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Isaac Newton & His Many Interests

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Sir Isaac Newton, fundamentalist heretic, alchemist and scientific mathematical genius sought out and deciphered a hidden code in the Bible, correlated by the mystically inspired dimensions of King Solomon's Temple.

The code foretells the coming Apocalypse and destruction of the World (possibly by God hurled comet) in... 2060 ! :eek!!!!:

At least according to BBC 2's Newton: Dark Heretic programme.

Didn't know whether to post this here, or on 'New Science.'
 
2060? I'll be but a spry 92. Still with my best years ahead of me.

Damn you, Isaac Newton. Damn you to Hell!

What did they draw these conclusions from? I haven't heard of anything like this surviving in his notes, and given the sort of thing that did (tracts on Arian theology, alchemical experiments, and so on) I'd have thought this would have been known about.

Of course, there is some speculation as to what the papers he had burned shortly before his death were, again given what wasn't destroyed, but if they were burnt (and Newton was there to watch them) how would anyone work out what was in them? Has someone found a previously undiscovered notebook or something?
 
Apperently alot of his documentation, like Da Vinci's, is still being sorted and assessed. The more well known bits are of course the bits we're supposed know about him and his work, and not his overriding unorthodox views.
 
anome said:
What did they draw these conclusions from? I haven't heard of anything like this surviving in his notes, and given the sort of thing that did (tracts on Arian theology, alchemical experiments, and so on) I'd have thought this would have been known about.
An unpublished work found recently in an archive in Jerusalem, apparently.

His followers, like William Stukely, hid away much of his work, shortly after his death, because of his dangerous, heretical views on a strictly Monotheistic Universe (No Holy Trinity. Jesus not God, but the Messiah, etc.).

Much of his stuff is in code, Maynard Keynes (the economist) being one of the first to acquire some of it and to start the process of decoding and interpreting it.
 
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Interesting programme though, brought up some genuinely little known stuff about a well known figure, instead of going down the usual well trodden paths.

The reconstructions of the alchemical experiments were fascinating, you can see that people got real results and tried to interpret them, it's just that the way they interpreted them doesn't tie up with our current concepts. And, some of our current concepts are going to look weird in 300 years time.

I liked the growing metals....
 
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Timble said:
The reconstructions of the alchemical experiments were fascinating, you can see that people got real results and tried to interpret them, it's just that the way they interpreted them doesn't tie up with our current concepts. And, some of our current concepts are going to look weird in 300 years time.
I found the way the Bill Petterson's scripted voice over kept emphasising the word 'fraud' in connection with alchemy a bit of a 'fnord' word, mind you.

Even if alchemy had been largely discredited at the time, partially because of its connection to mountebanks and charlatans, it was still one of the foundations of such craft sciences as metallurgy and textile dyeing. Would Newton's contemporaries have seen it as primarily fraudulent, or rather that it was in some way, ungodly, because of the taint of magical processes at work?

One of the reasons Descartes and others, at the time were so busy promoting a new 'scientific' world view was especially because the wanted to separate a philosophy of science from any hint of trying to do works 'in imitation of God' as Newton and the medieaval alchemists had been attempting.

Therefore, Descartes was saying that matter and spirit were separate and distinct, whilst Newton was trying to bring them back together in his crucible. "As above, so below." The theme of "The Great Work"
 
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I noticed that too, the way alchemy was almost invariably linked with fraud.

Yes, there were fraudulent 'alchemists', but there's a lot of fraud in contemporary science too.

And as always in magic(k), alchemy, or science there's a lot that's just plain wrong. Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing what it is, until it up and bites you.
 
It's my own personal theory that alchemy arose directly from Arab metallurgists trying to protect the processes of their trade, which may also have had a semi-religious slant if not all of the preocesses were fully understood or formed within the scientific framework of their time. I think what we have in Europe that Newton was so fond of is a European Christian slant on this itself, with all of the mysteries and codes, etc. making the plot very much thicker. I don't think that the original concept of alchemy was turning base metals into gold - instead I think it was a way in which master metallurgists protected their trade. The fact that precious metals were part of this trade no doubt enhanced the need for some secrecy, but I do get the impression that somewhere along the line mistakes and assumptions have been made which have transformed these things into some great treatise of understanding the forces of Creation.
 
Very interesting programme. He was seriously unhinged though, and seemed to have a major problem with women - all that stuff about "the harlot's menstrual blood" :cross eye :rolleyes: Comes from being a fundamentalist I suppose...
 
That's not really his words - they're alchemical terms.
 
Has anyone kept a count of all the end of the world announcements. There seem to be an awful lot of them. They always make me laugh.

Man is not important enough to be warned about the end of the world. Man just thinks he is important enough and therefore chucks in a wild guess.

Newton was just another nutter.
 
And why should the world end according to the beliefs of a nomadic tribe from the Middle East ;) ? Okay, their god now has a very big following, but still... :D
 
anome said:
2060? I'll be but a spry 92. Still with my best years ahead of me.[/B]
Don't forget life expectancy will be well up by then. Living until you're 120 will be normal! :D
 
Class programme on Newton that was! His penchant for tales of nun-torture and the like... :cross eye
 
One of the very early forms of printed pornography, that.
 
Newton's alchemy manuscript found

Polly Curtis, education correspondent
Friday July 1, 2005


Sir Isaac Newton, famous for his revolutionary work in mathematics, optics, gravity and the laws of motion, had a secret hobby. A collection of his notes thought to have been lost 70 years ago reveal his passion for alchemy and fruitless attempts to turn lead into gold.

His handwritten notes, commenting on the work of other famous 17th century alchemists and documenting his own attempts to manufacture precious metals, were rediscovered in the vaults of the Royal Society and will go on display for the first time next week at the its summer science exhibition.

The notes were originally uncovered following Newton's death in 1727, but they were never properly documented and were thought to be lost following their sale for £15 at an auction at Sotheby's in July 1936. But during the cataloguing of the society's miscellaneous manuscripts collection the notes were discovered and, with the help of Imperial College's Newton Project, were identified as being the papers that had disappeared nearly 70 years before.

Newton kept hidden his occasional interest in alchemy during his lifetime, in part because the making of gold or silver was a felony and had been since a law was passed by Henry IV in 1404. But throughout his career he, and other scientists of the time, many of whom were fellows of the society, carried out extensive research into alchemy.

The text is written in English, but it is not easy to work out what Newton is actually saying. Alchemists were notorious for recording their methods and theories in symbolic language or code so others could not understand it.

One excerpt reads: "It is therefore no wonder that - in their advice lay before us the rule of nature in obtaining the great secret both for medicine and transmutation. And if I may have the liberty of expression give me leave to assert as my opinion that it is effectual in all the three kingdoms and from every species may be produced when the modus is rightly understood: only mineralls [sic] produce minerals and sic de calmis."

Stephen Cox, the executive secretary of the society, said: "Such an intriguing find highlights the sheer volume of fascinating materials contained in the Royal Society's library and archive.

"Our ongoing task is to ensure that the materials we hold are all identified and catalogued. This will allow historians and the public to fully access our great wealth of papers and artefacts from some of the most famous scientists in history. At the summer science exhibition, alongside the many exhibits featuring the cutting-edge science of today, people can find displays throughout the building of the legacy that past fellows have left behind, including these papers from Isaac Newton."

John Young, from the Newton Project, said: "This is a hugely exciting find for Newton scholars and for historians of science in general. It provides vital evidence about the alchemical authors Newton was reading, and the alchemical theories he was investigating, in the last decades of the 17th century. The whereabouts of this document have been unknown since 1936 and it was a real thrill to see it preserved in the Royal Society's archives."


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I didn't think it was that much of a secret. At least not these days.

After all, there's the whole thing about the seventh colour (usually taken to be Indigo), and its significance in Alchemy rather than Optics itself.
 
Newton kept hidden his occasional interest in alchemy during his lifetime, in part because the making of gold or silver was a felony and had been since a law was passed by Henry IV in 1404.
Rather ironic, in that in his later years Newton was made Master of the Royal Mint, and was very succesful in countering the adulteration and clipping of the coinage that had been going on.

(This is commemorated by having one of his quotations, 'Standing on the shoulders of giants', impressed around the edge of the present £2 coin.)
 
Betty Jo Teeter Dobbs has written extensively about the alchemical experiments of Newton. She argues that his death resulted from chronic mercury poisoning as a result.
 
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gwood11 said:
Betty Jo Teeter Dobbs has written extensively about the alchemical experiments of Newton. She argues that his death resulted from chronic mercury poisoning as a result.
Since Newton died at the age of 85 (a good lifespan even today) it's hard to prove that his alchemy had anything to do with his death.

In fact, since lifespans were generally shorter then than now, one might even argue that alchemy had increased Newton's life span!

(Not that I would dream of doing such a thing... 8))
 
rynner said:
(This is commemorated by having one of his quotations, 'Standing on the shoulders of giants', impressed around the edge of the present £2 coin.)
I bet Hooke would be pissed if he knew about it.

Newton's alchemical and spiritual researches influenced his other work as well. Many have speculated that the inclusion of "Indigo" (where most people just see Blue and Violet) was to make the number of colours 7, which has mystical properties.
 
Newton more important than Einstein: poll

Albert Einstein may have made the discoveries that led to nuclear and solar power, lasers and even a physical description of space and time, but Sir Isaac Newton had a greater impact on science and mankind, according to a poll published Wednesday.

Newton, the 17th-century English scientist most famous for describing the laws of gravity and motion, beat Einstein in two polls conducted by eminent London-based scientific academy, the Royal Society.

More than 1,300 members of the public and 345 Royal Society scientists were asked separately which famous scientist made a bigger overall contribution to science, given the state of knowledge during his time, and which made a bigger positive contribution to humankind.

Newton was the winner on all counts, though he beat the German-born Einstein by only 0.2 of a percentage point (50.1 percent to 49.9 percent) in the public poll on who made the bigger contribution to mankind.

The margin was greater among scientists: 60.9 percent for Newton and 39.1 percent for Einstein.

The results were announced ahead of the "Einstein vs. Newton" debate, a public lecture at the Royal Society on Wednesday evening.

"Many people would say that comparing Newton and Einstein is like comparing apples and oranges, but what really matters is that people are appreciating the huge amount that both these physicists achieved, and that their impact on the world stretched far beyond the laboratory and the equation," said Royal Society president Lord Peter May.

Pro-Newton scientists argue he led the transition from an era of superstition and dogma to the modern scientific method.

His greatest work, the "Principia Mathematica", showed that gravity was a universal force that applied to all objects in the universe, finally ruling out the belief that the laws of motion were different for objects on Earth and in the heavens.

Einstein's supporters point out that his celebrated theory of relativity disproved Newton's beliefs on space and time and led to theories about the creation of the universe, black holes and parallel universes.

He also proved mathematically that atoms exist and that light is made of particles called photons, setting the theoretical foundations for nuclear bombs and solar power.

physorg.com/news8437.html
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Yeh, I'd go with that... Top blokes both of them
But Newton by a pinch I reckon. I wonder what the biography count is?
8)
Old Newt did the better science, though.

:p
 
Lament for Newton's sorry figure

Lord Rees has lamented the crumbling state of Sir Isaac Newton's bust in London's Leicester Square.
The president of the Royal Society said the neglected sculpture was a potential symbol of Britain's future decline if science was undervalued.

In a speech to mark National Science Week, he said the fall in popularity of scientific disciplines as school and university subjects had to be arrested.

This was essential for the UK to remain globally competitive, he added.

The face on Newton's statue is horribly disfigured after an attempt to clean it with hydrazine, a chemical compound used in rocket fuel, went disastrously wrong.

Lord Rees, who is also the English Astronomer Royal, urged Britain to value better its scientific heritage and invest heavily in its scientific future.

"If we cannot recognise and celebrate the achievements of our best scientists, particularly in the physical sciences and engineering, then how can we expect future generations to follow in their footsteps, dreaming as much of winning a Nobel prize as of designing a landmark building?"

"We must ensure that to excel and become a world class scientist is an ambition that more of our young people pursue.

"Because if we don't inspire future generations to follow in the footsteps of the giants from our scientific past then Britain could quickly find itself overtaken by those countries that prize science more highly than us, and we would become an also-ran rather than a leader in world science.

"And the rather sorry-looking bust of Isaac Newton in Leicester Square will become a symbol of the decaying British position in science in the future, rather than merely a sign of our neglect of our outstanding past."

Lord Rees was speaking at a "Celebrating British Science" event, which highlighted the outstanding work of five post-doctoral scientists.

He emphasised the need for a sound science education for everybody, not just those intending to pursue a career in science.

"Today's young people, whatever career they choose, will all live in a world empowered by ever more elaborate technology - but also more vulnerable to its failures and misuses. There will be ever more political and ethical choices with scientific dimensions - nuclear power, the environment, and bioethics.

"So, science education is vital for everyone - not just for tomorrow's scientists, medics, and engineers. But as well as making education in science more open to all, we must make it more appealing to the vital minority of talented youngsters who will be the future of science in the UK.

"Our schools and colleges must inspire and prepare them, and our higher education institutions must develop their skills and knowledge, fit for jobs as researchers, technicians and indeed teachers and policy-makers."


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/s ... 809588.stm

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hydrazine as a cleaning fluid? For f***'s sake! What a W*****r...
 
The New Newton: Unpublished Papers

Web address: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 203830.htm


Source: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: September 18, 2006

The New Newton: Unpublished Papers Reveal Lesser-known, But Significant Research Of Sir Issac Newton

Known primarily for his foundational work in math and physics, Sir Isaac Newton actually spent more time on research in alchemy, as well as its interrelationships with science, history and religion, and its implications for economics.


Alchemy, as Newton practiced it in the 17th and 18th centuries, was research into the nature of chemical substances and processes – primarily the transmutation of materials from one type of matter to another. Newton and others conducted experiments, but also incorporated philosophical thought in their attempts to uncover the mysteries of the physical universe.

"Newton's extensive work on universal history (which presents human history as a coherent unit governed by certain immutable principles) provides an essential setting for linking his work on alchemy and his work heading England's mint in the 1690s," said Georgia Institute of Technology Professor Kenneth Knoespel, who chairs the School of Literature, Communication and Culture. "It is not at all farfetched to think of history as a kind of alchemical process that looks to the creation of value and wealth."

Knoespel will present an invited talk titled "Newton's alchemical work and the creation of economic value" at 9 a.m. Pacific time Sept. 11 at the American Chemical Society's 232nd national meeting in San Francisco. The talk is part of a session dedicated to scholarship based on the unpublished manuscripts of Newton, most of which are housed at the University of Cambridge and in the Edelstein Center at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. For the past 15 years, Knoespel has studied both collections -- some portions of which weren't available to scholars until the 1970s.

By integrating the study of these manuscripts, Knoespel determined that Newton's alchemical practice "functions as a translation code for a new language of economics in which an investigation of material-spiritual value becomes transformed into a systematic structure of social value understood through economics."

Newton began to translate his notions of value in alchemy to an economic setting when he was appointed to head England's mint – several years after the 1687 publication of "The Principia," in which Newton described universal gravitation and the three laws of motion, laying the groundwork for classical mechanics.

"Newton moves from an academic research position to a position of considerable visibility within the state," Knoespel noted. "He became the symbol of the stability of the British economy at this time. It is hardly an exaggeration to think of such a move as involving a shift from private research to the broad application of policy formed by decades of private research."

Newton took the new job very seriously, undertaking new research on the history of money and combining it with his work in mathematics, alchemy and metallurgy. He improved the edging of coins, much like U.S. coins are formed today, to prevent people from clipping the edges. Newton also assayed the coins of Europe to determine the amount of gold and silver they contained to help establish England's economic basis.

As the economic system of capitalism began to be institutionalized in Europe in the decades following Newton, many "thought that capital, or value, within capitalism was being mystified in the same way that gold is within its alchemical transformation," Knoespel said.

Furthermore, Knoespel asserted, "I believe that Newton thought by improving the English economic system, he was going to contribute to the ongoing transformation of England into God's kingdom on Earth. A Newtonian approach to matter carries with it a Messianic force that finally grounds itself in natural philosophy that includes an interpretation of human and natural history.

"Newton never makes economic value the sole force that determines history. Instead, the practice of economics is at least twofold, involving both the practice of a monetary system and a conceptual framework that sees within an economic system, the workings of God in time," he added.

Connecting the published work of Newton the mathematician and the physicist with the unpublished work of Newton the alchemist, historian and religious philosopher provides broader insight into his legacy, Knoespel said.

"The history of science has often separated Newton the complex mathematician from the Newton of the Newtonians," he explained. "The purists say: 'Newton is a mathematician and a physicist. Don't mix him up with religion or alchemy because you'll turn him into Harry Potter.'"

But it is this purist belief that for 200 years suppressed Newton's unpublished work in alchemy until the mid-20th century, Knoespel said. "I'm certainly not interested in making Newton into an occult figure," he added. "Newton was profoundly interested in the relationship between physics and religion. That he was, but that doesn't turn him into a magician."
 
I didn't think it was that much of a secret. At least not these days.

It was used as a premise in the 1994 book Newton's Niece, a work of fiction which iirc (it's a bloody long time since i read it) has Newton going both loopy and impotent from mercury poisoning...
 
Maybe Newton was on to something after all...

Changing gold

Gold is not as noble and stable as it has been previously thought. This is the conclusion of an international team of researchers from Germany, France and Sweden who came to the ESRF to study the structure of this material at high pressure. They present their results in Physical Review Letters.

The uniqueness of gold and its appreciation as a valuable throughout history is closely related to its exceptional stability to chemical reactions and extreme pressures and temperatures. Gold was considered as a synonym of immovability and constancy (remember the wedding rings!). Indeed, at ambient pressure gold has been known to remain stable in a cubic crystalline phase to at least 180 GPa (one million eight hundred thousand atmospheres).

Scientists from the Bayerisches Geoinstitut and the University of Heidelberg (Germany), together with researchers from Sweden and the ESRF (France) have detected for the first time a phase transformation in gold using the synchrotron. The experiments have shown that at pressures above ~240 GPa gold adopts an hexagonal-close packed structure.

In order to carry out their experiments, scientists used two beamlines of the ESRF combined with a new instrument at the Bayerisches Geoinstitut. The sample was placed inside a diamond anvil cell, which was then electrically heated externally. This allowed them to study gold at the pressures of the Earth's core, that is, at a depth of 5500 km from the surface.

Advances in high-pressure techniques require standards which are applicable at a multimegabar pressure range. Large pressure and temperature stability of the cubic gold phase and its high isothermal compressibility make gold an ideal material to be used as a pressure marker at high pressure- high temperature experiments at pressures above 100 GPa. The pressure-induced phase transition found in gold at pressure above 240 GPa places a "natural" limit on the application of cubic gold as a standard.

These results confirm the theoretical predictions about the phase changes in gold. "These new experimental and theoretical results remind us that there is no "absolute" unchangeable material, and the noblest of all metals, gold, is not an exception from this rule", explains Leonid Dubrovinsky, main researcher.

Reference: L. Dubrovinsky, N. Dubrovinskaia, W. A. Crichton, A. S. Mikhaylushkin, S. I. Simak, I. A. Abrikosov, J. S. de Almeida, R. Ahuja, W. Luo, and B. Johansson. Noblest of All Metals Is Structurally Unstable at High Pressure, Phys. Rev. Lett. 98, 045503 (2007).

Source: European Synchrotron Radiation Facility

http://www.physorg.com/news90510324.html
 
Newton FTW


Nothing to do with the name, although it as a very good name ;)
 
I think this fits in here.

By Manasee Wagh

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NEWS
The art of alchemy
A new book explores the mystery and symbolism of the early days of chemistry


[Published 8th June 2007 01:26 PM GMT]


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Before there was chemistry there was alchemy. So before there was art about chemistry, there was art about alchemy. For previous generations of chemists, so much of how things work was a mystery, so artwork that featured animals, astronomical objects, and other aspects of nature contained significant symbolic meaning. As time went on, of course, modern experimental methods turned people away from mysticism, and alchemy became a piece of the past.

From Alchemy to Chemistry in Picture and Story by organic chemist Arthur Greenberg at the University of New Hampshire in Durham, published this year, presents the images and stories that emerged from chemistry's early days. The book takes a world view, covering the four primordial elements of the ancient Greeks, the pit-fired colored clay pots of the South Carolina Catawba Native Americans, and modern scientists' discovery of subatomic particles.

Many of the images depict discoveries or ideas that had a significant influence on later generations of biologists and biochemists. "The pictures are really fascinating -- there are some wild allegorical figures," says Greenberg. "When you see alchemical symbolism, you find a lot of metaphor in it. For instance, the modern symbol for the American Chemical Society includes a phoenix and other images rich with symbolic meaning. Other artwork depicts transmutation, a common alchemical concept that requires removing imperfections from metals to attain gold, and symbolizes humans banishing their imperfections to attain grace.

"I'm trying to give a historical context to where our chemical history came from," Greenberg says.

Click here to start the slideshow.
http://images.the-scientist.com/supplem ... 60807.html

Manasee Wagh
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