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When they bring their own uniquity to the screen, that we can accomodate...but when Daniel Craig raises a sardonic eyebrow that should be upon the sallow face of poor old Roger...that is when we see red (even without being fully-aware of the offence).
On the upside, Daniel Craig looks like he might have been in a scrap or two...
 

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Yes, I would put that hypothetically in the same category as Commando - stupid films with one or two amusing lines, but generally not worth the effort.
The entire class of boys in my year at school back in '85 would seriously beg to differ.

You just have to look at the billions of Bond imitators (including Never Say Never Again) to see that even the worst of the official series have a certain flair to them the pretenders will never have. Maybe it's the stamp of authenticity, but who wants to see Mad Mission III or xXx 2 when you could be watching the real deal?
 

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On the upside, Daniel Craig looks like he might have been in a scrap or two...
I'm OK with Craig as Bond, although like many others, the blonde bit worried me. I think he's a good Bond in some crappy films. The same for Timothy Dalton. Dalton is a great actor, and brought an edge to Bond that even Connery didn't quite match, but the films were so goldarned awful it beggars belief. (In fairness, Connery did suave better than anyone, even Moore who built his entire career out of pure charm.)
 

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I'm OK with Craig as Bond, although like many others, the blonde bit worried me. I think he's a good Bond in some crappy films. The same for Timothy Dalton. Dalton is a great actor, and brought an edge to Bond that even Connery didn't quite match, but the films were so goldarned awful it beggars belief.
I agree, Mr. Dalton was very good as well, with better material he would have had a longer run I think.
 

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I agree, Mr. Dalton was very good as well, with better material he would have had a longer run I think.
There is a scene in The Living Daylights where Bond's colleague is killed and the look in Dalton's eyes is chilling. I thought "ooh, this Bond is going to be a dangerous one."
 

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Long article here speculating on who will write, and direct, the next Bond film, who will play Bond, and the various other regulars in the Franchise.
Is Daniel Craig back for Bond 25? Everything we know about the next 007 movie
Fred Heffer
25 July 2017 • 3:18pm

007 will return... on November 8 2019, according to a tweet put out by the James Bond Twitter account. But, they explain, this is only the US release date, and British cinemagoers can expect to be watching the spy's 25th (or 24th official) adventure slightly earlier.

Besides the release window, details are scarce. But here's what we know so far:

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/bond-25-news-plot-cast-director-locations/
 

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I've got to mention the 'Goldeneye' bungee-jump at the begging. After that the rest of the movie was a bit dull...

 

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It's surprisingly common for the computer game adaptation to transcend the dull movie.
Goldeneye on the N64 was an undisputed classic.
 

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First time I've ever heard Famke Janssen described as "a bit dull"...
 

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First time I've ever heard Famke Janssen described as "a bit dull"...
I liked the parts when she was bouncing around, but strangely I completely lost interest and fell asleep a few minutes after they were over...
 

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Just in case anyone cares or wonders, my favourite Bond was Moore, not because he was the darkest (he wasn't by a long stretch) but because he also got the job done while being the most fun to watch .. he was unrealistic we can only suppose at his MI6 captain level etc etc .. back in the real world though, I reckon Daniel Craig's bond is the one we'd least like to meet down a dark ally .. a sort of Chav Bond so far, he'd kick your head in and kill you in a public toilet according to Casino Royal, the remake.
 

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Craig is definitely the toughest Bond so far. Looks tough and hard, fight scenes are completely convincing. Also a damn fine actor.
 

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I liked the parts when she was bouncing around, but strangely I completely lost interest and fell asleep a few minutes after they were over...
Famke doesn't bounce, she glides. Although she did jump on Pierce Brosnan's head.

I saw Goldeneye on opening night, and the audience were laughing their heads off at it, really enjoying it, it was a great experience. Still think it's Brosnan's best, he had his moments afterwards but he wasn't landed with the best material subsequently.
 

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I saw Goldeneye at the cinema with some mates that were tripping their tits off.

They all jumped about three feet in the air when the cable hits the bottom of the dam.

I was driving. I didn't get it.
 

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Craig is definitely the toughest Bond so far. Looks tough and hard, fight scenes are completely convincing. Also a damn fine actor.
Frankly, I always saw Daniel Craig taking over from James Bolam and rebooting Andy Capp.

 

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I watched Moore's Bond films as a child--not a teenager but a child--and I thought they were wonderful fun: a glimpse into an adult-ish world of sex, death and politics, but a comic book one. If they were on television I'd beg my parents to let me stay up late and watch them.

As we know, it's very hard to remain objective with respect to childhood passions; I can't rewatch them today without slipping into the mood of childhood--which is a good thing.
Yup, same with me. I remember being quite terrified of Jaws. And most of the campiness of the Moore Bond films was lost on me at the time. Thus, watching a Bond film made me feel like an adult. Or rather, the way I thought an adult is supposed to feel.
 

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I'm a Timothy Dalton man all the way.He brought the role back to ground level with a `whump` after the camp excesses of the Moore period. He made the Bond franchise adult again.

His portrayal of him was naturalistic: this is a Bond who showed some fear on his face. He was also a Bond who was doing a job of work and who had employers. Also he is a bit more considerate to the ladies in his life ( no doubt in an ex-public school kind of way, rather than a sensitive `new man` way). With Dalton they toned down the promiscuity thatVBond had become infamous for: this was supposedly to align the show with the new post-AIDS atmosphere but I also think it brought it closer to Fleming's original conception (Fleming's Bond was in no way a ` bit of a lad`).

Nor do I agree that he was badly served by the stories themselves: I'd say that `The Living Daylights` has just the right combination of espionage,adventure, mild Sci Fi strangeness and humour that the franchise should have.

I have to confess though that there's a bit of Eighties nostalgia behind this choice!

For some reason that I can't explain, I find Sean Connery somewhat disleakable - almost repulsive - not just in his Bond role, but elsewhere too. Maybe he's just too much of `A Man` for my liking...or something.

Craig is a great actor but I find contemporary Bond all but unwatcheable: the films are aimed at the growing Asian market and hence are stuffed full of silly CGI stuffed all action episodes.(John Cleese had said the same thing somewhere).

It is interesting to note that Fleming himself was very fond of the Roger Moore portrayal- which is an eye opener.
 

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I'm a Timothy Dalton man all the way.He brought the role back to ground level with a `whump` after the camp excesses of the Moore period. He made the Bond franchise adult again.
As far as I know, the Dalton films were never very popular. I enjoyed them, though to me they never felt like Bond films. And the one in which the Afghan Taliban were portrayed as good guys now seems decidedly dated. :)

My favourite of the Dalton ones was License to Kill.

I enjoy the Daniel Craig ones too: he brings a darker, almost psychopathic edge to the character.
 
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It is interesting to note that Fleming himself was very fond of the Roger Moore portrayal- which is an eye opener.
Fleming died in 1964, first Moore Bond was 1973. I think he was pleased with Connery's 007, after first being doubtful he was right for the part.
 

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License to Kill was the first Bond movie I saw at the cinema, so it holds a special place in my heart, even if, as one critic noted, Dalton was more like Freddy Krueger with his array of creative kills.

I like the camp ones as much as the serious ones, even Connery made one that's as camp as Christmas, Diamonds are Forever. Craig's Spectre was getting that way, too, maybe looking back it will seem even more so - Christoph Waltz and his twinkle in the eye.
 

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Waltz makes an amazing villain. One of the best.
 

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I'm a Timothy Dalton man all the way.He brought the role back to ground level with a `whump` after the camp excesses of the Moore period. He made the Bond franchise adult again.

His portrayal of him was naturalistic: this is a Bond who showed some fear on his face. He was also a Bond who was doing a job of work and who had employers. Also he is a bit more considerate to the ladies in his life ( no doubt in an ex-public school kind of way, rather than a sensitive `new man` way). With Dalton they toned down the promiscuity thatVBond had become infamous for: this was supposedly to align the show with the new post-AIDS atmosphere but I also think it brought it closer to Fleming's original conception (Fleming's Bond was in no way a ` bit of a lad`).

Nor do I agree that he was badly served by the stories themselves: I'd say that `The Living Daylights` has just the right combination of espionage,adventure, mild Sci Fi strangeness and humour that the franchise should have.
The Living Daylights was good, but Licence to Kill was abysmal.

It is interesting to note that Fleming himself was very fond of the Roger Moore portrayal- which is an eye opener.
I'll say. Fleming died in 1964, long before Moore got to be Bond.
 

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The Living Daylights was good, but Licence to Kill was abysmal.
One good thing about License to Kill - Wayne Newton! Ah, no, I mean when the bullets hit the oil tanker at the end in that big chase, the noise the ricochets make is the James Bond theme. I also like Gladys Knight over the opening titles.
 
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