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Is It A Boy Or A Girl?

Long article:

Tomboy: Girls will be boys
What do you do if your daughter asks to use the boys' loos, or your son wants to go shopping in a fairy dress? Lena Corner gets some gender guidance

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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 57402.html

It also touches on an earleir story on this thread:

...earlier this year Canadian couple Kathy Witterick and David Stocker announced at the birth of their third child, Storm, they weren't going to disclose its sex to anyone apart from siblings. They wanted, they said, to allow Storm the freedom to choose exactly who he/she wanted to be and to challenge any expectations.

Oliver James, author of parenting book They F*** You Up, describes the whole endeavour as plain silly. "Obviously the parents know what sex Storm is, so it will nonetheless guide them because it's unconscious. I have a nine-year-old and a six-year-old of different genders and I struggle to overcome the experiences I had of being a boy with three sisters. My parents treated us differently and I really have to grapple with that to avoid doing the same."
 
Me, My Sex and I

With many people now questioning the belief that there are two discrete genders, this sensitive documentary unlocks the stories of people born neither entirely male nor female.

What is the truth about the sexes? It is a deeply-held assumption that every person is either male or female; but many people are now questioning whether this belief is correct.

This compelling and sensitive documentary unlocks the stories of people born neither entirely male nor female. Conditions like these have been known as 'intersex' and shrouded in unnecessary shame and secrecy for decades. It's estimated that DSDs (Disorders of Sexual Development) are, in fact, as common as twins or red hair - nearly one in 50 of us.

The programme features powerful insights from people living with these conditions, and the medical teams at the forefront of the field, including clinical psychologist Tiger Devore, whose own sex when born was ambiguous.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Sex_and_I/
 
Boy or girl? The parents who refused to say for FIVE years finally reveal sex of their 'gender-neutral' child
By David Wilkes
Last updated at 1:04 AM on 21st January 2012

His fairy wings, pink tutu and ballet pumps suggest this little boy has raided the dressing up box.
But if five-year-old Sasha wanted to wear this every day, his parents would have no problem at all.
In fact, as they are bringing him up to be ‘gender neutral’, they would see it simply as their son expressing himself.

Not that they usually refer to him as ‘him’. From the moment Sasha was born, Beck Laxton and Kieran Cooper have been at pains not to lumber their son with the stereotyping they fear that gender brings.
So they simply called him ‘the infant’ and kept his gender a secret from all but a few close friends and relatives. As he grew older, he was encouraged to play with dolls as much as Lego, slept in a neutral yellow room and was allowed to wear both boys’ and girls’ clothes.

But now that he is five and at school Miss Laxton, 46, and Mr Cooper, 44, believe it will be almost impossible to keep it up.
Last year parents in Canada who refused to say whether their child was a boy or girl stirred up outrage and accusations they were turning their child into a freak.
Sasha’s parents, who have faced their own share of raised eyebrows, are thought to be among the first British parents to speak about this far-from-traditional method of raising a child. They are keen to highlight the issue publicly and get other parents talking about it.

‘I wanted to avoid all that stereotyping,’ Miss Laxton explained yesterday. ‘Stereotypes seem fundamentally stupid. Why would you want to slot people into boxes?
‘Gender affects what children wear and what they can play with, and that shapes the kind of person they become. I start to get cross with it if it skews their potential.’

The process began even before Sasha was born, with his parents choosing not to be told their baby’s sex after scans during the pregnancy. It wasn’t because they wanted a surprise, they just wanted to avoid the inevitable expectations of what having a boy or girl meant.
After he was born, they waited 30 minutes before asking midwives his sex because they ‘did not want to prejudice his life with gender’. They gave him a name that suited both boys and girls and referred to him as ‘the infant’ rather than a son or daughter.

It is only now that Sasha has started primary school that the secret has become impossible to keep and they have started telling the wider world that Sasha is a boy.
Miss Laxton, a web designer from Sawston, Cambridgeshire, admitted that keeping her child’s gender under wraps for so long had not been easy. At her mother and baby group, she said she was regarded as ‘that loony woman who doesn’t know whether her baby is a boy or a girl’. ‘I could never persuade anyone in the group to come round for coffee,’ she said. ‘They just thought I was mental.’

At school, Sasha sometimes wears a ruched-sleeved and scalloped-collared shirt from the girl’s uniform list. But he has yet to encounter any teasing or bullying. ‘Nobody’s ever mentioned it and I would hope that if they actually said something to Sasha, he’d be confident enough to make a good response,’ his mother said.

His father, a computer software designer, said Sasha is aware he is a boy and has been allowed to grow up taking an interest in whatever he wants. ‘If Sasha wants to dress up in girls’ clothes then so be it,’ Mr Cooper said. ‘But we’re not forcing it.
‘The girl’s clothes and fancy dress are for fun at home. We don’t make Sasha go out in girl’s clothes.’

Miss Laxton said her own background had influenced her view about gender stereotypes.
‘My mother’s very sporty and my dad was very emotional. We’d watch The Wizard of Oz and always start crying, whereas my mum would think we were really soppy,’ she said. ‘So it’s always seemed obvious to me that stereotypes didn’t fit the people I knew.’

Dr Daragh McDermott, a psychology lecturer at Anglia Ruskin University, said it was difficult to predict any long-term effects of Sasha’s unconventional upbringing.
'It’s hard to say whether being raised gender-neutral will have any immediate or long-term psychological consequences for a child, purely because to date there is little research examining this topic,’ he said.
‘That being said, the family setting is only one source of gender-specific information and as children grow, their self-identity as male, female or gender-neutral will be influenced by school, socialisation with other children and adults, as well as mass media.
‘As a child grows they develop their own independent sense of self that will include their own individual gender identification.’

Last year, Canadians Kathy Witterick and David Stocker insisted that they would raise their baby Storm as a gender-neutral child.
Of that case, Dr Harold Koplewicz, a U.S. child psychiatrist, said he was ‘disturbed’ that well-meaning parents could be so misguided.
‘When children are born, they’re not a blank slate,’ he said. ‘We do have male brains and female brains. There’s a reason why boys do more rough and tumble play; there’s a reason why girls have better language development skills.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1k5ocXteg
 
Led by the child who simply knew

The twin boys were identical in every way but one. Wyatt was a girl to the core, and now lives as one, with the help of a brave, loving family and a path-breaking doctor’s care.
By Bella English
| Globe Staff

December 11, 2011

Nicole Maines, 14, her twin brother, Jonas, and their parents have traveled a long, trying road.

Jonas and Wyatt Maines were born identical twins, but from the start each had a distinct personality.

Jonas was all boy. He loved Spiderman, action figures, pirates, and swords.

Wyatt favored pink tutus and beads. At 4, he insisted on a Barbie birthday cake and had a thing for mermaids. On Halloween, Jonas was Buzz Lightyear. Wyatt wanted to be a princess; his mother compromised on a prince costume.

When he was 4, Wyatt asked his mother: “When do I get to be a girl?” In the fifth grade, Wyatt’s name was legally changed to Nicole.
One girl, one boy

The Back Story: Reporting about a transgender child

Once, when Wyatt appeared in a sequin shirt and his mother’s heels, his father said: “You don’t want to wear that.’’

“Yes, I do,’’ Wyatt replied.

“Dad, you might as well face it,’’ Wayne recalls Jonas saying. “You have a son and a daughter.’’

That early declaration marked, as much as any one moment could, the beginning of a journey that few have taken, one the Maineses themselves couldn’t have imagined until it was theirs. The process of remaking a family of identical twin boys into a family with one boy and one girl has been heartbreaking and harrowing and, in the end, inspiring — a lesson in the courage of a child, a child who led them, and in the transformational power of love.

Wayne and Kelly Maines have struggled to know whether they are doing the right things for their children, especially for Wyatt, who now goes by the name Nicole. Was he merely expressing a softer side of his personality, or was he really what he kept saying: a girl in a boy’s body? Was he exhibiting early signs that he might be gay? Was it even possible, at such a young age, to determine what exactly was going on?

Until recently, there was little help for children in such situations. But now a groundbreaking clinic at Children’s Hospital in Boston — one of the few of its kind in the world — helps families deal with the issues, both emotional and medical, that arise from having a transgender child — one who doesn’t identify with the gender he or she was born into.

The Children’s Hospital Gender Management Services Clinic can, using hormone therapies, halt puberty in transgender children, blocking the development of secondary sexual characteristics — a beard, say, or breasts — that can make the eventual transition to the other gender more difficult, painful, and costly.

Founded in 2007 by endocrinologist Norman Spack and urologist David Diamond, the clinic — known as GeMS and modeled on a Dutch program — is the first pediatric academic program in the Western Hemisphere that evaluates and treats pubescent transgenders. A handful of other pediatric centers in the United States are developing similar programs, some started by former staffers at GeMS.
SOURCE OF HOPE - Dr. Norman Spack, head of the gender management services clinic at Children’s Hospital Boston.

Suzanne Kreiter/Globe staff

SOURCE OF HOPE - Dr. Norman Spack, head of the gender management services clinic at Children’s Hospital Boston.

It was in that clinic, under Spack’s care, that Nicole and her family finally began to have hope for her future.

The Maineses decided to tell their story, they say, in order to help fight the deep stigma against transgender youth, and to ease the path for other such children who, without help, often suffer from depression, anxiety, and isolation.

“We told our kids you can’t create change if you don’t get involved,’’ says Wayne, 53, sitting in the living room of their comfortable home in a southern Maine community they do not want identified.

They have good reason for caution. Their journey has included a lawsuit to protect their daughter’s rights, and a battle against bullying and insensitivity that led them to move to a new place and new schools.

It has been a hard road, but nothing that compares with the physical transformation of Wyatt into Nicole.

“I have always known I was a girl,’’ says Nicole, now 14. “I think what I’m aiming for is to undergo surgery to get a physical female body that matches up to my image of myself.’’

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http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2011/1 ... story.html
 
Zach Avery: the boy, 5, who wanted to be a girl
When three-year-old Zach Avery told his mother that he thought he was a girl, she assumed it was only a phase.
By Victoria Ward
10:20PM GMT 20 Feb 2012

But as her son became increasingly upset at being referred to as a boy, and expressed a desire to wear girl’s clothes, she decided to seek the guidance of experts.
After months of consultations, doctors diagnosed Zachary with gender identity disorder, making him one of the youngest children in Britain to have the belief that they were born the wrong sex acknowledged by medics.

One year on, five-year-old Zach is almost unrecognisable. With his long hair tied back in pigtails, pink glasses and a collection of dolls, his parents have acknowledged that Zachy, as he is now known, is happier than he ever was.
His primary school has supported the family, informing other pupils that Zach felt he was a girl trapped in a boy’s body and even converting some lavatories to gender-neutral unisex.

His mother Theresa Avery, 32, made the difficult decision to speak out to raise awareness of gender dysphoria, which is classed as a psychiatric condition.
She admitted: “I would love to have my son back, but I want him to be happy. If this is the route he wants to take, if this is what makes him happy, then so be it. I would rather him have my full support.
“People need to be aware of this condition because it’s very common but even many family support workers have never heard of cases in children.”

She said Zach had been a “normal” little boy who loved Thomas the Tank Engine. But towards the end of 2010, he became obsessed with the children’s television character Dora the Explorer and started dressing in girls’ clothes.
Mrs Avery said: “He just turned round to me one day when he was three and said: 'Mummy, I’m a girl’. I assumed he was just going through a phase and just left it at that. But then it got serious and he would become upset if anyone referred to him as a boy.”

She said Zach, who has three siblings, used to cry and tried to cut off his penis out of frustration. Mrs Avery and her husband Darren, 41,took their son to an NHS specialist at Tavistock and Patman Foundation Trust in London and after several months of consultations and observations, a child psychologist diagnosed gender identity disorder.

They said the local primary school in Purfleet, Essex, had been “really supportive” and that pupils had been told that Zach, who wears a girl’s trouser uniform, was simply happier being female.
“He likes playing with his sister’s old toys but he still loves Dr Who too and playing with his brother. And we still put some neutral clothes in his wardrobe if he ever decides he wants to wear them.
“We leave it up to him to decide what he wants to do. If he changes his mind and wants to be a boy again then he does, but if he doesn’t, he doesn’t.”

Earlier this year a couple from Cambridgeshire attracted widespread attention when they announced that they had raised their child as “gender neutral” for five years so the infant’s “real personality” could shine through.
Beck Laxton, 46, and her partner Kieran Cooper, 44, from Sawston, decided not to disclose baby Sasha’s gender to the world so he would not be influenced by society’s prejudices and preconceptions.

The Tavistock and Patman Foundation Trust, the national body for gender identity disorder, said the number of children diagnosed with the condition had steadily risen from 97 in 2009-10 to 165 so far this academic year, which it said may reflect greater awareness. Only seven children under the age of five were diagnosed last year.

A spokesman said the groups’s aim was “to support the young person in their general development as well as develop a trusting collaborative therapeutic relationship in which it is possible to openly explore their feelings about their gender. We remain in contact with young people often for many years”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... -girl.html
 
British mothers join US craze for party cakes that reveal baby's sex
It's pink sponge for a girl … and for some, only the doctor knows the truth until the first slice
Tracy McVeigh
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 28 April 2012 23.21

Rarely can a cake have played such a central role at a party. Wrapped in multicoloured icing, the first slice was cut to reveal – in pink sponge – the sex of Michelle Whitney's baby.

With all her family and friends gathered around, the pregnant 27-year-old was leading a new trend in the UK that has swept over from the US – a party where the sex of the baby is revealed.
Hot on the heels of that other American import, the baby shower, mothers-to-be are picking up on the newest way to celebrate parenthood and tell their loved ones the sex of their babies.

A cake is made with the secret sealed inside in the colour of the sponge: pink for a girl or blue for a boy. "My cousin, who has been my bridesmaid, was leaving for New Zealand and I really wanted her to know what I was having before she went," said Whitney. "I hate baby showers because I didn't want people giving presents to a baby before it's born; it's unlucky and tacky. Then I saw all these videos on YouTube of women cutting open gender-revealing cakes in America and I thought it was a great idea."

YouTube hosts tens of thousands of videos of such parties. But unlike Whitney, who kept the secret of her baby's sex from everyone except the cake-maker until the party, in the US women are having the technicians who conducted the scan seal a note of the baby's sex in an envelope, which is then given to the baker without the parents seeing, so that everyone gets the same surprise when the cake is cut. 8)

"That was too much for me," said Whitney. "There was no way I wasn't going to be the very first to know."

Baker Lisa Finnigan runs Pretty Princess Cakes and Cupcakes in Cheshire. After it provided Michelle's cake, hers is now one of a growing number of UK cake shops catering for the trend, with the special cakes pictured among the wedding and birthday confectionery on her website.

"People are just slowly catching on around here. I haven't had anyone who has done the sealed envelope from the doctor yet, but nothing surprises me any more about what people ask for. It's been fun to do it, though. One couple did it because they both had children from previous relationships and they wanted those children to be involved in the new baby, so they did it for them. Having a big family party and the cake was really nice. I do get why they did it."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... -babys-sex
 
A very unusual case:

East Sussex pensioner to have sex change op

A 78-year-old from East Sussex is set to become the oldest person to have a sex change operation on the NHS.
Ruth Rose, from Newhaven, has spent most of her life as James, a former RAF navigator, and said she has dreamed of being female since she was a child.
Ms Rose has been living as a woman for about three years, and has changed her name by deed poll.

She said her ex-wife and children had not reacted well to the news and it had been difficult for her family.
She said: "They are critical of it and would rather it hadn't happened. It concerns them.
"Naturally children like to feel that they have a dad and he's still there - well I'm still there, but it's not dad any more."

A spokeswoman from East Sussex Downs and Weald Primary Care Trust said gender reassignment surgery would only be considered after "completion of a long and robust process of diagnosis and assessments involving psychiatrists and other clinicians".
She added: "As in the case of all operations, this procedure is to meet clinical needs and would be carried out only if the patient is deemed fit enough.
"We cannot and would not want to discriminate on grounds of age."

Ms Rose said the surgeons told her it was not a difficult operation, and she would heal very quickly.
"I've converted myself over to living as a female completely, and what it [the surgery] is going to do is to remove a few awkward bits and allow me to develop something of a different shape which is more in keeping with the person I am."

She hopes to have the operation at Charing Cross Hospital in London in October 2013, when she will be 80 years old.
She said: "The operation is purely a tidying up arrangement. The true work is what I've done already. I have taken my life into a female gender completely."

Ms Rose said that jobs and responsibilities meant that she had not even considered gender reassignment until she was in her 40s.
"It posed a lot of problems before I was able to say: 'Yes this is definitely it' to a point where there is no going back.
"I have had no negative reactions, no-one being dismissive," she said.

In 2009, the NHS in England conducted 154 sex change operations and Ms Rose said hers will cost about £2,000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-17913771
 
Beauty who beat hundreds of women to final of modelling competition revealed to be a man
Angkookrat Warangnam beat hundreds of women to make it into the final of a modelling competition - and then shocked organisers by revealing she was a man.
10:59AM BST 18 May 2012

Thai lady boy Angkookrat, known as Toon, was one of 200 'women' to enter the Brighton's Next Hot Model contest.
Shy Toon sailed through the preliminary rounds, wowing judges with her deep brown eyes, long dark hair and slimline figure.
After being given the green light by every member of the panel, the Lady Boys of Bangkok star, 26, revealed that she was born a man.

Organiser Scott Woolgar said: "During the selection process it did not cross any of our minds for a minute that she was a man.
"I know a lot of judges showed pictures to friends and family to get a bit of help and nobody twigged.
"When we were deciding who to put through to the final she was on everybody's list. Everyone thought she was one of the prettiest girls.

"The competion is based on approach, looks and personality and Toon has all of that. It is about beauty pure and simple regardless of whether Toon was born male or female.
"We believe beauty is more than skin deep and would be honoured to have Toon in our final."

Bangkok-born Toon, who has performed with the popular touring show for three years, will go head-to-head with eleven fellow finallists on the catwalk next Friday (May 25).
If she is selected by the six-strong judging panel, featuring modelling star Sophie Anderton among others, she will win a trip to Dubai and the chance to star in her own professional photo shoot.

Leggy Toon, who is mid-way through the group's nationwide 'Carnival Queens' show, is still listed as 'male' on her passport, which still features her birth name.
Toon said: "I feel humbled to make it through to the final and to be recognised as a woman.
"I'm excited and nervous about how hard it will be to win the whole thing.
"I saw a couple of beautiful girls when I went to the heats so I know there will be lots of competition. I wil try my best to win."

Lady Boys of Bangkok artistic director Phillip Gandey was proud of his star's achievement:
He said: "It seems like they didn't realise Toon was a lady boy but our lady boys are so beautiful that every day people pass them on the street and don't realise these girls were born as men.
"Brighton's Next Hot Model says it is looking for hot boys and hot girls and wehink Toon is a great contestant."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... a-man.html
 
India woman athlete arrested on 'rape' charges

Police in India have arrested a woman athlete on allegations of "rape"' and charges that she is actually "male".
Pinki Pramanik was arrested in West Bengal state after a complaint from her live-in partner, also a woman.

Police say they have requested a local court's permission to carry out a gender test on the runner.
Ms Pramanik has denied the charges and accused her partner of falsehoods. She has also refused to take a medical test to prove her gender.
"I have undergone numerous tests in my career as an athlete. Why should I agree to more ridiculous tests?" The Times of India quoted her as saying.

Ms Pramanik had won gold in the 4x400m relay in the 2006 Doha Asiad and a silver in the same event at the 2006 Melbourne Commonwealth Games.
She also won three gold medals in the 2006 SAF Games in Colombo when she won the 400m, 800m and 4x400m relay events.

She was arrested on Thursday and appeared in court.
"The complaint stated that the woman athlete was a male and has been cohabiting with her for the past several months with a promise to marry her, but later denied," Press Trust of India quoted a senior police officer in the Baguihati area of Calcutta city as saying.

The Athletics Federation of India said they would wait for the medical report and police investigation before taking any action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-18454262
 
These two are my fave stories when it comes to sex and gender - by favourite, I mean interesting !

First up we have the Batista family studied by Imperato - in which babies appear to be female at birth and are raised as such, until puberty hits, their vaginas heal over and their testicles descend.

http://bodygeeks.com/2011/04/wtf-wednes ... -batistas/

Secondly, Bruce who became Brenda who became David - all because of an accident when he was circumcised when he was an infant, and had his penis burnt off. Studied by Money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/program ... mary.shtml
 
Loquaciousness said:
Secondly, Bruce who became Brenda who became David - all because of an accident when he was circumcised when he was an infant, and had his penis burnt off. Studied by Money.

What a shocking and sad story, I had never heard of this case before. His poor parents probably thought they were doing the best for him at the time....
 
Maviself said:
Loquaciousness said:
Secondly, Bruce who became Brenda who became David - all because of an accident when he was circumcised when he was an infant, and had his penis burnt off. Studied by Money.

What a shocking and sad story, I had never heard of this case before. His poor parents probably thought they were doing the best for him at the time....

They really did. I saw the documentary about it, and basically they were not very well educated and believed in the advice given by the Doctors and Money. Money just saw Bruce as a case study for supporting his theory, and even claimed success in his papers.
 
Richard O'Brien: ‘I'm 70% man'
By Jo Fidgen
Radio 4's Analysis

Rocky Horror Show writer Richard O'Brien thinks of himself as 70% male and 30% female. What exactly does that mean?
Richard O'Brien, writer of hit musical The Rocky Horror Show, delighted in shaking up the conservative sexual attitudes of the 1970s.
His most famous creation, Dr Frank N Furter, brought the house down with his song Sweet Transvestite.

But the show's creator was ashamed about his own long-held desire to be more feminine.
"I was six-and-a-half and I said to my big brother that I wanted to be the fairy princess when I grew up. The look of disdain on his face made me pull down the shutters. I knew that I should never ever say that out loud again."

For 50 years, O'Brien repressed the feeling. But "you can't just put the lid on things and pretend that they don't exist", he says.

So a decade ago, he started taking the female hormone oestrogen - and is happy with the results.
"It takes the edge off the masculine, testosterone-driven side of me and I like that very much. I think I've become a nicer person in some ways, slightly softer. For the first time in my life, I've started to put on a little bit of weight, which I like."

He has also developed small breasts. But O'Brien is not intending to go further and have sex reassignment surgery.
"I don't want to pretend to be something that I'm not. Anton Rodgers, the actor, said 'you're the third sex'. And I thought that's quite nice. I quite like that position.

"It's my belief that we are on a continuum between male and female. There are people who are hardwired male and there are people who are hardwired female, but most of us are on that continuum and I believe myself probably to be about 70% male, 30% female."

O'Brien's idea of a gender spectrum may sound far-fetched to many, but there is scientific research that backs up his position. Cambridge University psychology professor Melissa Hines says there are not two distinct sexes, male and female.

"I think that the research in this field suggests just the opposite. That there is not a gender binary, that there's a range of gender, and there are many dimensions of gender and an individual person can be in a different position in terms of how masculine or feminine they are on each of these dimensions."

Professor Dinesh Bhugra, of the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, offers a different view - suggesting that while people may feel not entirely male, or female, the reality is that they are born one or the other.
"The distinction has to be made between gender and sex. Gender is very much a social construct, sex is biological.
"My guess would be that social notions of gender dictate how we behave."

So, how can one explain the feeling experienced by some transgendered people of having been born into the wrong body and wanting to switch sex?

It has been observed that the brains of male-to-female transsexuals resemble female brains in one region central to sexual behaviour. But it is not clear that this is a cause of transgenderism, rather than an effect.

Hines thinks the male hormone, testosterone, may have a part to play. She has noticed that girls who have been exposed to unusually high levels in the womb tend to prefer stereotypical "boys' toys" like trucks. And they are more likely than other girls to grow up wanting to live as men.

The UK's main gender identity clinic at Charing Cross in London saw 1,400 new referrals last year.
There they are assessed by psychiatrists who will help them adjust to their preferred gender role.
After two years of living as the opposite sex in the UK, you can apply for a gender recognition certificate, which allows you to change your birth certificate.

To qualify, there is no obligation to have changed your body in any way through hormones or surgery. That means you can officially be a woman with a man's body, or vice versa.

Stephen Whittle, professor of equalities law at Manchester Metropolitan University, realised as a 10-year-old that he didn't feel right as a girl.
"It was school races day and there were girls' races and boys' races. It was my light on the road to Damascus - this sudden realisation that I was always going to be in the wrong race."
At 17, he started the process of changing sex. Surgery has left him with what he calls a "mixed body", but Whittle considers himself straightforwardly a man.

This is typical, says James Barrett, lead clinician at the Charing Cross National Gender Identity Clinic. Most of his patients identify as a man or a woman, rather than somewhere in between.
"People who are seeking drastic surgical or hormonal treatment because they wish to live in a socially ambiguous gender role… are thought about really carefully. The concern is that one doesn't want to do anything that's irreversible and then have them in a position where they're not happy."

The problem is, says Dr Barrett, they have to fit in to a society that thinks in terms of just two sexes.
"It may well be that biological findings report that, in fact, everybody's on a spectrum. It's just that the way society works, most people don't think of themselves as on any kind of a spectrum at all.
"The same is probably true of sexual orientation. Most people don't describe their own sexual orientation as being on a spectrum although actually, practically speaking, it very much is."

Official documents typically ask if the respondent is "male" or "female"
Some transgender people do not choose to change their bodies completely, however.

This can lead to complicated situations, such as people who choose to live as women - but who have male genitalia - being sent to jail for sexual offences. Should they be imprisoned alongside men or women? :?

The law is clear that such a woman should go to a women's prison, says lawyer and former MP, Lord Carlile. He was the first to raise the issue of transgenderism in Parliament in the 1990s.

"If somebody goes into a court and is accused and their original name was 'John Smith' and they choose to call themselves 'Jane Smith' they will be tried as 'Jane Smith'. I don't see why what a court recognises should not also be recognised by the prison service.
"Awkward though it is, there are many people the prison service regards as challenging and difficult."

According to Whittle, the UK is gradually removing the requirements for people to declare whether they're a man or a woman. It has already happened with laws as diverse as the Sexual Offences Act and the Road Traffic Act.
He thinks the UK will follow Australia and Spain in doing away with the need to tick a box on your passport stating if you are male or female.

Which box does Richard O'Brien tick?
"I tick the M," he says. "But I would quite like to have Other to tick."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21788238
 
Six-year-old becomes first transgender child in Argentina to change identity
A six-year-old girl, who was born a boy, has become the first transgender child in Argentina to have her new name officially changed on her identity documents.
By Donna Bowater, Rio de Janeiro
12:45PM BST 27 Sep 2013

Luana, known as Lulu, is believed to be the youngest to benefit from the country’s new Gender Identity Law, which was approved in May 2012.
The act enshrines the right to be identified by name and sex as defined by the individual.
As a result, the governor of Buenos Aires, Daniel Scioli, approved Lulu’s application to change her name from Manuel on her DNI, the Argentinian identity card, and birth certificate.
"The government of the province of Buenos Aires has decided to provide a solution to this particular case raised by the family," Alberto Perez, chief of staff, said, according to La Nacion.

The decision was made after Lulu’s mother, Gabriela, wrote to Mr Scioli as well as Argentinian president Cristina Kirchner. She said her daughter identified herself as a girl as soon as she started talking.
"By accepting that my son was not the son I gave birth to, but a girl, I accepted her identity and put myself at her side," said Gabriela, from Greater Buenos Aires.

Lulu, who has a twin brother, was refused the request last December because of her age.
But the Children, Youth and Family Secretary ruled children under 14 were capable of giving consent and cited international human rights in overturning the decision.

Argentinian reports suggested it was the first time anywhere in the world that a transgender child had been able to change their identity through an administrative process without resorting to the courts.

Alfredo Grande, one of the psychologists involved in the case, told Folha de Sao Paulo: “The DNI is like a mirror. If a person doesn’t identify themselves there, it’s not good.
“It was an important fight that we won.”

Cesar Cigliutti, head of Homosexual Community Argentina (CHA), which supported the family, said Lulu’s case was “historic”.
Mr Cigliutti told La Nacion there were “thousands and thousands” of Lulus in their 30s, 40s and 50s, whose parents had not allowed them to live according to their identity.
“They had a terrible life, of self-usurpation,” he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntity.html
 
Ruth Rose, from Newhaven, has spent most of her life as James, a former RAF navigator, and said she has dreamed of being female since she was a child.

Weren't most of the WW2 aircraft reputed to have a special compartment in the cockpit for the crew top stash their ballgowns in?
 
German children can now be third sex
Germany becomes first country in Europe to allow babies with characteristics of both sexes to be registered as neither male nor female
By Matthew Day
1:34PM GMT 01 Nov 2013

The parents of German children born with characteristics of both sexes will be able to register their child as a “third sex” under a new law aimed at sparing them from unnecessary surgery.
The law, which came into force on November 1, makes Germany the first European country to opt for a “third sex” category by allowing parents to leave the box recording gender on birth certificates blank.

Later in life their children can opt of an “X” option when declaring their sex on a passport instead of the traditional “M” or “F”.

As a result of having a mixture of female and male chromosomes intersex people, as they are known, often develop physical characteristics of both sexes and can have indistinct genitals.
German lawmakers hope the new law will remove the pressure on parents to opt for surgery on their child in order to make one single sex clear so they can be classified as a boy or a girl. Civil rights groups had complained that subjecting the child to surgery and making choices about its sexuality before it could decide for itself was a breach of human rights.

Some intersex people who were subject to surgery as a child have complained that the process had left them physically and emotionally scarred.
“We want people to be left alone, especially when they can’t even express themselves because they are so young,” said Andrea Budzinski, president of the German Transgender and Intersex Society. “We have to ensure that no more babies and young children are subject to sex changes.
“The law will also change how we are perceived,” she added. “Before we were just seen as ‘ill’.”

While the law has been welcomed by equality campaigners as a step in the right direction it has also raised a number of legal questions. Konstanze Platt, a law professor at Bremen University, said it was unclear whether existing intersex people can now take the “X” option, or whether two “Xs” can get married or will have to settle with a civil partnership

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... d-sex.html
 
Chelsea Manning to receive military 'gender treatment'

The US military will begin treatment for US document leaker Chelsea Manning for her gender-identity condition.
Defence secretary Chuck Hagel has approved gender treatment for Pte First Class Manning, who was formerly known as Bradley.
The move came after the bureau of prisons rejected the Army's request to transfer her from a military facility.
She is serving a 35-year sentence for leaking classified files to Wikileaks.

Pte Manning has been diagnosed by military doctors with gender dysphoria, the sense of one's gender being at odds with the sex assigned at birth.
Following her conviction in July 2013 on 20 charges in connection with the leaks of military and diplomatic documents, Pte Manning requested treatment including hormone therapy, and to be allowed to live as a woman.

A lawyer for Pte Manning threatened in May to sue the Army if she was not given sex change therapy in military prison.
Nancy Hollander argued the military had an obligation to treat the soldier's "transgender issues", and she would not be safe if transferred to a civilian prison for treatment there.
Ms Hollander told the BBC that Pte Manning had not suffered harassment at the military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, even though her fellow inmates knew she was transgender.

In April, a judge granted her petition to change her name legally from Bradley to Chelsea, and according to a court filing by Pte Manning's legal team, a military doctor at Fort Leavenworth had approved a treatment plan by November 2013.
The US military is required to offer medical treatment to its soldiers, but Pentagon policy prohibits transgender people from serving openly in the military.
Pte Manning will not be discharged from the military until she has finished her prison term.

Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel said earlier the policy on transgender service members should be "continuously reviewed" but has not said whether he believes the policy should be overturned.
A previous study by the Palm Center estimated there were 15,000 transgender US military members and 130,000 veterans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28360034
 
This seemed at first like another fairly ordinary transgender story, but then it acquired unexpected spin-offs:

Boxing promoter Frank Maloney reveals gender reassignment

Former boxing promoter Frank Maloney has revealed he is undergoing gender reassignment and now lives as a woman called Kellie.
In an interview in the Mirror, Kellie says: "I was born in the wrong body and I have always known I was a woman."
She is working with transgender group TG Pals, whose managing director, Heather Ashton, told the BBC Kellie had been "incredibly brave and courageous".

As Frank, Maloney guided Lennox Lewis to the world heavyweight title in 1993.
In her interview, Kellie says: "I can't keep living in the shadows, that is why I am doing what I am today. Living with the burden any longer would have killed me.
"What was wrong at birth is now being medically corrected. I have a female brain. I knew I was different from the minute I could compare myself to other children.
"I wasn't in the right body. I was jealous of girls."

Ms Ashton said it had been a "huge decision" for Kellie to come out.
"This is a big deal for any transgender person but particularly for Kellie who's been in the public eye for such a long time.
"This group of people are the last societal group to achieve equality and to be socially accepted."
Ms Ashton told BBC Radio 5 live Breakfast it could be "hugely difficult" for people to tell their partners, families and colleagues, "to come out and say I do love you, this is who I am, and please accept me".
She said she hoped Kellie's example would encourage others contemplating gender reassignment to overcome their fear.

Boxing journalist Steve Bunce tweeted: "Frank Maloney is possibly the bravest person in boxing. How can anybody give him stick? You have to just smile and say: "Go on girl!""

Kellie said she had never felt able to tell anyone in boxing about her intentions but had been preparing for her gender transition while still living as Frank and working in the sport.
"I thought maybe I can earn enough money that one day I can disappear and live a new life completely away as a female and no one would ever bother me.
"Once you come out of sport you are soon forgotten and that was what I was hoping would happen to me."

She said she was sure she could have done her job in boxing as a woman but her plans now focused on helping others going through a similar process.
Kellie, who has been married twice and has children, said she intended to live as a single person and was now "mentally preparing" herself for the rest of her life.

Maloney, 61, stood as the UKIP candidate for London mayor in the 2004 elections, coming fourth with just over 6% of the vote.
The party was forced to defend its candidate when Maloney declined to campaign in the borough of Camden, saying there were "too many gays" there.

It was one in a string of comments that gay Conservatives condemned as homophobic.
Maloney responded: "I'm not homophobic but in public let's live a proper moral life - I think that's important.
"I don't think they [gay people] do a lot for society. I don't have a problem with gays, what I have a problem with is them openly flaunting their sexuality.
"I'm more for traditional family values and family life."
In the 2010 general election, Maloney was the UKIP candidate in Barking, coming fifth with less than 3% of the vote.

Frank Maloney retired from involvement in boxing last October.
At the time, Maloney said: "Boxing has given me some great times but it's not the same business I grew to love anymore.
"The characters have gone and gradually over the last six months I have realised that I don't want to be involved in it anymore."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28730751
 
I'd caught bits of this on the headlines on the litter tray liners as I went past, and assumed they meant Frank Bruno. :oops:
 
Maloney responded: "I'm not homophobic but in public let's live a proper moral life - I think that's important.
"I don't think they [gay people] do a lot for society. I don't have a problem with gays, what I have a problem with is them openly flaunting their sexuality.
"I'm more for traditional family values and family life."

I'm well aware that being transgender and being gay are totally separate issues, however, those statements do strike me as being hypocrisy of the absolute worst kind.

Sickening :evil:
 
Especially from someone in his previous career - I mean, he used to seem to quite enjoy watching sweaty men battering each other around the ring.
 
Fluttermoth said:
Maloney responded: "I'm not homophobic but in public let's live a proper moral life - I think that's important.
"I don't think they [gay people] do a lot for society. I don't have a problem with gays, what I have a problem with is them openly flaunting their sexuality.
"I'm more for traditional family values and family life."

I'm well aware that being transgender and being gay are totally separate issues, however, those statements do strike me as being hypocrisy of the absolute worst kind.

Sickening :evil:

Some people say stuff like that to deflect attention away from their own situation.
There's also an element of self-denial in there, and self-loathing.
It's often said that a lot of gay people 'protest too much' before they finally come out.
This is quite similar, although the person involved may not identify as 'gay'.
 
The way is see it....

Maloney is perfectly entitled to live her life as a woman.

But she's not entitled to make homophobic comments.

Be interesting to hear her take on it now. I know sexuality and gender are separate issues, but people who identify in any way outside the 'norm' of society still face similar issues when 'coming out' (for want of a better term).
 
It is a known situation that people with gender dysphoria sometimes take up an extreme position within the sex they don't think they belong to. Being involved in a 'manly' sport like boxing and being anti-gay are simply normal parts of the condition - or shall we say one normal way of reacting to the condition.

Joining the forces, as mentioned above, is another not unusual attempt to reconcile the irreconcilable.

Objecting to any offensive comments a trans person might make while trying to deal with their condition is not dissimilar to objecting to the rapid mood changes of a depressive. Pointless and actually rather unfeeling.

I hope it finally works out for him/her.
 
Is it just comments though, or is it trying to impose their prejudices (real or apparent) on others and encouraging others to do the same?

I think I see where you're coming from but tend to be less sympathetic about how people cope with their own lives when they start doing their best to fork things up for other people.
 
Cochise said:
Objecting to any offensive comments a trans person might make while trying to deal with their condition is not dissimilar to objecting to the rapid mood changes of a depressive. Pointless and actually rather unfeeling.

Not if they are said in an attempt to win votes though.
 
CarlosTheDJ said:
Cochise said:
Objecting to any offensive comments a trans person might make while trying to deal with their condition is not dissimilar to objecting to the rapid mood changes of a depressive. Pointless and actually rather unfeeling.

Not if they are said in an attempt to win votes though.


Well, there you come up against a peculiar moral problem. There are a whole range of mental abnormalities, some of which we are no longer even allowed to call abnormal. What do you do if someone abnormal gets elected or otherwise obtains power, and then starts acting out their fantasies? (I'm not sure that's an 'if', maybe more of a 'when').

It may seem a distant connection, but the point you raise is one reason why in my opinion why PC speech actually is more dangerous than being blunt. The regarding of certain terms such as abnormal, disabled etc. as being in themselves prejudiced prevents us pointing that certain abnormalities and disabilities do in fact (or should, in common sense :) ) disqualify you from certain roles in society.
 
Cochise said:
CarlosTheDJ said:
Cochise said:
Objecting to any offensive comments a trans person might make while trying to deal with their condition is not dissimilar to objecting to the rapid mood changes of a depressive. Pointless and actually rather unfeeling.

Not if they are said in an attempt to win votes though.


Well, there you come up against a peculiar moral problem. There are a whole range of mental abnormalities, some of which we are no longer even allowed to call abnormal. What do you do if someone abnormal gets elected or otherwise obtains power, and then starts acting out their fantasies? (I'm not sure that's an 'if', maybe more of a 'when').

It may seem a distant connection, but the point you raise is one reason why in my opinion why PC speech actually is more dangerous than being blunt. The regarding of certain terms such as abnormal, disabled etc. as being in themselves prejudiced prevents us pointing that certain abnormalities and disabilities do in fact (or should, in common sense :) ) disqualify you from certain roles in society.

People who suffer from depression and other mental disabilities need to have unacceptable behaviour on their part pointed out to them. Otherwise they will become even more isolated.

I've suffered badly from depression in the past and this resulted at times in challenging behaviour on my part. It would not have aided my recovery if this behaviour had been indulged. People do not have to tolerate and won't.

Strange outbursts by those suffering from psychiatric disorders may be excuse but if someone continues with them then they will end up socially isolated. In most cases with the proper therapy and if needed medication such behaviour may be modified.

Sadly in extreme cases this may not work.
 
So why does everyone have to get on with everyone else? What's wrong with being a cantankerous old b****d ?

There is a line - we all used to know where it was - it's where you start to physically damage someone else.

I'd argue name calling (in all its forms) is something you have to learn to deal with. PC doesn't stop it, it just changes the terms. And I'd argue it actually is ultimately good for the individual to learn how to deal with insults and bullying, because you are going to meet with both in one form or another all your life. It doesn't get better because its done politely.

And moreover, plain speech makes it much easier to identify anyone with such prejudices or unbalances should they attempt to get in power over us. Currently the way people get into power are trained to spin what they actually mean (what they actually mean is often very nasty) you could be voting for almost anything.
 
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