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The problem with Bond is that his essential character was based on Fleming's own, and he was an operative and product of the Cold War. The book series didn't go past that while Fleming was the author.
Modern attempts - good and bad - didn't concern themselves with the character himself. They were 'updated' to match public appeal. If anything that can be said about the Daniel Craig offerings was that it was an attempt to 'modernise' the character. Me, myself, I had no problem with them. But, sure - Craig's outing wasn't a Cold War, sexist, sarcastic bastard who was paid to do the job and did it.
To me, the Bond films have changed to the viewing public. CGI, big explosions, high-tech (if improbable) gadgets have been the thing of the genre. The protagonist, however, has become secondary to the product sold.
 
As long as it's not Tom Holland.

Bond should be in his late 30's. I think the new Bond should be an actor we have seen but who is not yet a star. Henry Cavill has risen to the top already as Superman and in the Mission Impossible franchise. Same with Tom Holland and Spiderman etc. We need someone who is in the right age bracket and is ready to be thrust into the limelight. Someone who hasn't reached their peak yet but has done TV and a few low budget movies.

Not sure who that is though.
 
Why is Bond never shown ordering scrambled eggs, that's what I want to know.
He always was in the books.

Mind you, he also smoked like a chimney too.
 
Didn't he favour scrambled eggs with Perigord truffle shavings? It's been a while since I've read the books.
 
I tried reading that - interested in cookery as I am - but there's no way I can see to do so without accepting all their ... er ... cookies.
 
I tried reading that - interested in cookery as I am - but there's no way I can see to do so without accepting all their ... er ... cookies.
Oh right- that's odd.

While the short story 007 in New York is far from Ian Fleming at his best it does have one thing of interest; James Bond’s own recipe for scrambled eggs, a dish he consumes frequently throughout the books and a particular favourite of his creator.


James Bond scrambled eggs


During 1959 and 1960 Ian Fleming made two globetrotting trips for The Sunday Times, published in 1960 as a series named Thrilling Cities.

In the articles Fleming provides his unique take on each of thirteen cities around the globe and such was their success that in 1963 the series was issued in book form by Jonathan Cape.

When it came to publication in the United States Fleming refused the request of New American Library to tone down his particularly harsh comments on New York but instead provided the short story 007 in New York for inclusion in the American edition.

Previously appearing as Agent 007 in New York in the New York Herald Tribune, the story provides an alternative view of the city written from the point of view of James Bond. The story was out of print for many years until finally added to Octopussy & The Living Daylights in 2002.
While the story has little of what you might expect from Ian Fleming at his best, it does have one point of particular interest; in a footnote Fleming provides the recipe for “Scrambled Eggs ‘James Bond’”.

Recipe for Scrambled Eggs ‘James Bond’ from 007 in New York

4 servings
  • 12 fresh eggs
  • Salt and pepper
  • 5-6 oz. of fresh butter
Break the eggs into a bowl. Beat thoroughly with a fork and season well. In a small copper (or heavy bottomed saucepan) melt four oz. of the butter. When melted, pour in the eggs and cook over a very low heat, whisking continuously with a small egg whisk.
While the eggs are slightly more moist than you would wish for eating, remove the pan from heat, add rest of butter and continue whisking for half a minute, adding the while finely chopped chives or fines herbes. Serve on hot buttered toast in individual copper dishes (for appearance only) with pink champagne (Taittinger) and low music.

It is also interesting to note that an original manuscript published in James Bond: The Man and His World (by Henry Chancellor, 2005) includes the recipe with a postscript; “I think you sometimes add cream instead of the last piece of Butter. G.”


Presumably the mysterious G is Fleming’s secretary Beryl Griffie-Williams, known simply as “Griffie”.


Other egg dishes​


While James Bond often enjoys gourmet dining the dish that reoccurs more than any other throughout the books is scrambled eggs. So frequent is his consumption of the dish that it might be easier to note the three books in which scrambled eggs don’t appear; From Russia, With Love, You Only Live Twice and The Man With The Golden Gun.


In place of scrambled eggs, Bond eats his eggs lightly boiled and fried in From Russia, With Love; in You Only Live Twice he is served raw quails eggs (with lobster), eggs Benedict (with Jack Daniels) and egg beaten into rice and bean curd (Fleming even tells us how proud Bond is of his ability to eat underdone fried eggs with chopsticks); and eggs Benedict in The Man With The Golden Gun.


In every other of Ian Fleming’s James Bond books there is at least one mention of scrambled eggs, although it should also be noted that is not always 007 who eats them.


Scrambled eggs​


In his hotel room in Casino Royale James Bond breakfasts on scrambled eggs and bacon, orange juice and coffee. However, rather than restrict the dish to breakfast, but 007 will eat the dish any time of day or night.


Later in the same book he and Vesper celebrate the defeat of Le Chiffre at the baccarat tables late in the night. Alongside the champagne, which you would probably expect in such circumstances, Bond orders scrambled eggs and bacon for them both.


In How To Write A Thriller, Fleming mentions that so frequent was Bond’s consumption of scrambled eggs in an early draft of Live And Let Die that a proof-reader pointed out to him the security risked this posed to Bond, writing that whoever was following him need only walk into a restaurant and ask, “Was there a man here eating scrambled eggs?”


Although Fleming reduced the number of times the dish is mentioned in his second book, it is still a dish James Bond enjoys frequently. The first morning after arriving in New York in Live And Let Die, Bond calls room service after he wakes to order scrambled eggs, bacon, orange juice and coffee.


And later, on the train to Florida, he and Solitaire dine on scrambled eggs and bacon with sausages (along with salad and Camembert and dry martinis). Then, after discreetly slipping off the train in the early hours in order to escape the ever watchful gaze of Mr Big, they order the dish again. At a Jacksonville diner Bond orders them both scrambled eggs, orange juice and coffee for breakfast.


Finally, after arriving in Jamaica Bond eats scrambled eggs and bacon for breakfast with Blue Mountain coffee along with the tropical additions of paw-paw, red bananas, purple star-apples, tangerines and guava jelly.


After that Moonraker sees Bond modestly eat just one plate of scrambled eggs and bacon at a modest restaurant in Dover, while in Diamonds Are Forever he and Felix Leiter stop for lunch on the way to Saratoga, ordering scrambled eggs with sausages, rye toast and Miller Highlife.


Although the next book, From Russia, With Love sees no mention of the dish, i n Dr No the scrambled eggs are back. While held in the “mink lined prison” by Dr Julius No, he and Honey are provided with scrambled eggs on toast with four rashers of bacon, sausage and a grilled kidney for breakfast.


And in Goldfinger Bond orders scrambled eggs and coffee for Tilly Masterton after they are captured by the gold loving villain; having eaten already, it is inconceivable that Bond had not eaten the same.


The next book is For Your Eyes Only, a collection of five short stories in which Bond shares “a mound of fried eggs and bacon washed down with hot sweet coffee laced with rum” in Risico. Although scrambled eggs is mentioned in the first story, From A View to a Kill, Bond misses out in this book. Even the motorcycle dispatch rider debating whether to have his eggs fried or scrambled is murdered before he actually gets the chance to order breakfast.


However, in the next book, Thunderball, James Bond gratifyingly asks his Scottish housekeeper, May, to cook scrambled eggs prior to his departure for the Bahamas. He wants four eggs with four rashers of American hickory-smoked bacon and hot buttered toast, which he specifies should not be whole-meal. As well as a big pot of coffee, Bond also asks May to bring him the drinks tray. This is serious stuff.


The Spy Who Loved Me was something of an experiment for Fleming. Written from the point of view of Vivienne Michel, Bond only appears in the last third of the book. Although Bond does ask for eggs, bacon and coffee, he doesn’t actually specify scrambled.


All the same, it is likely that’s what he gets though. Bond meets Vivienne when he walks into the Dreamy Pines Motel one evening and asks her for eggs, bacon and coffee. Although he doesn’t specify how he’d like his eggs, she had already cooked scrambled eggs for herself and thugs Sluggsy and Horror and so likely Bond got the same.


In On Her Majesty’s Secret Service Bond plans to ask May to cook scrambled eggs fines herbes the night before heading for Piz Gloria to accompany his vodka and tonics with Angostura. And later, having escaped from Blofeld’s mountaintop lair and meeting Tracy again, he orders scrambled eggs and coffee at Zurich airport.


The Living Daylights finds Bond cooking himself “a vast dish of scrambled eggs and bacon” with buttered toast and black coffee with whisky for breakfast while in Berlin. He is waiting to deal with a Russian sniper who has orders to shoot a defector as he crosses the border with East Berlin on one of three nights and so has time to kill.


The story is in the collection Octopussy & The Living Daylights, to which had The Property of a Lady was added for the paperback edition. As mentioned before, since 2002, Octopussy & The Living Daylights also includes 007 in New York and the recipe for Scrambled Eggs ‘James Bond’.
 
I'm on here because Casino Royale is on tv - again - and I'm thinking that we should make our own version of a Bond film.
I'll be Bond, obviously, but who is going to be Pussy Broadchest?
 
Thank Christ that Bond films have, it appears, dropped the tradition of giving characters names like 'Scarface Foreigner' & 'Knockers Unlimited'.
 
To be fair, didn't Fleming name all his supervillains after school 'chums', like Blofeld?
 
I admit, the names of the female co-stars did sound more suitable for a Carry On film.
Remember that in the book, Pussy Galore is a lesbian who gets 'converted' by the manly-manliness of Bond, so Fleming wasn't exactly serious writing.
 
It was just the way it was back then like when Connery slaps the woman on her arse and says sling your hook love, man talk.
 
Last couple of Roger Moore so Octopussy and A View to a Kill, with a dishonorable mention to Quantum of Solace for the direction.
I watched Quantum again last night and quite enjoyed it this time - apart from the aforementioned fast cutting.
It is very 'uncluttered' for a Bond film I thought - if that make sense. ?

The only other thing, is that every time I saw Amalric's character, I kept thinking of Kermit the Frog for some reason;
 

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Wouldn't that be noticed by Smersh fairly quickly?

The return of Smersh!

A man under arrest by Russian internal security forces was seen confessing to a ‘crime’, in a video posted on January 2nd. He had been apprehended after allegedly posting a video on ‘social media’ that purportedly showed air defences near the Russian city of Belgorod. This city, on the border with Ukraine, was the target of Ukrainian missile attacks on the same day.

What was notable, though, about this confession was that the man was flanked by two internal-security officers who had the word ‘Smersh’ emblazoned on the backs of their jackets.

Many people in the west remember Smersh from Ian Fleming’s early James Bond novels (and early films). It was the shadowy Soviet spy agency bent on eliminating the fictional British agent. But there was nothing fictitious about Smersh itself. It was a real counter-intelligence agency set up in Joseph Stalin’s Soviet Union during the second world war.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/smersh-putin-reinstates-stalins-anti-spy-unit
 
The return of Smersh!

A man under arrest by Russian internal security forces was seen confessing to a ‘crime’, in a video posted on January 2nd. He had been apprehended after allegedly posting a video on ‘social media’ that purportedly showed air defences near the Russian city of Belgorod. This city, on the border with Ukraine, was the target of Ukrainian missile attacks on the same day.

What was notable, though, about this confession was that the man was flanked by two internal-security officers who had the word ‘Smersh’ emblazoned on the backs of their jackets.

Many people in the west remember Smersh from Ian Fleming’s early James Bond novels (and early films). It was the shadowy Soviet spy agency bent on eliminating the fictional British agent. But there was nothing fictitious about Smersh itself. It was a real counter-intelligence agency set up in Joseph Stalin’s Soviet Union during the second world war.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/smersh-putin-reinstates-stalins-anti-spy-unit
Welcome back Smersh! - we've missed them all these years.
 
It's probably just Putin trolling the West.
 
I’ve had what I consider to be a truly great idea for the next iteration of Bond movies. Set them in the sixties with all the cool fashion, cars, style, retro gadgets along with all the smoking, alcohol and sexy stuff.

A new, neutered Bond just isn’t Bond.
 
Bond fillums - they were stuffed down Brits' throats in the '60s and '70s.

Can remember a schoolmate who'd seen Diamonds Are Forever at the cinema describing it in great detail to a small enthralled audience.
There were questions - ''old on, go back, bikini? How did she carry the gun?'
:chuckle:
I remember reading about this probably back in the 1980s-1990s and they actually weren't on tv as often as you (or I) recall - the Mandela Effect in itself I suppose.

The article I read gave a list of dates that a particular Bond film had been shown and they were surprisingly few and far between.

I think it's just that they were so 'different' and memorable compared to a lot of other films at the time.

Now of course, they (and other films and tv series) are on every five minutes - sometimes showing an episode of a tv series daily instead of weekly like the old days- and therefore (in my opinion) greatly losing their appeal.
 
I remember reading about this probably back in the 1980s-1990s and they actually weren't on tv as often as you (or I) recall - the Mandela Effect in itself I suppose.

The article I read gave a list of dates that a particular Bond film had been shown and they were surprisingly few and far between.

I think it's just that they were so 'different' and memorable compared to a lot of other films at the time.

Now of course, they (and other films and tv series) are on every five minutes - sometimes showing an episode of a tv series daily instead of weekly like the old days- and therefore (in my opinion) greatly losing their appeal.
There were 6 in the 1960s and 5 in the '70s, placed some time after cinema release at the centre of Christmas TV viewing. People who hadn't caught one at the cinema could settle down with the latest Bond along with a glass of port and a mince pie. It was the big seasonal TV event.

It wasn't just the fillums though. There were constant magazine and newspaper articles along with TV items and interviews.
The actors were massive stars. You could read about them every day. This is what I meant by having Bond stuffed down our throats.

It was also possible to read the books of course.
 
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