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The thread about the film of Hitler dancing a jig inspired me to post this question. A good friend of mine has a photo, which she found in a little antique shop in Paris, that appears to show Hitler, with his gloved hand cradling the breast of a naked woman. It's a very eerie photo that gives me the chills whenever I look at it. We don't know any more about it and have never seen the picture anywhere else. The photo does not appear to be doctored, and it really looks like Hitler, not an impersonator, he is in uniform and he has that unmistakable crazed look in his eyes. Has anyone seen this photo, or heard of it? Does anyone have any information that would help us to determine if it is authentic?:confused:
Thanks!
 
I don't think he had a crzed look in his eyes. But that picture of him on one leg is funny.
 
i've read that the hitler jig film is actually just a series of photos of hitler talking and gesturing animatedly to his generals, which a canadian film company looped to make it seem as if he was dancing (he waves his arms a lot and stamps his foot at one point). when you crop the photos to cut out the other people, whose poses are different in every one, it looks convincing.

also, the fondling bit - haven't seen the pic but i did see a docmentary a while ago about the british secret anti-nazi propaganda unit during the war (not SIS but something similar). they made radio broadcasts and distributed leaflets mocking the regime and supposedly having come from dissenting elements inside gremany. their official artist was a very sweet and well-spoken young english rose who surprised them all by being able to doctor photos in hair-raisingly obscene ways - one, for instance, was a rather unfortunate pose in which hitler was holding a glove near his groin: she painted out the glove and painted in a (realistic but pretty modest!) penis, making it look as if he was masturbating. this sounds like the same sort of thing - his hand caught in a position so that if you paint out the woman's clothes and paint in a breast, it looks as if he's fondling her. hence the slightly unreal look of the thing.

does this ring any bells with any historians out there?
 
Ok, I'm no expert but from what I've read of Hitler I don't think he would have been indiscreet enough to have himself photographed holding a womans breast. As Garrick said very little is known of his sex-life but he seems to have had a scatological bent to this tastes (the shame of performing such acts is what is popularly thought to have driven his niece/mistress to suicide.)

Lets's not forget that sexual propagana was a potent force in the war. I seem to remember reading that the Germans dropped leaflets on allied troops asking them what their wives-girlfriends were up to back home.

However, I could be talking rubbish and it could be real. Here's hoping its worth something for your friend and the more ridiculous anyone can make Hitler look, the better.
 
Blueswidow said:
Ok, I'm no expert but from what I've read of Hitler I don't think he would have been indiscreet enough to have himself photographed holding a womans breast. As Garrick said very little is known of his sex-life but he seems to have had a scatological bent to this tastes (the shame of performing such acts is what is popularly thought to have driven his niece/mistress to suicide.)
There is no real evidence that Hitler was a fan of golden or brown showers (I was trying to think of a tasteful way of decribing such pratices, and that's the best I can do), but that information did make it into a OSS (old skool CIA) file, mainly complied by ex-Weimar Republic Diplomats who didn't have much time for Mein Furher.
On a similar note did anyone read any of the reviews of 'Hidden Hitler', a new bio which claimed that Hitler was homosexual, and that was one of the main reasons for the Night of the Long Knifes - he wanted to purge the Nazi party of its large homosexual element, especially amongst the leadership, becuase he was afraid of guilt by association and possible blackmail, from Ernest Rohm and the like.
 
Thanks for you responses. To give you all a little more info . . . the woman in the picture is very beautiful, with her hair in curls, we think maybe she's a Parisian showgirl or prostitute. She is standing to the right of Hitler. Hitler appears to be seated, but we only see them from the waist up. Hitler's right hand is in basically the same position that it would be in if he was giving a casual "seig heil" salute, and the woman's breast is cradled in his upturned (and gloved) hand. The fact that he is giving this familiar gesture suggests that MAYBE the photo is doctored, that they added the woman to a picture of Hitler saluting, but there are little details that suggest otherwise. The woman does not appear to be painted in; the way that her breast is lifted, and the way that one of her hands is reached around behind Hitler's neck and is holding his left shoulder suggests to me that she really is there with Hitler.
Anyway, please, send more responses. My friend has had this photo for years and has always wanted to have it evaluated. This exciting discussion might just give us the impetus to have it checked out.
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Thanks again!
 
( i apologise for any vagueness in the following but ive got too much to remeber and everytime i learn somic somic else has to fall out of my head)

When i were at art collage we had a lecture on Photography which mentioned the popularity in 1930's Germany of Photography. The loved photos of all sorts includeing porn by the shed load. One Satirical artist worked almost exclusively with images of Hitler. Pictures exist of him shoveling money into his pockets etc. All Photo mantages all very skillfully done. I suspect the pic u have is one of these or one from one of the satirical magazines of the time... historical interst and posibly worth somthing as well..... anyone for gen pics of Britney in comprimiseing positions?.....
 
The Nazis officially promoted a form of art photography which was very similar to their painting. Eg Happy peasants - noble industrial workers - mountain climbers - naked maidens bathing. Duty, health, nation etc.

The Hitler + breast pic has to be a fake. I would love to see a scan of it posted somewhere. Any chance?
 
I think we're going to hold off a bit before we post a scan of it, we don't want to pollute the waters, so to speak, by letting the image out - we all know how quickly things spread on the internet. My friend is going to a local, and well-regarded school of photography here in Santa Barbara (the Brooks Institute) to see what they have to say about it. Once we can determine a bit more about its provenance, the FT site will be the first place we post it.;)
Cheers!
 
I can understand your wishing to take things cautiously. Looking forward to seeing it.

The image will, of course, become public property just as soon as you publish it on the web. Expect many hits as word speads.

But your curious object, the print, will be no less interesting. Somewhere there must be an expert in fake Hilter photos. Somewhere there is probably a collector.

Just a thought here - you might consider calling one or other of the various auction houses. Many of them have print experts. An object doesn't have to be hugely valuable for them to be interested in finding out more - and they are always very well connected. Christies, for example, regularly sell prints. They have offices in Los Angeles.
 
I can solve this mystery.

I used to read the Daily Mirror as a lass in the early 1970s and saw this picture there.
It was part of an article about how the contemporary German theatre was coming to terms with the war. There were humorous sketches and lots of singing and dancing, all sending up the Nazi leaders of 30 years before. That's why the lady in the picture is a showgirl: it's a publicity photo for a stage production.

(As for doctoring photos: I once acquired an A3 poster of Hitler from a magazine and skilfully inserted a real, unwrapped condom into the Fuhrer's hand. It looked hysterically funny to the teenage eyes of my crowd and would have got us shot in another time and place.)
 
This is interesting about the newspaper article from the 70's, but I wonder if it's really the same photo. I don't know what kinds of photos are published in the Daily Mirror, but this image is fairly pornographic. The woman is completely bare-breasted, and not only is Hilter cradling her breast with his hand, but his elbow is nestled into her crotch. Seems a bit racy for a daily newspaper, or to be a publicity shot for a theater company. But I do think this development calls for investigation. Does anyone know if the Daily Mirror has a good archive? :hmph:
 
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Greetings. I'm the mystery friend with the soft-porn photo of the Fuhrer. The Daily Mirror theory is, alas, rather compelling, but I must concur with Rev that it seems a bit outre for a public performance advert. So, plaintively, I would ask the "lass" who viewed the photo in the Daily Mirror to please describe in further detail what she remembers in terms of postions and details, and around what year it was that she saw this photo. It does not all look like it could have been taken in the 70s--it has the distinct photographic aura of '44-'45. And the son of a bitch looks just like an aging, decadent, degenerating Hitler. I do not think the mystery is solved as yet, but of course it is wishful thinking.....Wendy
 
I stick by my version.

In Britain in the early 1970s there were certainly racy images and bare breasts in tabloid newspapers. Indeed, it was this vulgarity which persuaded my mother to switch from the Mirror to the staider Daily Mail.

I was about 14-15 when I saw the article which makes it '72-3.

Hitler is on the right of the snap, looking serious and manic, and his right hand is raised in the 'elbow high' type of acknowledgement salute which he does on film sometimes.

The girl is barebreasted and dressed, as I thought at the time, as a stripper or stage-style dancer.

H's hand is not cupping her breast, it's more as if he was saluting and her boob got in the way! I don't remember an elbow in a crotch but the picture seemed close-up so could have been cropped. She could have been sitting on his lap.

This was a long time ago and I only remember it because it made such an impression on me: my parents had lived through the war and were still very much in an anti-German mode, a bit like Basil Fawlty. Any mention of Hitler (topical at the time as there were rumours of him still alive in S. America) made them extremely angry.


Don't we know any theatre history types who'll know about this?

There would have been lots of publicity photos taken and it's possible that 'my' snap isn't exactly the same as Rev's, but I'm certain it comes from the same source.

And of course, the whole nature of theatre is the creation of the illusion of another time and place.
'Cabaret', anyone?

Anyway, that's all I know and can't add any more to the discussion.
 
Thank you for remembering! Did you ever find out any more about it?

'Scarg, is that the picture you recall?
 
I remember that pose, certainly, and it is as I described it all those years ago - H on the right, raising his right hand in a salute and colliding with the woman's breast rather than holding it.
 
I can't verify escargot1's remembered article as the source for this photo, but ...

... There's more than one such picture.

In 2009, the photo at issue here and another one were posted at:

http://ludebehavior.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... -tits.html

... along with the blogger's claim these _may_ have been WWII era propaganda photos.

NOTE: The blog entry was done on 1 April.

In any case ... I'm confident the guy in the photo isn't Adolf Hitler. The brows are too dark and thick, and Hitler didn't have the mole or dark spot under the left eye as seen on this model (actor; impersonator; whatever ...).
 
I can't be the only one imagining this picture turning up in the Parisian curio shop via a descendant of the Gruber family and with a faint whiff of Artois sausage...

:lol:

TOP comment! :D
 

:rollingw:

Seriously though: 'Allo 'Allo started in 1982, a full ten years after the 'Hitler mit Booby' snaps, when the best we Brits'd done by then of humorously dealing with the war was Basil Fawlty insulting German hotel guests and Captain Mainwearing dealing with intimidatingly dignified Nazis. It was still practically a birching offence to even mention Nazism right through the 70s.

By then the Germans had already made a joke of Hitler and moved on, and they love us and we are long forgiven.
 
Well, Twinkle and Bunty must have changed a lot in between your childhood and mine. :omg:

It was some sort of topical news magazine, I was about 17. Terribly mature!

Looking back, this was in the mid-70s when putting up a Nazi-themed poster would be inviting a kicking from anyone who wasn't a paid-up Skinhead/NF type. What WERE the publishers thinking?
I only stuck it on the wall after doctoring it with the condom. Mocking Hitler was just about OK.
 
It might've been a historical part-work, y'know, The Second World War In 188 Chunky Magazines Full Of Nazi Imagery. Dunno where I had it from.
 
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