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He was. You said "or", not "and". :cheer:

Since my pedantry is obviously overclocked just now, let me clarify by stating that it depends whether by "Russian" you meant "Russian" or, as is entirely possible, "Russian". The first word pertains to Russian ethnicity, which is a whole can of worms in itself. The second word pertains to the Russian state, and therefore citizenship. From this we can conclude that, while Nureyev was not Russian, he was nonetheless Russian, and therefore may sneak in by means of a technicality.

There are two Russian words which are translated into English as "Russian". The first is русский (russkii), which is the one which pertains to ethnicity. The second one is российский (rossiiskii), which is all about the Russian state.
Next you'll be telling me there are two meanings for "gay".
 

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Just wait until you hear about the Russian words for "blue".
How many for snow?

I'll bite, what's up with Russian words for blue? Surely we have many - the many shades and so on.
 

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I'll bite, what's up with Russian words for blue? Surely we have many - the many shades and so on.
Well, sure, we have all that cerulean vs teal vs cyan etc nonsense. But, fundamentally, as English speakers, we accept - or contest - that they are all shades of one category: blueness.

Russian speakers, on the other hand, divide what we would lump together as "blue" into two fundamental categories: голубой (goluboi), which we impoverished English speakers can only call "light blue", and синий (sinii), or, if you must, "dark blue". I use the word "impoverished" advisedly, as at least one study suggests that native Russian speakers are quicker than native English speakers at matching blue shades. Somewhere on these august boards I have seen reference to similar studies which claim analagous results for native speakers of an African language which differentiates more precisely among shades of green. Poor Sapir-Whorf must be turning in his grave.

Oh, yeah, and to complete the circle: the Russian slang equivalent for gay is goluboi...
 

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Well, sure, we have all that cerulean vs teal vs cyan etc nonsense. But, fundamentally, as English speakers, we accept - or contest - that they are all shades of one category: blueness.

Russian speakers, on the other hand, divide what we would lump together as "blue" into two fundamental categories: голубой (goluboi), which we impoverished English speakers can only call "light blue", and синий (sinii), or, if you must, "dark blue". I use the word "impoverished" advisedly, as at least one study suggests that native Russian speakers are quicker than native English speakers at matching blue shades. Somewhere on these august boards I have seen reference to similar studies which claim analagous results for native speakers of an African language which differentiates more precisely among shades of green. Poor Sapir-Whorf must be turning in his grave.

Oh, yeah, and to complete the circle: the Russian slang equivalent for gay is goluboi...
I saw something on TV about a tribe in Africa only differentiating colours as being light or dark and supposedly they could more quickly spot slight variations in shade but were slower at differentiating between light shades of different colours than English speakers were. That seemed a little reductive and simplistic to me.
 

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I saw something on TV about a tribe in Africa only differentiating colours as being light or dark and supposedly they could more quickly spot slight variations in shade but were slower at differentiating between light shades of different colours than English speakers were. That seemed a little reductive and simplistic to me.
There's a very good discussion of colour perception in this thread, along with interesting links: https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/perception-colour-language.54949/
 

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One thing I disliked about Bond was the cheesy dialogue.
Having just watched Kingsman 2, with all of it's fuck this, fuck that, for fucks sake, suddenly Bond dialogue seems sophisticated.
 

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One thing I disliked about Bond was the cheesy dialogue.
Having just watched Kingsman 2, with all of it's fuck this, fuck that, for fucks sake, suddenly Bond dialogue seems sophisticated.
Matthew Vaughn is sooooo overrated. A posh boy trying on a thug's sense of humour for kicks.
 

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Matthew Vaughn is sooooo overrated. A posh boy trying on a thug's sense of humour for kicks.
I believe you .. I've just had to google search who he is and although I'd seen most of the films he's been in, I still don't recognise him at all ..
 

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I believe you .. I've just had to google search who he is and although I'd seen most of the films he's been in, I still don't recognise him at all ..
That's probably because he isn't an actor, he's a director and producer! He produced Guy Ritchie movies before making stuff like Layer Cake, Kick Ass and Kingsman. I didn't mind his first X-Men movie, but everything else has been a poseur's version of a hardman's idea of entertainment. Ugh.
 

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That's probably because he isn't an actor, he's a director and producer! He produced Guy Ritchie movies before making stuff like Layer Cake, Kick Ass and Kingsman. I didn't mind his first X-Men movie, but everything else has been a poseur's version of a hardman's idea of entertainment. Ugh.
I can't stand that Layer Cake/Lock Stock type crap either.
 

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That's probably because he isn't an actor, he's a director and producer! He produced Guy Ritchie movies before making stuff like Layer Cake, Kick Ass and Kingsman. I didn't mind his first X-Men movie, but everything else has been a poseur's version of a hardman's idea of entertainment. Ugh.
I don't know...I rather liked Layer Cake and Kingsman.
 

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It remains a tragedy that they never used Ringo Starr's theme for Goldfinger.
I remember seeing Peter Serafinowicz looking seedy and dodgy walking along Customhouse Quay in Wellington New Zealand. Really underrated actor - although I'm not a big fan of The Tick. I'm guessing he had no idea what he was doing as you usually try and avoid walking along there due to the shitty traffic.
 
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Enemies of James Bond. He usually hangs around in casinos and uses his real name. Just shoot him in the head as soon as you come across him and don’t hang around telling him about ’The Plan’. I’ll get you off the hook.

Blofeld,
SPECTRE.

Bond. We’ve predicted the unique challenges you’ll come across on this mission so we’ve equipped you to use the supplied kit in this order.
1 Frying pan that takes a full 3D scan of your assailant’s face as you hit him.
1 Chlamydia detector on your trouser zip.
1 Car that bends in half to shoot back over itself with machine guns.
1 New suit that apparently does fuck all.
1 Watch (brand pending marketing negotiation) that tells the time in England.
1 Trained sinister monkey with a lethal hat.
1 £3 Million expense account.
3 Government approved quips to be used after killing people TO BE USED SPARINGLY this time.

Q.
 

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Enemies of James Bond. He usually hangs around in casinos and uses his real name. Just shoot him in the head as soon as you come across him and don’t hang around telling him about ’The Plan’. I’ll get you off the hook.

Blofeld,
SPECTRE.

Bond. We’ve predicted the unique challenges you’ll come across on this mission so we’ve equipped you to use the supplied kit in this order.
1 Frying pan that takes a full 3D scan of your assailant’s face as you hit him.
1 Chlamydia detector on your trouser zip.
1 Car that bends in half to shoot back over itself with machine guns.
1 New suit that apparently does fuck all.
1 Watch (brand pending marketing negotiation) that tells the time in England.
1 Trained sinister monkey with a lethal hat.
1 £3 Million expense account.
3 Government approved quips to be used after killing people TO BE USED SPARINGLY this time.

Q.
Bond always orders the same drink, one that nobody else would ever order. Cocktail waiters and bar staff should be ever-vigilant for the sudden appearance of someone who orders a 'vodka martini - shaken, not stirred'.
 

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I've never heard of this James Bond spin off before ..

 

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Bond always orders the same drink, one that nobody else would ever order. Cocktail waiters and bar staff should be ever-vigilant for the sudden appearance of someone who orders a 'vodka martini - shaken, not stirred'.
There's a bit in one of Charlie Stross's Laundry novels where the protagonist orders one for a laugh and finds it tastes disgusting.
 

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I don't know if i love it or hate it, but i think i want to see it. It looks completely bonkers
 

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I've never heard of this James Bond spin off before ..

That looks like fun.
I'm sure no secret agent would use a pair of Magnum hand cannons - reloading would just be a faff.
 

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I've never heard of this James Bond spin off before ..

From Lindsay Shonteff, who really really REALLY wanted to direct an official James Bond movie, but whose plentiful rip-offs were so bad he wouldn't have been allowed in the studio cafe, never mind the director's chair.
 

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From Lindsay Shonteff, who really really REALLY wanted to direct an official James Bond movie, but whose plentiful rip-offs were so bad he wouldn't have been allowed in the studio cafe, never mind the director's chair.
But the kids loved him.
 
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