It's Paedogeddon! (Is Paedophilia Increasing?)

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"Cheese and pizza emojis are being used as a secret code by paedophiles to communicate on social media sites such as Instagram and Twitter, online safety groups have warned.

A group of more than 100 volunteer parents has banded together to hunt down and report accounts using the emoji to signal they are sharing sexualised images of children, in a bid to evade detection by the social media giants.

Members of the parents' group told The Telegraph they often found such accounts sharing images of children taken in family settings such on beaches or gardens, which appeared to have been stolen from the parents’ social media profiles.

The development has prompted a former Government child safety advisor to warn parents to avoid sharing images of their children openly on social media in case they are stolen and traded online.

The group of parents was started by India, a 27-year-old executive assistant from London, who asked the paper not to use her surname, and who stumbled across the child image accounts on social media.

Since then she has set up Twitter and Instagram pages, called ProtectPD, dedicated to naming accounts she finds sharing child images so her followers can report them en masse to the social media giants.

India, who has had direct talks with officials at Instagram over the issue, said the accounts often signaled what they were doing by using cheese and pizza emojis, to represent ‘CP’ meaning ‘child porn’.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...cheese-pizza-emojis-secret-code-social-media/

My opinion: WTF? Cheese and Pizza = Child Porn? This seems a bit desperate, to say the least.

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It really does astonish me that people will put photos of their young children all over social media, not just private ones. A friend took a piccie of his 10 year old grand daughter wearing a tiny bikini which went on some private posting - he was complaining that the outfit was wholly unsuitable. Probably 2 years later the picture was being used as a thumbnail on more than one Russian You Tube site about cars. Revolting. I know of another similar incident - it must be fairly widespread.
 

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The latest post on there is mine, about a lying/fantasising friend I had. She was awful. Probably still is.

When I eventually dumped her she sent me a letter. I recognised her extremely ornate handwriting so I knew who it was from.

Inside I found at least two handwritten pages on thick posh paper. The whole lot then went in the bin with the cat tray mess on top so I'll never know what she had to say.
Definitely the right thing to do!!

Walking away and having nothing more to do with them is the only solution I had.
 

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It really does astonish me that people will put photos of their young children all over social media, not just private ones. A friend took a piccie of his 10 year old grand daughter wearing a tiny bikini which went on some private posting - he was complaining that the outfit was wholly unsuitable. Probably 2 years later the picture was being used as a thumbnail on more than one Russian You Tube site about cars. Revolting. I know of another similar incident - it must be fairly widespread.
I personally don't think you should plaster the Internet with pictures of your kids either.
 

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The latest post on there is mine, about a lying/fantasising friend I had. She was awful. Probably still is.

When I eventually dumped her she sent me a letter. I recognised her extremely ornate handwriting so I knew who it was from.

Inside I found at least two handwritten pages on thick posh paper. The whole lot then went in the bin with the cat tray mess on top so I'll never know what she had to say.
The pre-electronic way to block.
 

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It really does astonish me that people will put photos of their young children all over social media, not just private ones. A friend took a piccie of his 10 year old grand daughter wearing a tiny bikini which went on some private posting - he was complaining that the outfit was wholly unsuitable. Probably 2 years later the picture was being used as a thumbnail on more than one Russian You Tube site about cars. Revolting. I know of another similar incident - it must be fairly widespread.
I'm sure that all of those dopes who are whining about "law and order" are posting their kids and grandkids photos all over social media despite the advice of every law enforcement agency not to do this. Give them a chance to seriously help maintain society and they opt for self-indulgence.
 

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I'm sure that all of those dopes who are whining about "law and order" are posting their kids and grandkids photos all over social media despite the advice of every law enforcement agency not to do this. Give them a chance to seriously help maintain society and they opt for self-indulgence.
Couldn't agree more.
 

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The latest post on there is mine, about a lying/fantasising friend I had. She was awful. Probably still is.

When I eventually dumped her she sent me a letter. I recognised her extremely ornate handwriting so I knew who it was from.

Inside I found at least two handwritten pages on thick posh paper. The whole lot then went in the bin with the cat tray mess on top so I'll never know what she had to say.
I find it very satisfying to put annoying communications at the bottom of the cats litter tray (instead of newspaper) after I have responded suitably to them. Our little cat then gives her own response to them in her usual way. I told the latest company what I had done with their last letter - not heard from them since. Shame you can't do something similar with annoying telephone calls apart from mashing the big red Block button.
 

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I'm sure that all of those dopes who are whining about "law and order" are posting their kids and grandkids photos all over social media despite the advice of every law enforcement agency not to do this. Give them a chance to seriously help maintain society and they opt for self-indulgence.
I nearly laughed myself sick a few years ago when the wife of the then head of MI5 or 6 posted piccies of their home and family all over social media. You've got to be grossly stupid haven't you? Perhaps the guy had to spend the rest of his career locating his wife's braincells, if she had any at all that is.
 

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I nearly laughed myself sick a few years ago when the wife of the then head of MI5 or 6 posted piccies of their home and family all over social media. You've got to be grossly stupid haven't you? Perhaps the guy had to spend the rest of his career locating his wife's braincells, if she had any at all that is.
What a patsy. What a rube. What an ultra-maroon.
 

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I nearly laughed myself sick a few years ago when the wife of the then head of MI5 or 6 posted piccies of their home and family all over social media. You've got to be grossly stupid haven't you? Perhaps the guy had to spend the rest of his career locating his wife's braincells, if she had any at all that is.
MI6.

2009.

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There was a doc about Max Clifford's downfall on Ch 4 yesterday. Several women spoke about the abuse they'd suffered from him & manipulation/grooming when they were minors. His biographer had some revealing tapes which she'd never played to anyone before, with him being quite open & boastful of his sexual antics, though not with minors.

Frequent sex parties over many years, viewing holes in walls, photos of participants, there was quite a substantial list of sleaze. He used to phone his victims, putting on a voice & pretending to be someone else - a film producer offering parts in exchange for sexual favours for example if she was nice to Clifford.

Somewhat akin to Jeffrey Epstein he got away with it for years because he could, & never got to serve the full time for it.

Before his arrest & trial he was vehemently anti paedophiles in his PR work, being a player in pursuing Gary Glitter & others, all the while doing the same things himself. A real piece of work.
 

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There was a doc about Max Clifford's downfall on Ch 4 yesterday. Several women spoke about the abuse they'd suffered from him & manipulation/grooming when they were minors. His biographer had some revealing tapes which she'd never played to anyone before, with him being quite open & boastful of his sexual antics, though not with minors.

Frequent sex parties over many years, viewing holes in walls, photos of participants, there was quite a substantial list of sleaze. He used to phone his victims, putting on a voice & pretending to be someone else - a film producer offering parts in exchange for sexual favours for example if she was nice to Clifford.

Somewhat akin to Jeffrey Epstein he got away with it for years because he could, & never got to serve the full time for it.

Before his arrest & trial he was vehemently anti paedophiles in his PR work, being a player in pursuing Gary Glitter & others, all the while doing the same things himself. A real piece of work.
I watched that. He certainly was not a nice man at all.
 

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There was a doc about Max Clifford's downfall on Ch 4 yesterday. Several women spoke about the abuse they'd suffered from him & manipulation/grooming when they were minors. His biographer had some revealing tapes which she'd never played to anyone before, with him being quite open & boastful of his sexual antics, though not with minors.

Frequent sex parties over many years, viewing holes in walls, photos of participants, there was quite a substantial list of sleaze. He used to phone his victims, putting on a voice & pretending to be someone else - a film producer offering parts in exchange for sexual favours for example if she was nice to Clifford.

Somewhat akin to Jeffrey Epstein he got away with it for years because he could, & never got to serve the full time for it.

Before his arrest & trial he was vehemently anti paedophiles in his PR work, being a player in pursuing Gary Glitter & others, all the while doing the same things himself. A real piece of work.
Thank you, I didn't know about that. :D

Went immediately to All 4 Catch Up and scarfed it for later enjoyment.
 

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It's his daughter I felt sorry for, he really doted over her.
I feel most sorry for his victims but it must be hard knowing that your father could behave like that.

Although according to the programme she tried to get his conviction dropped once he had died but they refused so she seems to believe he is innocent.
 

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I saw this really good documentary which investigated NON-OFFENDING paedophiles, amongst other things. About 7 minutes into program they do it and interview a non-offending one.

 

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There was a doc about Max Clifford's downfall on Ch 4 yesterday. Several women spoke about the abuse they'd suffered from him & manipulation/grooming when they were minors. His biographer had some revealing tapes which she'd never played to anyone before, with him being quite open & boastful of his sexual antics, though not with minors.

Frequent sex parties over many years, viewing holes in walls, photos of participants, there was quite a substantial list of sleaze. He used to phone his victims, putting on a voice & pretending to be someone else - a film producer offering parts in exchange for sexual favours for example if she was nice to Clifford.

Somewhat akin to Jeffrey Epstein he got away with it for years because he could, & never got to serve the full time for it.

Before his arrest & trial he was vehemently anti paedophiles in his PR work, being a player in pursuing Gary Glitter & others, all the while doing the same things himself. A real piece of work.
I knew someone who worked for Clifford briefly. The guy was a real tough nut well used to "dealing" with these sorts of people. He described Clifford as the most obnoxious character he had ever come across, eventually telling him to go s. himself. Clifford threatened all sorts of retaliation, but clearly couldn't do anything, all threats being just bluster, which seems to be a common trait with these characters. And thinking about it, the son of parents' friends had the same happen to him when he worked for Maxwell. Underneath it all these seem to be quite pathetic individuals, with too much power for their own good.
 

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Clifford, so far as I understand it, dealt in the stock-exchange of soap-opera stars, models, television celebrities - all, soon, to be bundled into the category of "slebs!"

His reach did not extend beyond the more expendable politicians. When it did, it must have been licensed.
 

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Some years ago, before Clifford's arrest, I picked up his autobiography for 50p or so.

Having always been a big reader and especially fond of biographies/autobiographies I expected a treat, or at least an eye-opener.

Instead, and very rarely for me, I had to abandon it about three chapters in because he came across as such a loathsome, egomaniacal creep.

A most unpleasant read.
 

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On the recommendation of @hunck I'm watching the Max Clifford programme.
o_O

He really was a prize arsehole.

The book about him I'd tried to read was actually ghost-written by one Angela Levin who recorded about 100 hours of conversation with him.
She describes her shock at his frank descriptions of sex parties, voyeurism, exploitation and so on, then we hear an excerpt of one of the tapes.


Clifford is going on about sex and she's sort of *'gulp* Yes? Yes. Yes. Yes...'
 

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I work amongst some very, very bad people. Many of them would get a mention on this thread.

People often say, "Ugh, how do you work with those people all around you, engaging with them all day."

I say, "I know what they've done. The 50 people you've engaged with today? You don't know what any of them have done."


The ones who are really good at it, generally, never get caught. They are amongst every person reading this, in the most unlikely of places...friends, colleagues, family.
 

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I work amongst some very, very bad people. Many of them would get a mention on this thread.

People often say, "Ugh, how do you work with those people all around you, engaging with them all day."

I say, "I know what they've done. The 50 people you've engaged with today? You don't know what any of them have done."


The ones who are really good at it, generally, never get caught. They are amongst every person reading this, in the most unlikely of places...friends, colleagues, family.
It's sadly far more common than we realise.

I don't know if it is right to say this as it will never detract from the sickening crimes they commit (if they act on their impulses) but to me it's like a type of sexuality.

Like I'd say I'm straight and others gay, kinda thing, their sexual attraction is to children.

I don't think they choose to be that way, just like I don't choose to be straight but it's the way I am.

But that of course doesn't mean that they should act on it.

Not sure I'm explaining myself well.
 

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Like I'd say I'm straight and others gay, kinda thing, their sexual attraction is to children.

I don't think they choose to be that way, just like I don't choose to be straight but it's the way I am
I think that's what the man was getting at in the documentary posted above by @ChrisBoardman. Often our gut reaction to someone saying such a thing is to lash out at them however what they need is support to never act on their impulses.
Below is an article about the parents of April Jones talking about this.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...old-april-jones-call-for-help-for-paedophiles
 

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It's sadly far more common than we realise.

I don't know if it is right to say this as it will never detract from the sickening crimes they commit (if they act on their impulses) but to me it's like a type of sexuality.

Like I'd say I'm straight and others gay, kinda thing, their sexual attraction is to children.

I don't think they choose to be that way, just like I don't choose to be straight but it's the way I am.

But that of course doesn't mean that they should act on it.

Not sure I'm explaining myself well.
A lot of it is opportunity. They want sex and children who are available and vulnerable are easy to exploit.

However, it's not just about children. They'll go for anyone they can get at. Older and disabled people are equally at risk. Care homes can be dangerous places.

Came across this some years ago during research, from t'Guardian:

Hidden plague of sexual abuse grips care homes

It's about how some care workers are actually in the job to sexually exploit care home residents.

This is the bit that that interested me; a statement by Ginny Jenkin, at the time director of Action for Elder Abuse -

'People find it hard to understand why anyone would want to abuse an old person, but someone suffering some mental and physical frailty is the perfect victim: they can't defend themselves, they can't get away, and if they're able to communicate they're probably not believed. What more could any abuser want?' she said.

'It's not about sex, it's about power,' she added. 'There are even pages on paedophile websites encouraging men finding it hard to access children to gain employment at care homes. They say the sex is just as good and there's far less risk of getting caught.'
The sentence I've bolded is what it's about. People who wish to sexually exploit others aren't attracted to them. It's not an orientation like straight/gay sexuality. They just want a fuck.
 

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I must have been 6 maybe 7 years of age, when one weekend afternoon I was lured away from the rest of my playmates, buy a man who offered me bag of sweets - love hearts if I remember rightly.

He promised me that if I went with him, there will be a lot more sweets for me to eat, and being so young and of course at that age you tend to do what Adults tell you to, I went off with him.

The guy who lived in the flat upstairs to us (Mr Warren) was walking home from the pub, and noticed me walking along with this stranger, so questioned the guy, at which point the stranger let go of my hand and ran off.

Obviously I was too young to understand the ramifications, of what would have happened, if Mr Warren hadn’t been walking home from the pub at that particular time.

Scary thought for me now though.

Thank God the pubs closed at 3pm back then
 
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I must have been 6 maybe 7 years of age, when one weekend afternoon I was lured away from the rest of my playmates, buy a man who offered me bag of sweets - love hearts if I remember rightly.

He promised me that if I went with him, there will be a lot more sweets for me to eat, and being so young and of course at that age you tend to do what Adults tell you to, I went off with him.

The guy who lived in the flat upstairs to us (Mr Warren) was walking home from the pub, and noticed me walking along with this stranger, so questioned the guy, at which point the stranger let go of my hand and ran off.

Obviously I was too young to understand the ramifications, of what would have happened, if Mr Warren hadn’t been walking home from the pub at that particular time.

Scary thought for me now though.

Thank God the pubs closed at 3pm back then
Great work there from Mr Warren! :D
 
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