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John Titor: Time Traveler?

Xanatic* said:
Titor claimed to have been born in 1998 in Tampa, Florida. We should be able to track him down. Then we can kill him and rewrite the timeline. No pandemic or boxing day tsunami anymore.
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Did he predict those? He did predict a war with China, which is now looking more likely.
 
He didn't predict them but I assume if we kill him before he goes back in time, it will have an effect on all that happened after. However I did skip a lot of classes on Temporal Mechanics at the academy.
 
Xanatic* said:
He didn't predict them but I assume if we kill him before he goes back in time, it will have an effect on all that happened after.
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I think it doesn't work like that.
 
I'm writing here because I didn't find this story in any forum.

I think Sergei Ponomarenko is much more convincing than John Titor.
If you search for his name on the internet as "time traveller" (there is also an ice dancer with the same name) there are plenty of references, even YouTube videos. For example (but it's just an example!) from the Daily Star:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-claimed-time-traveller-proof-30088850

Man claimed to be time traveller with 'proof' he was from past – and many believed him​

A paranormal story from pre-war Ukraine has spread across the internet – with thousands believing the story of Sergei Ponomarenko who 'fell through time' into 2006

Rarely a day goes by without some random TikToker claiming to be from the future. But perhaps the most compelling time travel story ever centres on a man from the past.
Sergei Ponomarenko was reportedly found wandering the streets of Kyiv on April 23, 2006. He was wearing outdated clothing and carrying a museum-piece camera that looked brand new.
He was carrying an identity card that identified him as a Soviet citizen – even though the Communist Bloc had dissolved over a decade earlier.
Further, it is claimed, the film in his camera was developed by investigators and showed images of Kyiv as it was in the 1950s.

Ponomarenko claimed he had been born in 1932 and had actually been living in the 1950s until shortly before he was picked up by police in 2006.
He told them he had photographed a “bell-shaped object” and at that moment everything changed.
Students of improbable time travel stories will immediately recognise Die Glocke – the rumoured, but almost certainly fictional “time machine” developed for the SS in the dying days of World War Two.

One of the images on his roll of film was apparently a blurry photo of a bell-shaped object hovering in the skies over 1950s Kyiv. Photographic expert Vadim Posner couldn't find any irregularities with either the images, or the camera itself.
Naturally enough, a psychologist, Parlo Kutrikov, was called in to investigate Ponomarenko’s story and could’t find any holes in it.
But there are one or two holes in Ponomarenko’s story. Specifically, there’s absolutely no evidence.
Ponomarenko himself disappeared a few days after the bizarre incident, and while there are dozens of photos of the so-called “time traveller” and there are copies of the images police found on his camera roll, no originals can be found.
The only images offered as evidence for the bizarre event all come from a reconstruction made for a Ukrainian documentary called “Aliens” that was aired in 2012.
The anomalous photo allegedly sent by Ponomarenko’s to his girlfriend after he disappeared from police custody in 2006 – which appeared to show a “future” Kyiv studded with brand new skyscrapers – appeared to be a crude Photoshop job featuring, among other landmarks, New York’s Empire State Building, YouTuber Joe Scott discovered.
There is no sign of Ponomarenko’s girlfriend, the psychologist that interviewed him, or the photographic analyst called in to authenticate his photos.

With Ukraine now in a state of chaos, with millions of displaced people and government records destroyed by constant shelling and missile attacks, any attempt to confirm or refute the Ponomarenko story is unlikely to ever be possible.
There are a number of other “time slip” stories, where people appear to have temporarily “fallen through” holes in reality.
The best known dates from 1901. Two academics, Charlotte Anne Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain, wrote that while visiting the Palace of Versailles they had somehow found themselves in the court of King Louis XVI and met Marie Antoinette and several members of the pre-Revolutionary French nobility.
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In the last photo he looks a lot like Borat :)

I don't blindly believe anything, neither Ponomarenko's story nor those who tried to deconstruct it.
However, it seems to me that two questions are missing.
The first isn't very important: why would anyone waste money and time to build a hoax like that? This question can have an answer, but it is always important to ask it.
The second question is more important: if it is a hoax, where did the gentleman who played the role of Ponomanenko go? Nobody came forward to say he's my neighbor, I know him, can I prove it's all fake?
 
chanubi said:
Oh, I read about this recently. Apparently it was originally from an episode of a Ukrainian sci-fi tv series. I'll see if I can find the info.

Edit: https://www.indy100.com/viral/sergei-ponomarenko-ukraine-time-traveller-explained-2664695103
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It's possible.
For that matter you can find a similar plot in this film:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-PAX_(film)
There are a man form another "reality", a psychiatric institute, a restart, a mysterious disappearance.

But the two questions remain.
About the first one, if it's fake why spend all these resources? The answer could be conspiracy-mongering (and I don't like it, it's dangerous territory, you can say anything and everything).
On the second I give a real example. I remember when this film/mockumentary came out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blair_Witch_Project
It was obviously fiction, it wasn't true, it was clear. Yet there were a lot of people who were quick to say that they had seen the protagonists alive, that they were just actors (it's incredible!). However, I found nothing about Ponomarenko, no witness who said the same thing.
 
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