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Paul_Exeter said:
Probably her final foray into UFOs after an accomplished career as one of the more respectable Ufologists:
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Yes, she came to this forum and discussed it. Very good work, but this is still only evidence, not proof. We need better evidence to turn the corner into proof.
 
eburacum said:
Yes, she came to this forum and discussed it. Very good work, but this is still only evidence, not proof. We need better evidence to turn the corner into proof.
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Also within that link are back issues of her 'Northern UFO News'. There are some cracking reports, including the luminous green melon-shaped UFO with a door being opened that was investigated by the MoD. Interesting to note that the MoD were very focused on the description of the door.
 
In my packing I just came across Jenny Randles' book 'Time Travel' from 1994, the hardcover. When I have time I intend to read it again, Randles is fascinating.
I'm hoping to find her book 'Time Storms' as well, that book was amazing, and well researched.
 
Yet there is absolutely nothing forensic to prove that these marks were made by anything apart from Earthly machinery, except Taylor's account. No debris, no DNA; just some cornflour. Not good enough.
 
eburacum said:
One curious aspect of the sighting is that Malcolm Drummond 'and a group of forestry workers' set off to find the location of the sighting, and found it quite easily. Despite not having Taylor with him at the time. Perhaps they found an area of 'disturbed ground' that vaguely fitted the bill, and Taylor simply agreed with them. It wouldn't take much for Taylor to have walked to the other side of the motorway from where he was parked.
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Malcolm Drummond was Taylor's boss. After Drummond found this area of disturbed ground, the area was fenced off. All the detailed recordings of the site by the police were made after the fence posts were erected, presumably by Drummond's own band of forestry workers. I expect these workers made a mess during this activity, and they may have been responsible for some, or most, of the markings found by the police. As I said, a terrestrial origin for these marks is much more likely than robots from outer space.

I was briefly confused by the name Malcolm Drummond; he should not be confused with Malcolm Robinson, who wrote a book about this event and is a prolific author about paranormal subjects, which may cause him to err on the side of credulity.
 
eburacum said:
Malcolm Drummond was Taylor's boss. After Drummond found this area of disturbed ground, the area was fenced off. All the detailed recordings of the site by the police were made after the fence posts were erected, presumably by Drummond's own band of forestry workers. I expect these workers made a mess during this activity, and they may have been responsible for some, or most, of the markings found by the police. As I said, a terrestrial origin for these marks is much more likely than robots from outer space.

I was briefly confused by the name Malcolm Drummond; he should not be confused with Malcolm Robinson, who wrote a book about this event and is a prolific author about paranormal subjects, which may cause him to err on the side of credulity.
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I've never been that excited about these markings or those at Rendlesham. If you go out and look at any woodland floor there are all sorts of scapes and holes. There have also been suggestions it was some sort of prototype robotic mine-laying machine from the nearby army base (presumably lost) but I feel that is as fantastical as aliens, especially as only sea mines look like what Taylor saw

To my mind he either had some sort of abnormal brain activity and there was no UFO, or he experienced something so other-worldly that his brain could make little sense of it and what he remembered was 'garbled' images of what actually transpired (most like abuse victims can screen there awful experiences). The objects themselves make little sense and those two spiky balls are an especially bad design for collecting living specimens. However, if something 'fell' through from another dimension - perhaps a time-slip - then the objects may have been confused as Taylor was and perhaps even acted in self defence.

Ultimately, the rips in the trousers are quite difficult to explain given they were heavy duty material and ripped in an upwards direction.
 
eburacum said:
Yet there is absolutely nothing forensic to prove that these marks were made by anything apart from Earthly machinery, except Taylor's account. No debris, no DNA; just some cornflour. Not good enough.
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So here is a related question: can you photograph a time-slip? We have many accounts on this forum from some pretty decent witnesses. However, if you were walking through a park in St Albans and suddenly your surroundings changed, you were confronted with a Roman soldier, lifted your camera/phone and took a shot, would anything come out? Also, would that Roman soldier leave any DNA at the scene once it reverted back to 2023? In the Gisby/Simpson French hotel time-slip all their photographs were missing - they simply ceased to exist (although I have doubts about this case, see the thread).

What I am saying is that the nature of ghosts, UFOs, time-slips etc might mean that they do not leave evidence. either because they exist only in our minds (experiences triggered from within) or because they either willingly or unwillingly manifest within our environment through physics were are only now discovering. We always imagine the paranormal to be in control of events; that UFOs have been piloted here and that ghosts purposefully haunt their old, well, haunts, However, it may very well be that ghosts, poltergeists, Roman soldiers, UFOs and even alien black cats have no control over their appearances in our time, place and space and are as perplexed by it all as we are...
 
Paul_Exeter said:
I've never been that excited about these markings or those at Rendlesham. If you go out and look at any woodland floor there are all sorts of scapes and holes. There have also been suggestions it was some sort of prototype robotic mine-laying machine from the nearby army base (presumably lost) but I feel that is as fantastical as aliens, especially as only sea mines look like what Taylor saw

To my mind he either had some sort of abnormal brain activity and there was no UFO, or he experienced something so other-worldly that his brain could make little sense of it and what he remembered was 'garbled' images of what actually transpired (most like abuse victims can screen there awful experiences). The objects themselves make little sense and those two spiky balls are an especially bad design for collecting living specimens. However, if something 'fell' through from another dimension - perhaps a time-slip - then the objects may have been confused as Taylor was and perhaps even acted in self defence.

Ultimately, the rips in the trousers are quite difficult to explain given they were heavy duty material and ripped in an upwards direction.
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And there are so many others reporting strange experiences.
If reported landings displayed no markings or evidence at all the skeptics would be screaming that there is no evidence.
When there are strange holes in the soil and burnt and broken tree branches showing something occurred, the skeptics will go to any lengths to dismiss it all.
Can't have it both ways, and it seems the majority believe Mr. Taylor had an otherworldly experience.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Also within that link are back issues of her 'Northern UFO News'. There are some cracking reports, including the luminous green melon-shaped UFO with a door being opened that was investigated by the MoD. Interesting to note that the MoD were very focused on the description of the door.
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This is the saga of the 'green melon' UFO from the Northern UFO News 194 from MAY 2018 as posted about online by Jenny Randles. I hope that from member Jenny will forgive my pasting the who affair but unfortunately the source website does not have page numbers and it took me a while to find this again:

THE MOORLAND UAP AND THE MEN FROM THE MINISTRY

This is one of the most fascinating cases that I have investigated involving the MOD and mystery visitors. It has hidden depths that I will not go into here, as they are not directly relevant to the Ministry side of this story, but add nuance to the case itself. Particularly in what they reveal about how witnesses can be prone to experiencing the extraordinary in many shades and forms.

UFOs are but one colour on a very rich spectrum of events that intersect throughout a lifetime.

These witnesses first reported a different story to me that I investigated along with colleague Roy Sandbach. But after looking at the ghostly events and missing time adventure of this well to do couple who live in a smart home in Cheshire it became clear that they really started with an episode on the night of 16/17 August 1972.

Sandra was a professional dancer and her husband Peter ran a construction business. She had been performing far from home on this warm Summer evening on the north east coast. Because she would not finish until midnight her husband had arranged his schedule so that he could travel over 100 miles north and drive her home.

After such an exhausting day for both of them they were heading back through Swaledale in North Yorkshire. It was about 2 am and they were on the A 61 between Thirsk and Ripon at what I estimate to be near the village of Baldersby.

This is an interesting spot, though in the darkness on an unfamiliar route they were not to know.

Just south of here is the military field at Dishforth adjacent to an RAF base called Topcliffe.

Readers of Who or What Were They? - Alan Godfrey’s book - will recognize the importance of this. Dishforth is where he did his police officer training. And Dishforth and Topcliffe airfields were both part of the 1952 UFO encounter amidst the Operation Mainbrace NATO exercise that also saw a UFO buzz a nuclear weapons equipped US aircraft carrier off the Yorkshire coast.

These events were extraordinary in their time and led to the then prime minister - Winston Churchill - ordering an investigation. That was one of the first jobs to be carried out by a young Defence Ministry aid who was working for the minister and went to Yorkshire to gather evidence. His name was Ralph Noyes.

That study led to Churchill ordering the creation of an investigation unit into UFOs that matched the one created in the US as Project Blue Book.
In the UK that study became the UFO desk that operated from Whitehall right through to 2009 when, as reported above, it was shut down.

Noyes himself would rise in rank to run the full department including that UFO desk and oversaw those who manned it. This was over two decades before Nick Pope took the job in the 1990s and Noyes later told me how on taking the role he was shown gun camera footage of strange glows being chased by RAF planes. To him they were evidence of real unknown phenomena but did not appear to be craft or alien in origin.

This footage has never been released from the archives and is officially supposed to have just got lost somewhere over the years.

Ralph Noyes was a fascinating man who first came openly into the UFO mystery after his retirement in 1983 and for several years he was very helpful to our investigation of the Rendlesham Forest case where Noyes was adamant he saw evidence of a ‘cover up’ by the MoD that he had long worked for. As doing that was a no no during his tenancy he suspected there had to be good reasons why they acted so differently over this particular event.

He and I coordinated pressure on politicians searching for answers and he was a part time UFO lecturer in his retirement. Ralph gave me an excellent interview not long before he died about MOD files.

Noyes believed that most UFOs were explainable but that a few represented a natural phenomenon - a UAP in fact, though I do not think he used that term.

He once told me that he thought it was akin to a rainbow - something so strange occurring in the atmosphere that it once would have been deified by witnesses until we had the science to understand how it happened.
UFOs were not, in his view, signs of aliens, but an energy phenomenon we might one day tame. But right now were still perceiving it in the 'deification' stage where in this case the 'god' was an alien.

He thought that the MOD were interested in understanding the power involved in this natural phenomenon and perhaps using it in some way - probably as a weapon - hence the cover up.
If this is all sounding like a familiar record, it is, but I can assure you that Noyes was NOT the author of the Condign report - though he might have influenced the person who was, just like his thinking certainly influenced my interest in UAP.

Noyes wrote one UFO book after retirement - an extraordinary novel that clearly used the Rendlesham Forest case as a platform to explain via fiction because he felt unable to do so in fact what he really thought might be happening. It is about global forces harnessing power for offensive and defensive use culled from what we otherwise call UFOs.

That novel is ‘A Secret Property’.

Returning to Sandra and Peter on that Yorkshire road there is more to tell, because just a few miles south west of where they were driving was another military complex. RAF Menwith Hill just outside Harrogate is a vast electronics communication facility with golf ball dome technology that is a hive of covert interception activity. Jointly run by the UK and US and coordinated via the NSA - the US National Security Agency - it is very interestingly in the midst of an area where glowing light UFOs have long been reported.

So, quite without realizing it, as they drove home that night, Sandra and Peter were in a hotbed of both UFO activity and military covert intelligence facilities. Somewhere that if a UFO appears it would get the attention of the Ministry of Defence.

Which seems to be what happened that night.

Driving south west they saw to the south and east of them an object that appeared to be descending into a small copse. Peter slowed right down and as they cleared the trees they could see that it had, in fact, come down in a field beyond here.

Sandra told us ‘It was a large melon shape. I had no idea UFOs were supposed to look like that. I thought they were like saucers.’

Her husband added that its colour was very vivid. ‘It was a really bright green like those florescent socks’.

From apparent distance (50 feet) the size of the object was estimated to be around 30 feet across.

My first theory here was that this might be the moon, despite the colour. But checks revealed that it had gone below the horizon several hours earlier that Wednesday.

They were travelling the A61 at that point in a convoy of 4 vehicles which were close together in the dark surroundings. They were not travelling fast because the lead vehicle was a by chance a police car!

The witnesses are certain the occupants of the other three vehicles saw the object saying ‘it was impossible to miss in the sky ahead of us as it came down’. Indeed they saw them all slow to almost a stop suggesting they did do.

But nobody appeared to get out for a closer look.

At this point the object, now apparently on the ground in the field, did something extraordinary. A door opened in its side.

‘It was a vivid blue/white,’ Peter told us. ‘In sharp contrast to the vivid green around. It was like a slow motion flashbulb as it appeared’.

Sandra was more explicit likening it to when you used to turn off an old fashioned TV screen but in reverse. ‘It appeared from nowhere like a dot and then opened up into a T shape several feet across’.

Further discussion suggested that it might be akin to an ultra violet colour as Sandra said it reminded her of a sunbed lamp’.

There was now a very strange sensation - Sandra reports. ‘I felt a compulsion to get out of the car. To walk across the field to it. Something just made me want to get out and I started to do so.’

Peter added - ‘Yes, I grabbed her. I was pulling her back in. I had to drag her away from doing this.’

Both also added that in recalling this scary part of the story they had just realized that something else odd was happening.

It will sound familiar to you given the name of this website.

‘You know,’ Sandra told us, ‘that was strange. There was just no noise. Not even trees in the wind. Nothing. No normal night sounds.’

Peter started nodding, realizing she was right and that this eerie stillness had descended as they stopped to watch the landing and as his wife had tried to get out of the car.

This state of consciousness was the Oz factor.
‘That was the weirdest part. The silence. There is always something even at night. Birds twittering. Rustling. But nothing was doing nothing that night.’ he added.

As Peter hauled her back from heading out across the field as if following the ‘pied piper’ toward the landed object Sandra smiled as she recalled what he cried out to her, thus breaking the silence.

‘Sod this for a game of soldiers!’ Peter screamed - as he put his foot down and drove off at speed.

Oddly they do not recall passing the police car directly ahead of them on the road but would have had to do.
Their next memory was of the road ahead being clear and nobody else around them and them well on their way back to Cheshire.

We asked if they got home early or late, but as Peter said pointedly - ‘When you see something like this you don’t spend time looking at clocks.’

The couple arrived home in the pre-dawn a couple of hours after the sighting and were very surprised as they hurried back toward their house.

A police car was parked outside their door waiting for them!

Two officers got out and asked the couple quizzically - ‘Have you anything to report?’

They had decided en route they were not telling anybody about what just happened, so they said no. But were asked further questions - such as where had they been? Why are you returning home in the middle of the night?

They just mumbled replies hoping the cops were merely being cautious and were eventually allowed into their house.
Sandra felt that this was just a routine patrol being suspicious of their arrival after 4 am. Peter thought not as being parked waiting at their home was odd.

The Yorkshire police car would have seen them ‘flee the scene’ of the UFO landing and might have taken their number and sent local police to trace it and wait for them to reach home.

Either way they went to bed right away and fell asleep - though Sandra woke just 3 hours later ‘on a high’. She was literally euphoric and pleaded with Peter to ‘tell the world’, but he was much more reticent about doing so.

Sandra insisted they should and so phoned the local police that morning to say they had seen a UFO land and rather surprisingly two officers arrived before noon to interview her, which is certainly not what you would normally expect in these circumstances.
She was sure they knew what she was going to tell them. Indeed they more or less confirmed that by saying at one point - ‘Other cars were there, too, weren’t they?’ Something they could only know if they had been told this already.

This was quickly confirmed when the officers added that the ‘York police’ were investigating and had told them they had solved the case - ‘it was just a large tent’.

Sandra shook her head as she was asked: ‘Do you want to change your story in the light of that information?’
Her reply was succinct. ‘I have very good eyesight. I know what I saw.’

That was it as far as the couple was concerned. Sandra had reported it. Peter was happy to forget it. But that proved impossible.

A week later their regional newspaper carried a story about how a local couple had ‘fled in terror’ and on reading the story intrigued were stunned to learn that the couple were them!
At no point had they spoken to the press. They knew the police must have given them the story but had no idea why they would do so and were most upset.

Interestingly, this is very similar to what happened to Alan Godfrey where the police called the press and he was told to give an interview. Colin Perks, the police officer in Wilmslow was also put in the spotlight in this way by the police.

Could it have been a distraction tactic to subtly associate what was witnessed as a UFO in the traditional sense of that word within the public imagination? A distraction IF instead it was something else which the powers that be knew about but wanted to obscure. Odd tactic if this is the case.

Of course, the simplest option is that local media do talk to the police to get interesting stories from the case blotter. But they usually want to talk to the witnesses on something like this. Hard to understand why the police would on three occasions in cases where the MOD was involved bring the media into the picture of themselves.

However, if you think the extraordinary actions of the police had ended here, you would be wrong.

A few days after the article (which gave the couple’s address and led to ‘UFO buffs’ pestering them to tell their story) the police phoned to explain that the national papers now wanted to hear their story, too, and they - the police - would organize a press conference for the couple!

Sandra was by chance then working abroad in a cabaret so Peter, never keen to talk about this in the first place, accepted the police protection that was being offered.
On the day several reporters arrived at the house and the officer in charge set up a rota so they would be able to use the phone one by one to call in their story to the editor - then retired to the kitchen to make some tea!

I have never come across anything like this from the police in a UFO case before. It is really strange behaviour.

You might now be wondering why this story was not front page news and common knowledge to UFO researchers everywhere in 1972.
The answer is that a ring on the door aborted the entire press conference before it got underway!

A brand new looking dark car was parked outside and two men in black suits walked in. Only one did all the talking and led Peter away to another room for ‘a quiet word’.

Here the men flashed cards revealing they were from the defence ministry and said they wanted all the reporters to leave immediately.

‘It is in your interests that you do not talk to anyone about this experience’, the man explained.

Peter told them that none of this was his idea and the police had reported the story and set up the press conference but these reporters were here now so what could he do?

‘Leave that to me’ the man from the ministry said and went out and asked all the reporters to leave.

Peter heard a few murmurs of discontent but never understood how they were persuaded to leave by this man relatively easily.

So I talked to someone at the local paper and asked.

They did not recall the incident, then 16 years earlier, but suggested in similar situations the only thing likely to persuade them to leave such an open event was one reporter explaining they had signed the witnesses up to an exclusive.
This may be why the man from the ministry took Peter aside, to create the belief he had just negotiated the rights from him via a big money deal.

After the press had gone the ministry officer asked Peter a number of questions about the event.

He told me, ‘You know what is odd. Before they were made to leave the reporters all wanted me to tell them the full story. I never got the chance. These ministry people were only interested in one thing - the florescent T shaped door. The man kept asking me to tell him about it over and over and in as much detail as I could recall. It was really strange. He was obsessed with that part alone.’

What this story tells us about why the MOD are interested in a tiny few UFO cases and go to such lengths to pursue them as they seemingly did here is fascinating.
It may be a major clue as to what these things really are - be they UFO, military technology or UAP.

http://www.ozfactorbooks.com/northern-ufo-news-january-2019.html
 
I love this one, it's just mad...
Terrified Peruvian villagers 'under attack from 7ft-tall aliens' with really creepy name
Residents of the Peruvian village of Loreto are reporting attacks by 'face eating' aliens.
Face eating aliens are allegedly terrifying the residents of a small Peruvian village, prompting an investigation by the Peruvian National Police (PNP) and the Peruvian army.
Reports of 'Los Pelacaras' or 'The Face Peelers' - said to be seven-foot tall - have been emerging from the small community of Loreto since last week, according to La Republica.
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1800432/peru-face-eater-aliens
 
Paul_Exeter said:
This is the saga of the 'green melon' UFO from the Northern UFO News 194 from MAY 2018 as posted about online by Jenny Randles. I hope that from member Jenny will forgive my pasting the who affair but unfortunately the source website does not have page numbers and it took me a while to find this again:

THE MOORLAND UAP AND THE MEN FROM THE MINISTRY

This is one of the most fascinating cases that I have investigated involving the MOD and mystery visitors. It has hidden depths that I will not go into here, as they are not directly relevant to the Ministry side of this story, but add nuance to the case itself. Particularly in what they reveal about how witnesses can be prone to experiencing the extraordinary in many shades and forms.

UFOs are but one colour on a very rich spectrum of events that intersect throughout a lifetime.

These witnesses first reported a different story to me that I investigated along with colleague Roy Sandbach. But after looking at the ghostly events and missing time adventure of this well to do couple who live in a smart home in Cheshire it became clear that they really started with an episode on the night of 16/17 August 1972.

Sandra was a professional dancer and her husband Peter ran a construction business. She had been performing far from home on this warm Summer evening on the north east coast. Because she would not finish until midnight her husband had arranged his schedule so that he could travel over 100 miles north and drive her home.

After such an exhausting day for both of them they were heading back through Swaledale in North Yorkshire. It was about 2 am and they were on the A 61 between Thirsk and Ripon at what I estimate to be near the village of Baldersby.

This is an interesting spot, though in the darkness on an unfamiliar route they were not to know.

Just south of here is the military field at Dishforth adjacent to an RAF base called Topcliffe.

Readers of Who or What Were They? - Alan Godfrey’s book - will recognize the importance of this. Dishforth is where he did his police officer training. And Dishforth and Topcliffe airfields were both part of the 1952 UFO encounter amidst the Operation Mainbrace NATO exercise that also saw a UFO buzz a nuclear weapons equipped US aircraft carrier off the Yorkshire coast.

These events were extraordinary in their time and led to the then prime minister - Winston Churchill - ordering an investigation. That was one of the first jobs to be carried out by a young Defence Ministry aid who was working for the minister and went to Yorkshire to gather evidence. His name was Ralph Noyes.

That study led to Churchill ordering the creation of an investigation unit into UFOs that matched the one created in the US as Project Blue Book.
In the UK that study became the UFO desk that operated from Whitehall right through to 2009 when, as reported above, it was shut down.

Noyes himself would rise in rank to run the full department including that UFO desk and oversaw those who manned it. This was over two decades before Nick Pope took the job in the 1990s and Noyes later told me how on taking the role he was shown gun camera footage of strange glows being chased by RAF planes. To him they were evidence of real unknown phenomena but did not appear to be craft or alien in origin.

This footage has never been released from the archives and is officially supposed to have just got lost somewhere over the years.

Ralph Noyes was a fascinating man who first came openly into the UFO mystery after his retirement in 1983 and for several years he was very helpful to our investigation of the Rendlesham Forest case where Noyes was adamant he saw evidence of a ‘cover up’ by the MoD that he had long worked for. As doing that was a no no during his tenancy he suspected there had to be good reasons why they acted so differently over this particular event.

He and I coordinated pressure on politicians searching for answers and he was a part time UFO lecturer in his retirement. Ralph gave me an excellent interview not long before he died about MOD files.

Noyes believed that most UFOs were explainable but that a few represented a natural phenomenon - a UAP in fact, though I do not think he used that term.

He once told me that he thought it was akin to a rainbow - something so strange occurring in the atmosphere that it once would have been deified by witnesses until we had the science to understand how it happened.
UFOs were not, in his view, signs of aliens, but an energy phenomenon we might one day tame. But right now were still perceiving it in the 'deification' stage where in this case the 'god' was an alien.

He thought that the MOD were interested in understanding the power involved in this natural phenomenon and perhaps using it in some way - probably as a weapon - hence the cover up.
If this is all sounding like a familiar record, it is, but I can assure you that Noyes was NOT the author of the Condign report - though he might have influenced the person who was, just like his thinking certainly influenced my interest in UAP.

Noyes wrote one UFO book after retirement - an extraordinary novel that clearly used the Rendlesham Forest case as a platform to explain via fiction because he felt unable to do so in fact what he really thought might be happening. It is about global forces harnessing power for offensive and defensive use culled from what we otherwise call UFOs.

That novel is ‘A Secret Property’.

Returning to Sandra and Peter on that Yorkshire road there is more to tell, because just a few miles south west of where they were driving was another military complex. RAF Menwith Hill just outside Harrogate is a vast electronics communication facility with golf ball dome technology that is a hive of covert interception activity. Jointly run by the UK and US and coordinated via the NSA - the US National Security Agency - it is very interestingly in the midst of an area where glowing light UFOs have long been reported.

So, quite without realizing it, as they drove home that night, Sandra and Peter were in a hotbed of both UFO activity and military covert intelligence facilities. Somewhere that if a UFO appears it would get the attention of the Ministry of Defence.

Which seems to be what happened that night.

Driving south west they saw to the south and east of them an object that appeared to be descending into a small copse. Peter slowed right down and as they cleared the trees they could see that it had, in fact, come down in a field beyond here.

Sandra told us ‘It was a large melon shape. I had no idea UFOs were supposed to look like that. I thought they were like saucers.’

Her husband added that its colour was very vivid. ‘It was a really bright green like those florescent socks’.

From apparent distance (50 feet) the size of the object was estimated to be around 30 feet across.

My first theory here was that this might be the moon, despite the colour. But checks revealed that it had gone below the horizon several hours earlier that Wednesday.

They were travelling the A61 at that point in a convoy of 4 vehicles which were close together in the dark surroundings. They were not travelling fast because the lead vehicle was a by chance a police car!

The witnesses are certain the occupants of the other three vehicles saw the object saying ‘it was impossible to miss in the sky ahead of us as it came down’. Indeed they saw them all slow to almost a stop suggesting they did do.

But nobody appeared to get out for a closer look.

At this point the object, now apparently on the ground in the field, did something extraordinary. A door opened in its side.

‘It was a vivid blue/white,’ Peter told us. ‘In sharp contrast to the vivid green around. It was like a slow motion flashbulb as it appeared’.

Sandra was more explicit likening it to when you used to turn off an old fashioned TV screen but in reverse. ‘It appeared from nowhere like a dot and then opened up into a T shape several feet across’.

Further discussion suggested that it might be akin to an ultra violet colour as Sandra said it reminded her of a sunbed lamp’.

There was now a very strange sensation - Sandra reports. ‘I felt a compulsion to get out of the car. To walk across the field to it. Something just made me want to get out and I started to do so.’

Peter added - ‘Yes, I grabbed her. I was pulling her back in. I had to drag her away from doing this.’

Both also added that in recalling this scary part of the story they had just realized that something else odd was happening.

It will sound familiar to you given the name of this website.

‘You know,’ Sandra told us, ‘that was strange. There was just no noise. Not even trees in the wind. Nothing. No normal night sounds.’

Peter started nodding, realizing she was right and that this eerie stillness had descended as they stopped to watch the landing and as his wife had tried to get out of the car.

This state of consciousness was the Oz factor.
‘That was the weirdest part. The silence. There is always something even at night. Birds twittering. Rustling. But nothing was doing nothing that night.’ he added.

As Peter hauled her back from heading out across the field as if following the ‘pied piper’ toward the landed object Sandra smiled as she recalled what he cried out to her, thus breaking the silence.

‘Sod this for a game of soldiers!’ Peter screamed - as he put his foot down and drove off at speed.

Oddly they do not recall passing the police car directly ahead of them on the road but would have had to do.
Their next memory was of the road ahead being clear and nobody else around them and them well on their way back to Cheshire.

We asked if they got home early or late, but as Peter said pointedly - ‘When you see something like this you don’t spend time looking at clocks.’

The couple arrived home in the pre-dawn a couple of hours after the sighting and were very surprised as they hurried back toward their house.

A police car was parked outside their door waiting for them!

Two officers got out and asked the couple quizzically - ‘Have you anything to report?’

They had decided en route they were not telling anybody about what just happened, so they said no. But were asked further questions - such as where had they been? Why are you returning home in the middle of the night?

They just mumbled replies hoping the cops were merely being cautious and were eventually allowed into their house.
Sandra felt that this was just a routine patrol being suspicious of their arrival after 4 am. Peter thought not as being parked waiting at their home was odd.

The Yorkshire police car would have seen them ‘flee the scene’ of the UFO landing and might have taken their number and sent local police to trace it and wait for them to reach home.

Either way they went to bed right away and fell asleep - though Sandra woke just 3 hours later ‘on a high’. She was literally euphoric and pleaded with Peter to ‘tell the world’, but he was much more reticent about doing so.

Sandra insisted they should and so phoned the local police that morning to say they had seen a UFO land and rather surprisingly two officers arrived before noon to interview her, which is certainly not what you would normally expect in these circumstances.
She was sure they knew what she was going to tell them. Indeed they more or less confirmed that by saying at one point - ‘Other cars were there, too, weren’t they?’ Something they could only know if they had been told this already.

This was quickly confirmed when the officers added that the ‘York police’ were investigating and had told them they had solved the case - ‘it was just a large tent’.

Sandra shook her head as she was asked: ‘Do you want to change your story in the light of that information?’
Her reply was succinct. ‘I have very good eyesight. I know what I saw.’

That was it as far as the couple was concerned. Sandra had reported it. Peter was happy to forget it. But that proved impossible.

A week later their regional newspaper carried a story about how a local couple had ‘fled in terror’ and on reading the story intrigued were stunned to learn that the couple were them!
At no point had they spoken to the press. They knew the police must have given them the story but had no idea why they would do so and were most upset.

Interestingly, this is very similar to what happened to Alan Godfrey where the police called the press and he was told to give an interview. Colin Perks, the police officer in Wilmslow was also put in the spotlight in this way by the police.

Could it have been a distraction tactic to subtly associate what was witnessed as a UFO in the traditional sense of that word within the public imagination? A distraction IF instead it was something else which the powers that be knew about but wanted to obscure. Odd tactic if this is the case.

Of course, the simplest option is that local media do talk to the police to get interesting stories from the case blotter. But they usually want to talk to the witnesses on something like this. Hard to understand why the police would on three occasions in cases where the MOD was involved bring the media into the picture of themselves.

However, if you think the extraordinary actions of the police had ended here, you would be wrong.

A few days after the article (which gave the couple’s address and led to ‘UFO buffs’ pestering them to tell their story) the police phoned to explain that the national papers now wanted to hear their story, too, and they - the police - would organize a press conference for the couple!

Sandra was by chance then working abroad in a cabaret so Peter, never keen to talk about this in the first place, accepted the police protection that was being offered.
On the day several reporters arrived at the house and the officer in charge set up a rota so they would be able to use the phone one by one to call in their story to the editor - then retired to the kitchen to make some tea!

I have never come across anything like this from the police in a UFO case before. It is really strange behaviour.

You might now be wondering why this story was not front page news and common knowledge to UFO researchers everywhere in 1972.
The answer is that a ring on the door aborted the entire press conference before it got underway!

A brand new looking dark car was parked outside and two men in black suits walked in. Only one did all the talking and led Peter away to another room for ‘a quiet word’.

Here the men flashed cards revealing they were from the defence ministry and said they wanted all the reporters to leave immediately.

‘It is in your interests that you do not talk to anyone about this experience’, the man explained.

Peter told them that none of this was his idea and the police had reported the story and set up the press conference but these reporters were here now so what could he do?

‘Leave that to me’ the man from the ministry said and went out and asked all the reporters to leave.

Peter heard a few murmurs of discontent but never understood how they were persuaded to leave by this man relatively easily.

So I talked to someone at the local paper and asked.

They did not recall the incident, then 16 years earlier, but suggested in similar situations the only thing likely to persuade them to leave such an open event was one reporter explaining they had signed the witnesses up to an exclusive.
This may be why the man from the ministry took Peter aside, to create the belief he had just negotiated the rights from him via a big money deal.

After the press had gone the ministry officer asked Peter a number of questions about the event.

He told me, ‘You know what is odd. Before they were made to leave the reporters all wanted me to tell them the full story. I never got the chance. These ministry people were only interested in one thing - the florescent T shaped door. The man kept asking me to tell him about it over and over and in as much detail as I could recall. It was really strange. He was obsessed with that part alone.’

What this story tells us about why the MOD are interested in a tiny few UFO cases and go to such lengths to pursue them as they seemingly did here is fascinating.
It may be a major clue as to what these things really are - be they UFO, military technology or UAP.

http://www.ozfactorbooks.com/northern-ufo-news-january-2019.html
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The only small woods south and east of the road at Baldersby appear from the OS 25"/mile map to be called Merrypit Hole and Fox Covert:

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Paul_Exeter said:
This is the best source for this case;

The Dechmont Woods UFO Incident (An Ordinary Day, An Extraordinary Event)​


"One of the most incredible close encounter cases ever to have occurred in Scotland occurred on November 9th, 1979 when forestry worker Robert (Bob) Taylor encountered a hovering dome shaped object above a clearing in Dechmont Woods near Livingston, Central Scotland. He was then ‘attacked’ by two spherical objects with spikes that rushed out from beneath this object and pulled him towards the larger object.
This case stands head and shoulders above any other Scottish UFO case and has the prestigious hallmark of being the only case officially investigated by the police and forensic science laboratories in Great Britain. UFO researcher Malcolm Robinson was one of the investigators on this astonishing case and in this blockbusting book he provides all the facts and figures. The Dechmont Woods Incident stands the test of time as being one of the biggest UFO cases in the annals of British UFOlogy. A must read."

https://amzn.eu/d/egKxGG6

Scottish Ufologist Malcolm Robinson researched this case in person and it is an excellent and inexpensive read.
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On Sunday the 6th of August Malcolm gave a 2.5 hours talk on this very case.
 
One super-common "ufo" is the light in the sky, and particularly the light in the sky moving in a squiggly pattern, with the object seemingly making ultra-rapid and seemingly physically impossible movement. This can be achieved by unintentionally (or intentionally in the below photo), moving the viewing device.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap230812.html

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catseye said:
I actually meant, on the helicopters. The sort of thing they shine when they are hunting for criminals or just anything on the ground, really.
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As we’ve just got one circulating above us just now, I’ve just realised they don’t use searchlights they use thermal imaging these days.

In fact one police programme we watched they thought they’d found who they were looking for and it turned out to be a pile of manure. :bs:
 
MorningAngel said:
As we’ve just got one circulating above us just now, I’ve just realised they don’t use searchlights they use thermal imaging these days.

In fact one police programme we watched they thought they’d found who they were looking for and it turned out to be a pile of manure. :bs:
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They shine lights if they are following a stolen car driving down a road. I think they mostly do it to alert other road users to the fact that there's an idiot in a stolen BMW coming their way.
 
maximus otter said:
The only small woods south and east of the road at Baldersby appear from the OS 25"/mile map to be called Merrypit Hole and Fox Covert:
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Baldersby is very near the nexus of weirdness in North Yorkshire, which is Thornborough Henge. Dishforth as well gets more than its fair share of UFO reports, probably because it is near a helicopter airfield.
 
James_H said:
Is there a dedicated thread for the new video that is claimed on the internet to show MH370 being disappeared by UFOs? See here: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/flying-orbs-filmed-spinning-around-30695336.amp
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No. It's a fake, and a very disrespectful one. Real people died on that plane.

The only possible redeeming feature is that no-one has actually claimed to be the source of this clip, and consequently no-one knows if it is even supposed to be a video of MH370 or not.
 
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Mythopoeika said:
I love this one, it's just mad...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1800432/peru-face-eater-aliens
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According to Metabunk, the belief in 'face-eating aliens' is an old belief in that part of the world, but doesn't refer to extraterrestrials, but to 'gringos', that is to say European outsiders, who have been credited with cannibalism and 'face-eating' for a very long time. Perhaps these fears are some sort of manifestation of the way foreigners have come into these South American countries, and denuded the forests, removed the minerals and gold, and caused the deaths of local people either directly or via infection.
This myth is called the Pishtaco; here is the wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pishtaco
According to folklore, a pishtaco is an evil monster-like creature—often a stranger and often a white man—who seeks out unsuspecting natives to kill them and abuse them in many ways. The legend dates back to the Spanish conquest of South America. Primarily, his method of killing is stealing his victims' body fat for various cannibalistic purposes, or cutting them up and selling their flesh as fried chicharrones. Pishtaco derives from the local Quechua-language word "pishtay" which means to "behead, cut the throat, or cut into slices".
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James_H said:
And a just as weird follow-up:

Peru’s 7ft-tall flying ‘alien’ attackers exposed as illegal gold miners on jetpacks​

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This is another current myth, which suggests that miners are using jetpacks to attack locals and kidnap people. This seems incredibly unlikely - no jetpack could carry two people, AFAIAA. But the miners could be using drones and helicopters, which would probably result in the same sort of stories.

Note that there are numerous YouTube videos of people using jetpacks and flying harnesses; but these would be useless in the Peruvian jungle because of their heavy and expensive fuel use.

The Metabunk thread is here
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ne...-entities-attack-residents-loreto-peru.13094/
 
eburacum said:
No. It's a fake, and a very disrespectful one
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Just to demonstrate that this is a fake, here are two subsequent frames of the 'infra-red' clip. The plane jitters up and down independently of the contrail, because the plane was added later.Probably the contrail was extracted from an earlier clip showing a different plane, and the 777 was added later, together with the terribly fake-looking 'orbs'.
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eburacum said:
Just to demonstrate that this is a fake, here are two subsequent frames of the 'infra-red' clip. The plane jitters up and down independently of the contrail, because the plane was added later.Probably the contrail was extracted from an earlier clip showing a different plane, and the 777 was added later, together with the terribly fake-looking 'orbs'.
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Well, that puts that Fake to bed then - clearly as is demonstrated!
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