look, His Dark Materials, not your sort of thing, I'll watch that when you're out!'

I protest that I WOULD like it but it's as if he can't even hear me. Weird.

Although maybe it's because I did Paradise Lost for a degree and lectured him about it when we watched t'fillum.
 
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