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Jacques Vallee: His Work; His Books; His Views

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Those of us who have studied UFOs for many years are familiar with the
researcher Dr. Jacques Vallee, who wrote ground-breaking books on the
subject such as Passport to Magonia. Vallee retired from the UFO world
about 10 years ago for unknown reasons, perhaps due to fatigue brought
on by UFO infighting, perhaps due to frustration with being a rigorous
scientist in a field known for its second-rate science that is scorned
by the media and the scientific establishment. Now he’s back with an
introduction to the new edition of Richard Dolan’s book, UFOs and the
National Security State. To have an introduction by Jacques Vallee is a
great honor for Dolan and means that his book is seen as important by a
scientist who has done some of the most important work in the field.


16-Jul-2002
UFOs and the National Security State by Jacques Vallee

The important book you are about to read (“UFOs and the National
Security State” by Richard Dolan) is the first comprehensive study of
the U.S. Government's response to the intrusion of UFO phenomena in
American skies over the last 50 years. While several historical studies
of the controversies surrounding the reports have been conducted, the
military and intelligence implications have, until now, remained in a
state of confusion.

As a longtime student of the phenomenon I can testify to the complexity
of the data Richard Dolan had to decipher. The U.S. Air Force itself,
overtly the main contender in thisdrama, never attempted to compile a
comprehensive history of its own files on the matter. When I reviewed
the 11,000 cases in the Air Force files between 1963 and 1967, the
military had no index of that data. The most cogent participants, such
as Captain Edward Ruppelt and professor J.Allen Hynek, did write about
what they had done but they left many undocumented areas. Interested
outsiders picked up the pieces of the various projects, and presented
personal interpretations of what had happened. Understandably, the
result was a vibrant melange of facts, fiction and subjective
interpretations, which has led to the wildly conflicting theories the
media love to exploit.

Even the White House was unable to reconstruct the full picture when
President Jimmy Carter instructed Nasa to undertake a review UFO
information in the late seventies. A Washington wag described the space
agency’s reaction to this presidential order as “a flurry of alarmed
paralysis.” At the height of the Carter effort a small group of us from
various research institutes and universities volunteered to help. I
vividly recall a meeting I had with a high-level official at the Office
of Science and Technology Policy, across the street from the White House
in September 1977. I tried to convey to him that we had experts all
across the U.S. who were ready, willing and able to get involved in
Nasa’s review of the phenomenon if they were given a green light. He
listened to me sympathetically but expressed discouragement about what
he saw as “an impossible political situation.” Discussion turned to the
fact that the CIA and the Air Force, as well as several other agencies,
must have entire file cabinets filled with reports from their own
people, if only because the phenomenon is known to trigger the kinds of
sensors that have been deployed to detect enemy threats during the Cold
War. I was told there was plenty of data all right, collected by the
military and intelligence community, but it “never saw the light of
day.” The White House might force some of it to be released, he told me,
but that might not advance the problem: “Those guys twist everything to
suit their own political schemes. It’s like pulling teeth to get data,
and you never know if they tell you the truth.”

It is in this murky world of deception and confusion that Richard Dolan
has now cast a welcome light. But it will take a sustained effort along
the lines he has pioneered if we hope to validate the facts, uncover the
motives, and reconstruct the patterns. In order to conduct this analysis
it is very important to take notice of what is NOT there: The missing
parts of the overall puzzle. What is not there constitutes a world of
heroic complexity and immense proportion.

I had a vivid example of this fact, on a much smaller scale, when I
unearthed a secret letter from a Battelle scientist named Cross, who had
written to the CIA at the time of theRobertson panel in 1953. (I have
referred to this document in my previous books as the “Pentacle
Memorandum”). To this day there are ufologists who claim the letter was
unimportant. Yet there are indications it may represent the point of
major bifurcation when the most serious part of the official study
plunged underground while Blue Book continued as a public relations
exercise, the visible effort by the military to gather UFO reports from
American citizens.

The experience of tracking down that single document makes me appreciate
the delicate nature and the sheer difficulty of the task undertaken by
Richard Dolan in compiling the present book.

The Cross letter was significant because it implied that a group of
specialists working in the shadows on the most massive UFO study to date
had the power to keep critical information from a prestigious national
security panel. Furthermore they had another plan, a brilliant project
of far-reaching implication, which they proposed to implement as a way
of getting to the heart of the phenomenon. I had a copy of that letter.
It was stamped Secret. I knew its exact origin. Yet all the efforts I
made to unearth an official copy from the Air Force or the National
Archives through the Freedom of Information Act failed to yield results.
It is finally through Congress that I obtained clearance to release the
text. The process has given me a sobering view of the ability of the
bureaucracy to hide the truth for decades, occasionally using the
colorful community of UFO believers itself as an unwitting tool as it
covered its tracks. To this day I am convinced that historians of the
phenomenon have remained blind to some of the implications. It is my
hope that books like the present one can stimulate a renewed effort to
get at the truth.

Like the “missing mass” that astronomers are trying to locate in the far
reaches of our universe, the UFO phenomenon rests on an ocean of dark
matter, deep secrets, and forgotten wars fought only in shadows. Not all
of it had to do with the kind of objects the American public imagines
UFOs to be. Some of the warriors seem to have understood, early on, that
if UFOs existed as a genuine new phenomenon of intelligent origin, this
fact did not necessarily mean they were from outer space. And other
warriors may have decided that the belief in the reality of UFOs could
be twisted, exploited, and bent to obscure political ends. They may have
planted false UFO stories to hide real experiments. They may have
disguised helicopters as flying saucers, or lied to witnesses at sites
where advanced prototypes had crashed, never to be divulged again. No
wonder even White House officials get confused when they try, years
later, to reassemble the facts.

As we ponder the implications we are led, inexorably, to a much larger
issue. As anyone learns who has become a naturalized United States
citizen, the rock upon which American democracy is built is “an informed
citizenry.” Without full information, how would you know how to vote?
And if you didn’t know how to vote, could you still pretend you lived in
a democracy?

In the last fifty years the various branches of the military and
intelligence community in the United States have so clouded the reports
of the UFO phenomenon that the citizenry has been left not just
uninformed but indeed disinformed. This may not have been the intent,
but it is indeed the result. Those who truly care about democracy are
justified in asking that the government come clean about what it knows,
and – most importantly perhaps – what it doesn’t know about a phenomenon
of such far-reaching consequences for our science and our society.

All efforts to break open the mystery so far have made the assumption
that the “big secret” merely involves extraterrestrial spacecraft put
together with metal and rivets. This partial view is supported by the
many instances in which UFOs have been seen by pilots, photographed, and
tracked on radar. Yet modern physical theory opens up a much wider,
richer spectrum of hypotheses for objects that might blink in and out of
perception, impact the consciousness of witnesses, accelerate without
creating sonic booms, change shape and merge with one another
dynamically. Concepts of higher dimensionality, once on the fringes of
physics, have entered the mainstream of science. Given what we know
about the universe today, it is irrational to assume it can be described
with only three dimensions of space and one dimension of time.

The UFO witnesses are telling us they have experienced objects of vast
complexity that challenged their sense of reality. Such observations are
anomalous in the narrow sense of the classical physics we learn in
school, but they may help build a conceptual framework for the physics
of the twenty-first century. It is all the more important then, as
Richard Dolan points out, to make a precise assessment of what the most
reliable witnesses have observed, and to seriously start looking for the
missing parts of this famous puzzle. UFOs have been with us since the
beginning of recorded history. Could they be trying to tell us who we
are, and what true place we are destined to occupy in the universe?


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"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts,
foreign ideas, alien philosophies and competitive values. For a nation
that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an
open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
-- President John F. Kennedy
 
Some info from UFO Dictionary
(Bold emphasis is mine.)

Vallee, Dr Jacques
Jacques Vallee was born in France were he learned astrophysics. Valle worked as an investigator in computer networking projects on the Department of Defense. In 1962 Vallee moved to the United States were he studied at the Nortwestern University and in 1967 he recieved his Ph.D in computer science. At this time Valle got to know Dr J. Allen Hynek and became a close associate to him. In 1973 Valle started the CUFOS with Dr J. Allen Hynek. later reshaped the Hynek Classification System to his own Vallee Classification System. Now Valle lives in San Francisco with his wife and two children. Valle got his interest in the UFO phenomena when he witnessed the destruction of tracking tapes at a major observatory. The tapes showed an unknown object orbiting the earth. Vallee has done many trips all over the world in his investigations into the UFO phenomena. Except that Valle has been all over the United States he has been to Scotland, France, Brazil, Australia and Russia. Vallee belives that UFOs come from both a physical and psychic origin and that some folklore creatures like the elves originated from aliens. In Steven Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the Third Kind Jaques Vallee served as a model for the character of the French scientist played by Francois Truffaut. Vallee has written the following books: Anatomy Of A Phenomenon: Unidentified Objects In Space (1974), Confrontations: A Scientist's Search For Alien Contact (1990), Dimensions: A Casebook Of Alien Contact (1988), Fastwalker (1996), Forbidden Science Journal, Forbidden Science : Journals 1957-1969 (1996), Messengers Of Deception: Ufo Contacts And Cults. (1979), Passport To Magonia: From Folklore To Flying Saucers (1969), Revelations: Alien Contact And Human Deception (1991) and the Ufo Chronicles Of The Soviet Union: A Cosmic Samizdat (1992).
 
Here goes the alternate reality thing again...

I would have SWORN that Vallee died in the early 90's.
I even remember discussing this with someone who was
reading one of his books.

I'd better have my family take the car keys
away before I really become a danger to myself
and others! ;)

TVgeek
 
TVgeek said:
I would have SWORN that Vallee died in the early 90's.
I even remember discussing this with someone who was
reading one of his books.
I rather thought that too, which is why I tried searching for a bio on him.

Didn't find any evidence he'd died, however!

He's probably 5 or so years older than myself, though, so he must be vulnerable!
 
p.younger said:
Can this be the highly respected Jacques Vallee?

That's him allright. After many years in Computer Information he finally decided to use it to make a better living and went into investing in tech companies as the bio said.
He has always been interested in alchemy and Rosicrucian ideas as transformative disciplines.
I think he's tired of all the bullshit surrounding the ufo phenomenon so he took a break from it for awhile. I was lucky enough to have his e-mail address at one time and I wrote him about his current speaking tours(this was about 15yrs ago) and he said he was not actively pursuing the ufo enigma as it had declined into a bunch of squabbling among fools.
 
I believe Dr. Vallee is still on the advisory board of the National Institute of Discovery Science in Nevada.They look into anomalous aerial phenomena,among other things.
 
Major Kraut said:
I believe Dr. Vallee is still on the advisory board of the National Institute of Discovery Science in Nevada.They look into anomalous aerial phenomena,among other things.

He is listed as an advisor as you pointed out.....
http://www.nidsci.org
 
TVgeek said:
Here goes the alternate reality thing again...

I would have SWORN that Vallee died in the early 90's.

TVgeek

Me too! I was convinced he'd died, not long after Hynek. Glad he's still among us - UFOlogy could do with someone like him back again, cos IMHO it's still spinning somewhat eliptically (pardon the pun) even in the aftermath of HJM.

Vallee spoke as he saw, not as he thought he saw. Important difference, and Jerome Clark can't keep it going on his own forever....
 
Stu Neville said:
Me too! I was convinced he'd died, not long after Hynek. Glad he's still among us - UFOlogy could do with someone like him back again, cos IMHO it's still spinning somewhat eliptically (pardon the pun) even in the aftermath of HJM.

Vallee spoke as he saw, not as he thought he saw. Important difference, and Jerome Clark can't keep it going on his own forever....

I think his books should be required reading for anyone seriously interested in the ufo enigma. ;)....particularly, Messengers Of Deception, Invisible College, Passport To Magonia and Dimensions.
BTW, has anyone read his recent novel called ' Fastwalker'...?
 
It's too bad ufology here in the U.S. is so dominated by the"true believers"in the E.T.H.Vallee's ideas have never gotten wide circulation,I believe,because he has always been almost completely ignored by the media.They would much rather keep beating the twin dead horses of abductions and Roswell.

I did read"Fastwalker"when it came out in a trade paperback six or seven years ago.I thought it was pretty good.
 
Major Kraut said:
It's too bad ufology here in the U.S. is so dominated by the"true believers"in the E.T.H.Vallee's ideas have never gotten wide circulation,I believe,because he has always been almost completely ignored by the media.They would much rather keep beating the twin dead horses of abductions and Roswell.

I did read"Fastwalker"when it came out in a trade paperback six or seven years ago.I thought it was pretty good.

Just curious...how did Vallee present ufos in his novel? Did he use an et model or a dimensional entity model..? And did he have the govt in cahoots with them...?
 
"Fastwalker"is set in 1998-99(it was published in'96),and is something of a cross section of UFO beliefs of the 80's and 90's.It involves an abductee,an investigative reporter,a UFO cult,and a super secret government agency,but in the end it pretty well sticks to Vallee's theories.The government types have managed to capture a saucer,but can't really figure it out.The extra-dimensional origin finally comes out at the end ,though.

I think it's still available on Amazon.com.It's been 6 or 7 years since I've read it,so the details are somewhat fuzzy,but I remember I did enjoy it.
 
Thanks Major Kraut....

I'll order a copy....been meaning to read it for yrs.
What is your personal working model for ufos and do you find the connections to the occult and metaphysical interesting...?
You might like a book called Daimonic Reality by Harpur, an excellent look at all things paranormal form a Jungian perspectuve.
 
I lost interest in Ufology around 1970-71,as at that time it didn't seem to be going anywhere.I was in high school at the time and had become interested in UFO's,Cryptozoology,and general Forteana at an early age,and consumed any books I could find on these subjects.

As I said,I had become disillusioned with UFO's.I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in '72,still reading anything I could find on Forteana.Then,in late '75,I discovered John Keel.Ufology suddenly became intriguing again.I had already read Vallee's early works,and got hold of"The Invisible College",and some Keel's other books.In general,my ideas on UFO's has largely been based on Vallee,Hynek,and Keel,even if Keel is something of a crank.

I did get a copy of Harpur's book sometime back,but lost it before I could get very far along with it.

Unfortunately,Ufology seems to be back in a rut again,but I hold out hope that another Vallee will come along.Or better yet,maybe the great one himself will come back.
 
Major Kraut said:
It's too bad ufology here in the U.S. is so dominated by the"true believers"in the E.T.H.Vallee's ideas have never gotten wide circulation,I believe,because he has always been almost completely ignored by the media.They would much rather keep beating the twin dead horses of abductions and Roswell.

I agree. Reading Vallee's books completely changed my opinion of the UFO phenomena. "Passport To Magonia" should be required reading for anyone interested in UFOs. This is another Interesting book http://www.ufomind.com/catalog/pub/misc/angels/

sureshot
 
unicycle said:
I enjoyed Vallees "Revelations" a great deal. In this book he made a very convincing argument that many UFO cases were fabrications designed to cover up new technology - or test the credulousness of new recruits.
Unfortunately that book like so many has disappeared, lent to a friend who subsequently went through a bad relationship, and lost all the CDs and books I ever lent them!

Ooppppsss.... This sounds like me. Sorry dude, I don't even remember taking this one (but then we did get drunk a lot) and in my defence I did go back for all those B5 tapes I left at the Swedish girls place...
 
Wednesday, March 08, 2006

The interview of Jacques Vallée by Marie-Thérèse de Brosses Summarized By Gildas Bourdais march 8,9, and 10
- Part one (after you read part one-just click "home" for part two and three)

Let’s settle at once a point of controversy: JV, in this talk, affirms that this letter was addressed to the CIA, and notes a first indication that the institute was involved in secret operations. In fact the letter was addressed to an executive of the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, to the attention of Captain Edward Ruppelt, head Project Blue Book:

go here for current interview click
 
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Dr. Jacques Vallee (l) and Brent Raynes at ARE UFO Conference



An Interview with Jacques Vallee

by Brent Raynes




feb 2006

Jacques Vallee authored such UFO classics as Anatomy Of A Phenomenon, Challenge To Science (which he wrote with his wife Janine), Passport To Magonia, Messengers of Deception, Confrontations, Dimensions, and Revelations. This distinguished French born scientist received his B.S. in mathematics at the Sorbonne, an M.S. in astrophysics at Lille University, and after moving to the U.S. received his Ph.D. in computer science from Northwestern University. Vallee worked closely with the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek, former astronomical consultant to the Air Force's Project Blue Book. Their dialogues together in The Edge of Reality (1975) are a thought-provoking delight to read. Vallee also co-developed the first computer-based map of Mars for NASA, he later directed a project to build Arpanet, the prototype for the Internet, and since 1987 he has been a venture capitalist with Euro-America, serving as an early-stage investor and director of many companies including SangStat Medical, a biotechnology firm in Menlo Park, California and Nantes, France; Accuray, a medical device company specializing in robotic surgery; Ixys, a power semiconductor firm, and others.

For more information on Jacques Vallee and his extensive background, visit his website at: www.jacquesvallee.net

Editor: In the October-November 2001, UFO: The Science & Phenomena Magazine (Vol. 16, No. 5) your attendance at the 20th annual Society for Scientific Exploration was detailed. In this article, which was a summation of a conference that also included perspectives of scientists in a variety of avenues toward unexplained phenomena, including crop circles and parapsychology, it was noted how your public appearance was a rare event. Furthermore, the article quoted you saying: "I'm not interested in talking to ufologists any more, because I don't learn anything from them." Recently, you made another rare appearance to talk about UFOs. The UFO conference sponsored by the Association for Research and Enlightenment in Virginia Beach, Virginia, on December 2nd and 3rd, 2005.

Could you generally sum up for us the reasons why you have come to have little tolerance towards mainstream ufologists and avoid participating in their conferences, but would take part in these other two conferences just mentioned?

Jacques Vallee: There was another part to what I said at the time, namely that I learned more from witnesses than I did from ufologists. That remains true today. When I began this research in the 1960s I learned a lot from groups like NICAP and APRO, that were trying to document and publish cases, and promoted an open minded approach. This changed in the late 1980s when ufology turned into a set of dogmas (Roswell, abductions) with little room for open-minded research, and almost no field investigation any more. Much independent UFO research today has gone underground and is done by isolated individuals, outside of the organized groups, as was the case with the “Invisible College” in the days of Allen Hynek. The ERA conference was a rare opportunity to compare notes with colleagues I respect, in a sober setting.

Editor: Speaking of the A.R.E.'s UFO conference, what significant impressions, thoughts, or experiences did you perhaps come away with, and would you make any sort of suggestions or recommendations for future conferences of this nature?

Jacques Vallee: The phenomenon presented by UFOs is far larger than current speculation about “aliens from space.” It raises questions about consciousness, about the nature of reality and about human history on the Earth. I welcome every opportunity to meet specialists in these disciplines and learn from them. That was the case, for example, at the conference on “Consciousness, Science and Religion” held in Porto two years ago, where Dr. Eric Davis and I presented a new model for the study of unidentified aerial phenomena. The ARE conference in Virginia Beach was a similar opportunity, because attendees brought a great deal of knowledge about psychic functioning and spiritual traditions. We must take this knowledge into account if we are going to make any progress.

Editor: During your A.R.E. presentation you described how you became initially interested and aware of UFOs after you and your mother, as I recall, happened to see a UFO in your hometown in France, when you were a teenager. Would you care to share with our readers that experience again, and how it may have shaped your later, evolving interest in things like astronomy and space exploration?

Jacques Vallee: Our experience was similar to that of thousands of witnesses in Europe during that period. The observation lasted about 10 minutes and was verified by a fellow student who saw the object from his own house a mile away. He had time to get his binoculars and described it in identical terms: a silvery disk with a dome on top, hovering about 1,000 feet high. At the time, I convinced myself that the object was a prototype of some kind. Of course we now know that there is no such aircraft! I was already interested in astronomy and physics, but the enigma presented by that sighting certainly influenced me: it taught me that there was much more to be discovered.

Editor: From your pioneering Passport to Magonia (1969) to Revelations (1991), your books have tackled a wide-range of controversial and complex aspects, taking in a comprehensive global, cultural and historical perspective on these reported events, looking at paranormal, spiritual, folkloric, occult, and shamanic accounts. In Revelations you presented alternatives to the popular extraterrestrial hypothesis (i.e., the Earth Light Hypothesis, Control System, and the Wormhole Travel Hypothesis). You've stated something to the effect that you'd be pretty disappointed if all of this activity recorded down through the centuries turned out indeed to be simply E.T. visitations.

Please explain.

Jacques Vallee: When you begin to study this phenomenon the first-degree ET hypothesis, (namely the idea that we are visited by aliens from another planet in our galaxy that have just discovered us), seems like the best one. With the passage of time and the accumulation of reports, including those from people reported psychic effects, it becomes clear that it is too limited to explain the facts. As always in science, when such a situation presents itself, you must go back to basics and re-examine the data. We need to open the full spectrum of potential hypotheses instead of simply selecting data that fit our preconceptions. As you know, I have done quite a bit of study of psychical research and of older traditions, including Rosicrucian and esoteric literature, in search of related material. And it is all there, although modern adepts of these traditions seem to have forgotten all about it! Perhaps your magazine can reawaken them?

Editor: Certainly over the years you've written so many fascinating, important and thought-provoking books on the UFO enigma, and have frequently gone to the scene of reported UFO encounters and personally interviewed witnesses and inspected the encounter sites for yourself, a task you consider very important to perform when trying to get to the bottom of these mysteries and in trying to obtain valid information.

You've been to Brazil on three separate occasions to investigate incredible reports of close encounters and even human injuries and deaths connected with such reported encounters, as you described in your fascinating book Confrontations (1990). You also wrote the foreword to the late Bob Pratt's book, UFO Danger Zone (1996). A U.S. journalist of great skill, integrity, and objectivity, he made numerous trips to Brazil also and his stories and pictures fill this awesome book. Though it may understandably not be too easy of a task, can you share with us the importance of what you perceive has happened in the remote regions of Brazil?

Jacques Vallee: Anyone who has traveled to that part of the world and has spoken to local witnesses returns with the feeling of having barely scratched the surface. Bob Pratt knew Brazil well, and made more extended trips there than I did, but he would have told you the same thing. I am very sad when I realize that I won’t be able to seek his advice any more. One has to experience the phenomenon in different cultures to really understand the true dimension of the problem confronting us. What we say about Brazil would also apply to Russia, or China.

Editor: I was intrigued to also read in Confrontations of how all of the negatives of UFOs taken by Brazilian journalists and cameramen during the massive UFO wave in 1977 (in which many photographs were also taken by the Brazilian Air Force) had been purchased from the Brazilian newspapers afterwards by some "unnamed American firm." This information apparently came from the newspapers themselves? Do we have any idea as to who this firm was and where the valuable negatives ended up?

And, how soon after the reports and photographs were first published did these purchases occur?

Jacques Vallee: There are multiple cultural and political reasons preventing much of the hard data from being published. I understood this when we were invited to spend an entire day at the main Amazonian base of the Brazilian air force, and could speak freely about the reports they shared with us.

Editor: Some of the classified Brazilian military reports have been leaked out over the years it seems, and presumably the military there is seriously interested in releasing these formerly secret documents to the public. Are you encouraged by these developments, or do you feel perhaps a guarded optimism considering how such "leaks" or reported public disclosures have gone in the USA?

Jacques Vallee: I am glad to see that some of the information is finally coming out, 25 years later. To the extent that the scientific community is not showing interest in learning more, however, I doubt if the full story will be available any time soon. There is no political or social incentive to raise the issue further.

Editor: At the A.R.E. conference I was interested to hear during your presentation of how back in the 1980s you had acted as a consultant to the Stanford Research Institute's remote viewing program and learned that many remote viewers (a fact that was never publicized) had ascribed their talents to what we call UFOs. Please tell us a little more about this, and of your interest in the remote viewing subject.

Jacques Vallee: I knew the founders of the project at the Parapsychology Research group in Palo Alto before they joined SRI. When their work began in 1971 I happened to be a senior researcher in one of the computer development labs there, so I became an informal (unpaid!) member of the team. When it turned out that many of their subjects had experienced UFOs, they brought me into the project on a strictly confidential basis to document that aspect of the problem. Ingo Swann and I had many discussions when he first came to SRI and began structuring the program, interviewing some of the Institute scientists. I told him I thought the problem would be best approached as an information processing problem rather than a signal transmission problem, as the physicists and engineers planned to do. I showed him how software specialists handle data, either by direct addressing, indirect addressing, virtual addressing, etc. Ingo gives me credit for orienting him to the idea of coordinate remote viewing, where geographic coordinates constitute the “address.” Later this was expanded to other forms of targeting, but the project never explored what I thought could have been the real breakthrough research, because they were under constant pressure from mission-oriented sponsors. Ten years later, well after I had left SRI, I was asked to come back into the project as a consultant. I was briefed on Grill Flame and formally trained by Ingo. I think I’m the only one from that team who hasn’t written a book about remote viewing!

Editor: You have been very skeptical of the process of hypnotic regression being used to uncover presumably lost memories of UFO entity and abduction encounters. Can you explain why you feel this way?

Jacques Vallee: I have studied over 70 abduction cases, in concert with psychiatrists trained in the use of the clinical hypnosis. These specialists were uniformly horrified when I showed them what some ufologists were doing and claiming on the basis of the regressions they were performing. In case after case, it becomes obvious that hypnosis is NOT a good way to bring back true memories. The psychiatric literature confirms this. In his famous book “The Fifty-Minute Hour,” Dr. Lindner explains why he considered, and then rejected, the use of hypnosis when asked by the FBI to treat a senior engineer who claimed to travel psychically to other planets. Hypnosis can turn a possible fantasy into an experience that becomes irreversible. I have received pathetic letters from famous UFO abductees asking me to help them find a new form of treatment, because they continue to experience traumatic experiences that do not fit into the rigid abduction model. Unfortunately these people cannot be re-hypnotized in a professional manner after they have been subjected to the ludicrous process routinely followed in ufology today in the name of “research.” Thousands of abductees have now been regressed hypnotically, and we know nothing more about the nature of the phenomenon, the alleged craft, or the entities associated with them. I still believe the abduction experience is part of the witnesses’ reality, as Dr. Simon told me when we spent two days with Betty and Barney Hill at their place in New Hampshire, but hypnosis, in most cases, is neither the therapy of choice, nor the best way to explore what really happened to them.


SOURCE http://www.mysterious-america.net/jacquesvalleeint.html
 
Wow...I posted this thread 14 years ago....I think I'm as old as Dr Vallee now. ;)

I wanted to get into his ideas again but didn't want to start a new thread so I'm posting this bit from his book
Dimensions in this thread.


This is from Dimensions, Dr J Vallee, HB ed, 1988, Contempoorary Books ....page 288-9.

"Should we believe the witnesses who describe their experiences aboard UFOS ? As I have pointed out throughout this book there is no reason to doubt their personal integrity
, their sincerity, and their honesty. The words of Dr Simon about Betty and Barney Hill are still clear after 20 years: "The experience undoubtedly was real to them."
Does this mean we should take their recollections literally? I do not think so. These events took place in a reality we simply do not understand yet; they had an impact on part of the human mind
we have not discovered. I believe the UFO phenomenon is one of the ways through which an alien form of intelligence of incredible complexity is communicating with us symbolically.
There is no indication that it is extraterrestrial . Instead there is mounting evidence that it has access to psychic processes we have not yet mastered or even researched.
In the face of such interaction at the symbolic or mythical level all the hypnosis sessions and the searches for implants may well be as futile as the questions of the inquisitors
to the witches returning from the sabbat and the frantic search for the devil's mark on their bodies.
Until we have much more evidence about the physical nature of the UFO phenomenon I find myself repelled by the indiscriminate probing of the witnesses minds by amateur hypnotists who believe
strongly their particular theory of extraterrestrial visitation.
For many years UFO phenomena have served as a support for human imagination, a framework for human tragedy, a fabric of human dreams. We react to them in our movies, our poetry, our music,
our science fiction. And they react to us. They are not trying to communicate with a few individuals , with any group, with any government. Why should they? The phenomena function like an operational
system of symbolic communication at a global level. There is something about the human race with which they interact and we do not yet know what it is.
They are part of the environment , part of the control system for human evolution. But their effects, instead of being just physical, are also felt in our beliefs. They influence what we call our
spiritual life. They affect our politics, our history, our culture. They are a feature of our past...and undoubtedly , they are part of our future."


What does everyone think about his approach and model?
 
What does everyone think about his approach and model?
I believe the UFO phenomenon is one of the ways through which an alien form of intelligence of incredible complexity is communicating with us symbolically. There is no indication that it is extraterrestrial . Instead there is mounting evidence that it has access to psychic processes we have not yet mastered or even researched.
I'm sorry, but if it is an attempt to communicate with us, it is an abject failure. The signal-to-noise ratio is way too high.
A simple 'hello' would be better.
 
I'm sorry, but if it is an attempt to communicate with us, it is an abject failure. The signal-to-noise ratio is way too high.
A simple 'hello' would be better.
But isn't that the very question that drives "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"? Perhaps this alien intelligence believes it is saying a simple hello, but it is simply too alien to us for us to be able to hear it clearly.
 
But isn't that the very question that drives "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"? Perhaps this alien intelligence believes it is saying a simple hello, but it is simply too alien to us for us to be able to hear it clearly.

Or they are being obscure as a way of encouraging us to learn more about them and decipher what they are trying to say and when we do reach a suitable level then proper communication will commence.
 
There was a time when the reasonable doctor Vallee made a great deal of sense - around the time of harmonic 33 - but the later works...? The implication that Aliens and Ufo's have always been here and are here now and will be with us forever, all of which can never be understood is kind of infuriating.
 
Perhaps this alien intelligence believes it is saying a simple hello, but it is simply too alien to us for us to be able to hear it clearly.
If that's the way they communicate among themselves I doubt they get much done.
 
The implication that Aliens and Ufo's have always been here and are here now and will be with us forever, all of which can never be understood is kind of infuriating.

UFOs will always be with us, so long as we have imperfect senses/sensors. I've said it before - when we finally do meet aliens, they'll have UFOs of their own.
 
UFOs will always be with us, so long as we have imperfect senses/sensors. I've said it before - when we finally do meet aliens, they'll have UFOs of their own.

And it will be the same meta intelligence influencing and manipulating them as the one who has been messing with our heads for millennia.
We can compare notes and perhaps get at the core enigma.

;)
 
And it will be the same meta intelligence influencing and manipulating them as the one who has been messing with our heads for millennia.
We can compare notes and perhaps get at the core enigma.

;)

I wonder if alien rednecks also get abducted and have probes inserted where their sun don't shine. :)
 
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