History Rewritten: Myths Busted & New Truths Uncovered

[ChasFink]

That's the point of there being a conviction. Once a defendant has been found guilty, the presumption of innocence of that crime is over for that person.

I didn't mean to imply otherwise. What I was referring to were situations where new evidence makes it abundantly clear that the convict didn't do it or that they were railroaded in the original trial. Perhaps the presumption of innocence should be gone, but a presumption of guilt - in the face of new evidence - may be taking things too far.

 

[uair01]

A Russian mathematician rewrote world history — and it is bonkers​

we have had this here before

https://bigthink.com/the-past/anatoly-fomenko-history/

While all that may sound wild enough, we’re just warming up for the main event. The biggest takeaway from Fomenko’s work may be that much of human history was dominated by the Russia-Horde. This force, led by czar-khans such as Georgiy — Genghis Khan — Danilovichi, conquered most of the world. In the process, they built the Pyramids of Giza and inspired the historical fiction of the ancient Roman Empire.

The exploits of Dmitry Donskoy were repurposed to create the Roman Emperor Constantine. In this version of history, Donskoy was not a Russian leader who defeated the Mongols, but rather a leader of the Russia-Horde. In the following centuries, the Russia-Horde accomplished other feats such as sending colonizers to America who began a Christian empire of American Incans.

 

[Mythopoeika]

A Russian mathematician rewrote world history — and it is bonkers​

we have had this here before

https://bigthink.com/the-past/anatoly-fomenko-history/

While all that may sound wild enough, we’re just warming up for the main event. The biggest takeaway from Fomenko’s work may be that much of human history was dominated by the Russia-Horde. This force, led by czar-khans such as Georgiy — Genghis Khan — Danilovichi, conquered most of the world. In the process, they built the Pyramids of Giza and inspired the historical fiction of the ancient Roman Empire.

The exploits of Dmitry Donskoy were repurposed to create the Roman Emperor Constantine. In this version of history, Donskoy was not a Russian leader who defeated the Mongols, but rather a leader of the Russia-Horde. In the following centuries, the Russia-Horde accomplished other feats such as sending colonizers to America who began a Christian empire of American Incans.

Clearly this mathematician is not a specialist in world history.

 

[ramonmercado]

This is more a case of horrible irony/history repeating itself .. a light aircraft that took up the doctor who was in charge of the football team *deep breath* who had to resort to cannibalism in 1972 when their plane crashed in the Andes *another deep breath*, the situation made into the film ALIVE, has crashed during a flight to mark the anniversary .. the pilot was OK, the doctor's died ..

"The memorial match, which has been taking annually place for 44 years, alternately in Chile and Uruguay, is held to mark the match that never happened" .. again, this flight crash was connected to the the anniversary of the crash ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41550526

Society of the Snow: I'm sad to have to report that this film about the Uruguayan 1972 Andes flight disaster.left me cold. These was plenty of action scenes as the plane crashed, tail section fell off, passengers sucked out. Even then the survivors had to face being buried alive by avalanches and watching their injured friends die. Even the cannibalism scenes lacked bite, morose discussions on whether they should devour the dead, I just wasn't impressed by the acting. I was kind of hoping an Andean Big Foot would attack them. I guess I'm too used to Ravenous Style cannibals, Beautiful scenery but there are only so many snow covered peaks you can stomach (along with human flesh). It was also too long, reminded me of another icebound disaster film (in every sense of the phrase), The Red Tent about the 1928 mission to rescue Umberto Nobile and the other survivors of the crash of the airship Italia on arctic pack ice. Verdict: Snow Good. Directed & Co-Written by J. A. Bayona. On Netflix. 5/10.

 

[escargot]

Society of the Snow: I'm sad to have to report that this film about the Uruguayan 1972 Andes flight disaster.left me cold. These was plenty of action scenes as the plane crashed, tail section fell off, passengers sucked out. Even then the survivors had to face being buried alive by avalanches and watching their injured friends die. Even the cannibalism scenes lacked bite, morose discussions on whether they should devour the dead, I just wasn't impressed by the acting. I was kind of hoping an Andean Big Foot would attack them. I guess I'm too used to Ravenous Style cannibals, Beautiful scenery but there are only so many snow covered peaks you can stomach (along with human flesh). It was also too long, reminded me of another icebound disaster film (in every sense of the phrase), The Red Tent about the 1928 mission to rescue Umberto Nobile and the other survivors of the crash of the airship Italia on arctic pack ice. Verdict: Snow Good. Directed & Co-Written by J. A. Bayona. On Netflix. 5/10.

I learned early on that any glimpse of a snowy mountain peak associated with the word 'alive' meant there'd soon be stomach-churning discussions of how best to cut steaks from the bum cheeks of unfortunately deceased fellow passengers.

 

[Xanatic*]

We two have clearly lived very different lives.

 

[hunck]

I learned early on that any glimpse of a snowy mountain peak associated with the word 'alive' meant there'd soon be stomach-churning discussions of how best to cut steaks from the bum cheeks of unfortunately deceased fellow passengers.

Ah yes, the director’s cut of The Sound of Music..

 

[escargot]

Ah yes, the director’s cut of The Sound of Music..

You bastard, I've just had my first stiff drink after a week of Covid.

 

[ramonmercado]

Those Satanic Mills were around earlier than we thought.

The industrial revolution in Britain may have started 100 years before the mid-18th Century assumption, a study has found.

The Cambridge University research reveals a 17th Century surge in people producing goods and a decline in agricultural workers.

Experts analysed 160 million records - spanning three centuries.

Prof Leigh Shaw-Taylor said: "The story we tell ourselves about the history of Britain needs to be rewritten."

"We have discovered a shift towards employment in the making of goods that suggests Britain was already industrialising over a century before the Industrial Revolution," the professor of economic history said.

"Britain was already a nation of makers by the year 1700."

Cheshire archives & local studies
Probate inventories, such as this one for John Booth of Macclesfield in Cheshire in 1697, were among the millions of historic documents analysed

More than 160 million records, including census data, parish registers and probate records from the Elizabethan era to the eve of World War One, were analysed to compile Cambridge University's Economies Past website.

This revealed a steep decline in agricultural peasantry in the 17th Century as people manufactured goods.

Workers included blacksmiths, shoemakers and wheelwrights and networks of home-based weavers producing cloth for wholesale. ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-68730181

 

[catseye]

Those Satanic Mills were around earlier than we thought.

The industrial revolution in Britain may have started 100 years before the mid-18th Century assumption, a study has found.

The Cambridge University research reveals a 17th Century surge in people producing goods and a decline in agricultural workers.

Experts analysed 160 million records - spanning three centuries.

Prof Leigh Shaw-Taylor said: "The story we tell ourselves about the history of Britain needs to be rewritten."

"We have discovered a shift towards employment in the making of goods that suggests Britain was already industrialising over a century before the Industrial Revolution," the professor of economic history said.

"Britain was already a nation of makers by the year 1700."

Cheshire archives & local studies
Probate inventories, such as this one for John Booth of Macclesfield in Cheshire in 1697, were among the millions of historic documents analysed

More than 160 million records, including census data, parish registers and probate records from the Elizabethan era to the eve of World War One, were analysed to compile Cambridge University's Economies Past website.

This revealed a steep decline in agricultural peasantry in the 17th Century as people manufactured goods.

Workers included blacksmiths, shoemakers and wheelwrights and networks of home-based weavers producing cloth for wholesale. ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-68730181

Isn't this more of a redefinition of 'Industrial'? I was taught that the Industrial Revolution was really only underway once steam power was being utilised in order to centralise production of artifacts - mills and mines became able to operate at much greater capacity, therefore drawing in a workforce from elsewhere. People have always manufactured goods, as the population increased (which it started to do increasingly in the 17th century) the need for things will have increased, leading to an increased number of those concerned with production.