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Hollywood Secret Society Of High-Powered Paedophiles

MrRING

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This seems to be an up and coming UL or perhaps is the real story. A few examples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Salva
While directing Clownhouse, Salva, then 29, molested one of the film's actors, 12-year-old Nathan Forrest Winters. The sexual acts were videotaped by Salva, who pleaded guilty to one count of lewd and lascivious conduct, one count of oral copulation with a person under 14, and three counts of procuring child pornography.[1] Salva was sentenced to three years in prison. He served 15 months of the sentence before being paroled,[2] and has registered as a sex offender.
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There were stories at the time that Salva had made the videos for somebody (or somebodies) else but that he never said who those people were. (Though I can't fin proof of that claim elsewhere right now). The idea was that the group of people made sure he got offered more films after his conviction by not telling who they were.

Recently the stuff that Corey Feldman has been saying seems to dovetail into the earlier stories I had read (somewhere) about Salva:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...problem-alleges-child-star-Corey-Feldman.html

Actor Corey Feldman has sensationally claimed that his Lost Boys co-star Corey Haim was the victim of a paedophile who was also a Hollywood mogul.

The Lost Boys actor said he was 'literally surrounded' by paedophiles at the age of 14, but didn't realise 'until I was much older what they were and what they wanted.'

In a special report, 'Underage And Famous' for ABC's Nightline show, Feldman blamed former co-star Corey Haim's death at the age 38 on the abuse he suffered at the hands of a 'Hollywood mogul' he refused to name.

The 40-year-old former child star said that paedophiles were 'like vultures' in the entertainment industry and alleged that the 'casting couch' even applies to children.

The pair were two the Eighties biggest child stars, alongside River Phoenix, and in addition to The Lost Boys, Feldman starred in iconic eighties movies The Goonies, Stand By Me and The 'Burbs.

He told Nightline: 'The number one problem in Hollywood was, is and always will be paedophilia," he said.

'It's all done under the radar... But it's the big secret.'

'There was a circle of older men that surrounded themselves around this group of kids. And they they had power or connections to great power in the industry.

'I was surrounded by them when I was 14 and I didnt even know it. It was only when I was old enough to know what they were.

'They all had either their own power, or connections to great power in the entertainment industry.'

In 2008, the pair who confronted each other on their reality show, The Two Coreys. Haim said to Feldman: 'You let me get f***** around in my life, raped, when I was about 14 and a half.

'So I'm asking you, what did you do when you saw that s*** going down?'

To which Feldman responded: 'I was being molested at the same time... what did you do about it?'

The 40-year-old previously revealed in an interview with GQ that he was molested by his assistant as a child.

Feldman says he believes the trauma of the abuse affected Haim for the rest of his short life. He died last year aged 38.

He said: 'The person that knows who did it and knows who he is is watching right now I guarantee it.

'There's a lot of good people in this industry and there's a lot of really, really sick corrupt people in this industry.

'And there are people that have got away with it for so long that they think there above the law and that's got to stop.'

Feldman, who married wife Susie on a reality show in 2002, said that he would not put is son, Zen, seven in movies.

He is also one of very few stars who won't allow his child to be photographed on the red carpet.

Haim's mother was contacted for comment but told Nightline she refused to respond to anything Feldman had to say. She added she wished he would only talk about himself.

Feldman was not invited to the funeral of his former co-star.
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Not a new story, I know that Shirley Temple claimed to have had unwanted attention from older movie execs when she was a child star in the 1930s, but I doubt it was a network, more that the business we call show attracts pervy power trips at times. I'm sure the prostitutes are never out of work in Hollywood.

Wasn't there a celebrity paedophile scare in Portugal which saw a lot of innocent people arrested? There's even a conspiracy theory in the UK about powerful paedophiles that doesn't hold much water. That can't help in catching the real criminals (who do occasionally include celebs who never live their convictions down).
 
Kind of a tangential case: Dragoncon founder Ed Kramer apparently used the "shooting a film" line to cover up his living in a hotel room with a 14 year old boy:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/09/14/dragoncon-founder-arrested-at-motel-with-young-boy/
Dragon*Con founder arrested at motel with young boy
September 14th, 2011
Author JillPantozzi

Founder of Atlanta’s Dragon*Con was arrested Tuesday for violating conditions of his bond from previous child molestation charge. Edward Kramer was taken into custody after he was discovered alone in a motel room with a 14-year-old boy.

The Gwinnett County News of Atlanta reported Kramer, who launched the popular convention in 1987 but claims no association with it now, was arrested in Connecticut after Gwinnett County District Attorney Danny Porter received a tip Tuesday from someone in Florida whose daughter was filming a movie in the town he was staying. “The woman alleged that Kramer was claiming to be the guardian of a 14-year-old boy who was acting in the film and that he was staying in a motel room with the boy, ‘which is exactly like the allegations in our case,’ Porter said.” He is not accused of molesting the boy, but child endangerment in this particular arrest.

Eleven years ago, Kramer was charged with multiple counts of child molestation and aggravated child molestation. The paper writes, “Three teenage boys asserted that he sexually abused them after dazzling them with action figures, sci-fi memorabilia and celebrity connections.” He had long claimed he was too ill to stand trial for the alleged crimes and was under house arrest for some time until a judge lifted that order in 2008. But accounts from several witnesses in Connecticut say he isn’t as ill as he’s appeared in the past. “The movie is being filmed in a campground, in a fairly rural area,” Porter said. “Mr. Kramer was hiking on the trails, didn’t require a cane, didn’t have his breathing apparatus and didn’t ride in his wheelchair.”

His defense attorney Edwin Marger made this statement to the paper: ”I am more than surprised, I am flabbergasted. As I told the judge today, I don’t know if this was a 14-year-old child or a 41-year-old midget, so until I speak to my client, I’m not taking anything for granted.” The paper says, “Conditions of his bond stipulated that he report his whereabouts on a weekly basis to the Gwinnett County district attorney’s office and that he have no unsupervised contact with anyone under age 16.”

In his latest report to the district attorney’s office,” writes the paper, “Kramer claimed to be staying in Brooklyn, N.Y., so that he could be near his mother in her ‘last days,’ Porter said. However, authorities have since learned that Kramer’s mother died in March.”

Kramer is currently being extradited back to Georgia.
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With Elijah Wood and Corey Feldman’s quotes already out there, prior cases against Bryan Singer having been made and now Anthony Rapp’s allegations about Kevin Spacey this becomes a more relevant topic...

Bizarrely, Rose McGowan, who spoke out against Harvey Weinstein, is now subject to an arrest warrant for drug possession back in January. Why now? Seems to be odd timing.

Sadly the “We all knew about Spacey” nonsense is starting again. How many others do Hollywood “know” about?
 
As had been pointed out many times on the Conspiracy threads, there needn't be an organised 'ring' of paedophiles (or money-launderers or car thieves or any other type of criminals) for concerted offending to be going on. Just a handful of people with similar interests, and enough 'on' each other to keep mouths shut in the event of an arrest, can keep a racket going. They don't need to be paying club fees, swearing profane oaths or wearing satanic robes.

That said, there certainly have been, and we know there most likely still are, groups of paedophiles who victimise young people and pass them around. This happens in situations like sports coaching, on poor housing estates and inside institutions where youngsters are relatively powerless.

Where you have children and young people who are similarly vulnerable but who are also desperate to get ahead and so extra-anxious to please, as in Hollywood, there's bound to be abuse. As has been mentioned, if there are men who want to abuse kids, that's the sort of job they might drift into.
 
I'm going to be pretty stunned if 'My paedophilic assault on a fourteen-year-old boy was regrettable, but you need to appreciate that it was a long time ago and I am gay, darling' turns out to be a cromulent defence.

As ever, try reversing the sex of the victim and see if it still feels acceptable.
 
escargot1 said:
As had been pointed out many times on the Conspiracy threads, there needn't be an organised 'ring' of paedophiles (or money-launderers or car thieves or any other type of criminals) for concerted offending to be going on. Just a handful of people with similar interests, and enough 'on' each other to keep mouths shut in the event of an arrest, can keep a racket going. They don't need to be paying club fees, swearing profane oaths or wearing satanic robes.
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Yithian said:
I'm going to be pretty stunned if 'My paedophilic assault on a fourteen-year-old boy was regrettable, but you need to appreciate that it was a long time ago and I am gay, darling' turns out to be a cromulent defence.

As ever, try reversing the sex of the victim and see if it still feels acceptable.
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Yeah, I've seen a few posters on other forums calling this out. It feels pretty horrid actually to play on people's sympathies like that (how brave to come out) to deflect from something of this nature. Nobody is talking about whether you're gay or not, they're talking about if you're a predator.
 
Yithian said:
I'm going to be pretty stunned if 'My paedophilic assault on a fourteen-year-old boy was regrettable, but you need to appreciate that it was a long time ago and I am gay, darling' turns out to be a cromulent defence.

As ever, try reversing the sex of the victim and see if it still feels acceptable.
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Kind of depends on the quality of the alleged attacker's oeuvre… Sadly.
 
Yithian said:
I'm going to be pretty stunned if 'My paedophilic assault on a fourteen-year-old boy was regrettable, but you need to appreciate that it was a long time ago and I am gay, darling' turns out to be a cromulent defence.

As ever, try reversing the sex of the victim and see if it still feels acceptable.
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They say there's never a bad time to come out of the closet - I think Kev just proved that wrong.
 
James_H said:
Well, Bowie, Polanski and Woody Allen certainly get an easier ride from people than Jimmy Savile.
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Allen's a tricky one, because one person says she was assaulted, and I have no doubt of her sincerity, but another says their adoptive mother abused and brainwashed her kids into believing Allen was a sex offender. So which abused child do you believe? Two police investigations failed to bring up enough evidence to prosecute.

Polanski, however, has been convicted and escaped justice, and has had other victims claiming he raped them, Charlotte Lewis for one (she was in his rubbish movie Pirates), and you'd be hard pressed to disbelieve them. There's no doubt he is (or was) a brilliant filmmaker who has suffered unimaginable tragedies, but that doesn't give you a free pass to ruin childhoods, as seen by the amount of protesters who follow him about.

Meanwhile Weinstein seems to have been a bigger monster than anyone else in Hollywood as far as we know, and here in the UK there has been a culture of sexual abuse and harassment among our politicians revealed, both in Westminster and in Holyrood. And I thought 2016 was a tough year to stay optimistic about the world.
 
I would suspect that Weinstein is far from the only ‘monster’ in Hollywood.

Will anyone speak openly about the others though?
 
escargot1 said:
That said, there certainly have been, and we know there most likely still are, groups of paedophiles who victimise young people and pass them around.
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I've often wondered if this wasn't the case of the famous "Dungeon & Dragons made me crazy" disappearance of James Dallas Egbert III, which inspired the film Mazes and Monsters and helped lead fervor to the anti-D&D crowd. I read the book written by the detective hired to find him, and the real story was that young James was a highly intelligent but gay youth who tried to kill himself in the steam tunnels where they were larping. He left and went to an older gay friend when the suicide overdose didn't work, and from there he was passed between "friends" of the older person until the detective was eventually able to get him released. It wasn't said directly in the book, but I could easily see the possibility of him being used sexually by the folks who had him.
 
MrRING said:
I've often wondered if this wasn't the case of the famous "Dungeon & Dragons made me crazy" disappearance of James Dallas Egbert III, which inspired the film Mazes and Monsters and helped lead fervor to the anti-D&D crowd. I read the book written by the detective hired to find him, and the real story was that young James was a highly intelligent but gay youth who tried to kill himself in the steam tunnels where they were larping. He left and went to an older gay friend when the suicide overdose didn't work, and from there he was passed between "friends" of the older person until the detective was eventually able to get him released. It wasn't said directly in the book, but I could easily see the possibility of him being used sexually by the folks who had him.
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Interesting article about the case here: https://boingboing.net/2014/11/11/the-truth-about-the-dungeon-ma.html
 
Who would have thought that influential men in "Hollywood" would try to co-erce young women and men to do .....well, anything,just because they have the power to make or break their careers.....I really thought this was "Common Knowledge". Wonder how many really good actors/actresses have never made it big because they said "F*** off you old perv". Sure it dos'nt happen, just me being cynical.
 
Two minutes’ Googling reveal that the term “casting couch” was so well-established that it was used as the title of a porn film as early as 1924:

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...gins-of-a-pernicious-hollywood-cliche/543000/

Now we are to believe that all actresses are such naive, innocent creatures that the concept was alien to them. Right up to the point where Mr. Moneybags plied them with drink and invited them up to his hotel suite at 0200hrs. to “discuss lighting angles”.

It doesn’t make it right, but l reckon a lot of ingenues made a cold, rational cost/benefit analysis that attaining their first Hollywood contract would pay for a lot of mouthwash.

Now, when they perceive that their “assailant” is on the ropes, another cost/benefit analysis recommends putting the boot in.

So ladies: are you strong, capable “Hear me roar!” womyn; or sweet, fluffy little bunnies who need to be protected?

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
Two minutes’ Googling reveal that the term “casting couch” was so well-established that it was used as the title of a porn film as early as 1924:

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...gins-of-a-pernicious-hollywood-cliche/543000/

Now we are to believe that all actresses are such naive, innocent creatures that the concept was alien to them. Right up to the point where Mr. Moneybags plied them with drink and invited them up to his hotel suite at 0200hrs. to “discuss lighting angles”.

It doesn’t make it right, but l reckon a lot of ingenues made a cold, rational cost/benefit analysis that attaining their first Hollywood contract would pay for a lot of mouthwash.

Now, when they perceive that their “assailant” is on the ropes, another cost/benefit analysis recommends putting the boot in.

So ladies: are you strong, capable “Hear me roar!” womyn; or sweet, fluffy little bunnies who need to be protected?

maximus otter
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It's not about a cold, rational cost/benefit analysis though. How many other industries have a blow-job as part of the interview process? Artists have often been (and most likely still are) forced to submit or they won't get work. It's humiliating and demeaning.

Tellingly, nobody admires the men who've forced women to participate in the 'casting couch' procedure. To put it simply, the perception is that they can't get it any other way. That's not manly.
 
Well said, Escargot, there used to be a column in Film Threat magazine back in the 90s (when it was still print) called Tales from the Casting Couch detailing the abuses of power back then, and nobody paid any attention precisely because it was regarded as an occupational hazard. If someone has that power to make or break your career, you'll find a lot of people just held their nose and paid the price that was completely unnecessary in the first place.

A lot of the actresses accusing Weinstein and their ilk have been languishing in the "whatever happened to?" file. Now we know what happened to them. They said no.
 
GNC said:
A lot of the actresses accusing Weinstein and their ilk have been languishing in the "whatever happened to?" file. Now we know what happened to them. They said no.
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Which actresses rejected sexual coercion from men in positions of power in the entertainment industry and what are their names? .. it wouldn't surprise me at all that it happened, in fact, I'd be more surprised if it didn't .. and you know there's a 'but' coming .. but? .. I've met women who've been perfectly happy to have sex with men in positions of power to advance their careers and, as unsavoury as that is, doesn't that say more about putting women on pedestals of purity so reinforcing the vulnerable female myth when they agree to go along with that crap .. so who's in the right and the wrong .. is it always the sad bastard male who feels he has to or also the sad bastard female who goes along with it then pretends she didn't have a choice either way a decade or more later ? ..
 
I wonder if all those Playboy Centerfolds who Hugh Hefner shagged thought the sex was a perk of the job, or a rite of passage? Anyway, there have been so many allegations about Weinstein it's difficult to keep up, but I did read Annabella Sciorra and Ashley Judd claiming their careers were harmed by him, there's two for starters.

It doesn't even have to be rape, Megan Fox's audition for Michael Bay to get on the Transformers movies was to wash his sports car in a "sexy" way. Nothing creepy about that, of course.

I think, no matter what your gender or orientation, if you have to use sex to get ahead in your career, then there's something very wrong in that career. It's not about placing women on a pedestal, you don't have to treat everyone like china dolls, it's about simple decency. No, not everyone's a saint, but if being degraded is part of your job, it's no wonder levels of work-related mental health problems are going through the roof these days.
 
We live in a world fixated with appearances.

I (am male) was once unemployed and applied for a few receptionist jobs, I felt I was qualified enough for them.
My unemployment advisor told me he used to be a recruitment consultant in the City.
Said I was qualified enough, but that for such jobs the bosses were men who would contact his employment agency and specify "We need a busty attractive woman of maximum age 26."

I have seen how the money behind industry changes people.
I knew a teenage woman who was into the church, used to spend her spare time reading Psalms, would only dress in ankle length skirts and long sleeve tops.
But she was into singing and got a record contract and next thing you know she was wearing short skirts and showing cleavage in her publicity photos.
 
Victory said:
We live in a world fixated with appearances.

I (am male) was once unemployed and applied for a few receptionist jobs, I felt I was qualified enough for them.
My unemployment advisor told me he used to be a recruitment consultant in the City.
Said I was qualified enough, but that for such jobs the bosses were men who would contact his employment agency and specify "We need a busty attractive woman of maximum age 26."

I have seen how the money behind industry changes people.
I knew a teenage woman who was into the church, used to spend her spare time reading Psalms, would only dress in ankle length skirts and long sleeve tops.
But she was into singing and got a record contract and next thing you know she was wearing short skirts and showing cleavage in her publicity photos.
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There are plenty pf places that employ reception staff that are male (or older females). The last place I worked, the building manager was the main reception/security staff. In another job I had, they had middle-aged ladies working on reception (ex-airline hostesses) and the security guy took over when they were away.
 
Mythopoeika said:
There are plenty pf places that employ reception staff that are male (or older females). The last place I worked, the building manager was the main reception/security staff. In another job I had, they had middle-aged ladies working on reception (ex-airline hostesses) and the security guy took over when they were away.
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What city was this?
Where in the city...financial centre or an an industrial estate/business park in the suburbs?


I have worked in far too many businesses where people were employed because of youth and looks rather than intelligence and ability to do the job well.
 
Victory said:
What city was this?
Where in the city...financial centre or an an industrial estate/business park in the suburbs?


I have worked in far too many businesses where people were employed because of youth and looks rather than intelligence and ability to do the job well.
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Heh yup, the last industry I worked in is like that. People who'll knuckle down and do the job tend to be older and wiser but they're the ones who're ignored by management in favour of the younger lot, who get away with laziness and ineptitude.
 
escargot said:
Heh yup, the last industry I worked in is like that. People who'll knuckle down and do the job tend to be older and wiser but they're the ones who're ignored by management in favour of the younger lot, who get away with laziness and ineptitude.
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Me too. After our last restructuring a colleague said that if you want to know why some people were promoted way beyond their abilities just look at their Facebook friends.
We are now both retired and have both been asked back to train the people who were promoted as they haven't a clue about techy stuff and we weren't allowed to train them at the time because it would be "inappropriate" for them to be given training from someone on a lower pay grade.
Needless to say, neither of us have any intention of going back to train them.
 
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