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There are a couple of threads on Reddit which throw a new light on Corrie McKeague's disappearance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/comments/5oelmh/corrie_mckeague_swingers_profiles/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeD...ague_and_the_running_man_a_uk_cctv/?limit=500

I feel very sorry for the family, they have tried their best to get the public on board in the search to find him but the fact that he and his girlfriend were active on a swingers site is going to give the papers a field day.
 

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So, is the baby his then?
And, have they dragged the river?
 

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There are a couple of threads on Reddit which throw a new light on Corrie McKeague's disappearance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/comments/5oelmh/corrie_mckeague_swingers_profiles/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeD...ague_and_the_running_man_a_uk_cctv/?limit=500

I feel very sorry for the family, they have tried their best to get the public on board in the search to find him but the fact that he and his girlfriend were active on a swingers site is going to give the papers a field day.

Yep, and it's going to bring more tourists and timewasters onto that site, making it even more difficult to find people to play with, FFS!
 

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Missing airman Corrie McKeague's mum to launch own search mission after hitting out at cops
PC Nicola Urquhart will be joined by her husband and two sons in the hunt for him along with more than 100 volunteers complete with drones and dogs trained to find bodies.

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The police officer mum of missing airman Corrie McKeague is to launch her own search and rescue mission after blasting investigation detectives.

PC Nicola Urquhart will be joined by her husband and two sons in the hunt for him along with more than 100 volunteers complete with drones and dogs trained to find bodies.

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Corrie, 23, vanished during a drunken night out eight miles from his base in September.

Detectives are now investigating the serviceman’s sex life and his membership of a swingers website.



Corrie's mum Nicola Urquhart (Photo: SWNS)
There has also been online speculation that he staged his own disappearance, was abducted by terrorists or murdered by a stranger.

But Nicola, 48, a family laison officer with Police Scotland, has decided to take action after criticising “strange decisions” by the Suffolk force team on the case.

She claims they failed to carry out door-to-door inquiries in the street in Bury St Edmunds where Corrie, based at RAF Honington, was last seen on CCTV.

Online swinging profile of missing RAF man Corrie McKeague revealed as police probe links to disappearance
She also says they did not search nearby empty buildings or look for his mobile phone.

Now Nicola has enlisted the help of 60 search and rescue leaders from four counties.

Yesterday Andy King, Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue chairman, said: “She has a determination to find her son, and we want to do everything we can to help her.

“It can’t be ruled out that he is deceased, so the search will include areas such as byways and country lanes where someone could have taken his body by car.”

Nicola will be joined in the unofficial hunt for Corrie by her husband David and sons Makeyan, 25, and Darroch, 21. Suffolk Police are not taking part.

The search team will include five cadaver dogs – trained to find dead bodies – and a drone team scanning rivers and waterways. There will also be 14 4x4s joining the “route and path” search.



Corrie McKeague looking like he doesn't have a care in the world just a month before he vanished
It will focus on remote areas in Mildenhall, Cavenham Heath and Kings Forest, close to where Corrie’s mobile phone last transmitted a signal.

It is understood Corrie’s father Martin, who split up with Nicola when their son was nine, will not be involved in the search funded by his ex-wife using cash raised via crowdfunding.

Police probe Missing RAF man Corrie McKeague's use of swinging websites over fears of links to disappearance
Martin told the Sunday Mirror: “I don’t want to be dragged into the circus. I’m still trying to get my head around everything. I just want to find my son and I’m doing the best I can. I’m just a dad who’s trying to get his son back.”

On Facebook he spoke out in support of the Suffolk Police investigation, adding: “The McKeague family stands by them as we have done from the start, and will continue to do so. We recommend that anyone who thinks they might have some clue to Corrie’s whereabouts contact the Suffolk police incident room. That’s how we’ll bring Corrie home together.”

Martin’s mother Mary and husband Oliver, from Fife, put up a £50,000 reward from their life savings as a reward for finding their grandson. Nicola’s side of the family has a separate reward.

Mary said: “We aren’t involved with the search. I don’t know anything about it. The police are doing the best they can. She [Nicola] is nothing to do with me. She’s my ex-daughter in law. She is not a McKeague.”



CCTV footage of RAF serviceman Corrie McKeague who went missing
Corrie was last seen wearing a light pink shirt and white jeans. He and his pregnant girlfriend April Oliver, 21, both had profiles on the Fab Swingers ‘hook up’ website. A member since 2014, he posted that he was looking for straight and lesbian couples and single women aged 18 to 60.

Among his “interests” he listed “adult parties, blindfolds, cuckolding, making videos, role play, SM (sado-masochism), spanking and threesomes.”

His list of “friends” on the site included a mixture of couples, single men and women, and transvestites.

Fab Swingers last night told the Sunday Mirror they had co-operated with police and passed them information about Corrie.

A spokesman said: “The police got in touch with our legal department regarding this case shortly after he went missing.

Corrie McKeague's mum confirms missing RAF man and his girlfriend were members of swinging club
“We passed them the information they requested. We have a robust legal process in place to deal with all similar police and law enforcement enquiries of which we receive dozens each month.

“Our legal department is kept busy dealing with these sort of issues and assist lawful enquiries day in day out with respect to a multitude of type of crimes.

“The legal department ensures that all enquiries are dealt with lawfully while respecting responsibilities under the Data Protection Act.”



Darroch McKeague, brother of missing Corrie McKeague (Photo: Chris Radburn/PA Wire)
Corrie also used Tinder and Plenty of Fish, where he described himself as “a princess” who was looking for a relationship.

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Detectives have also been handed screenshots of a page containing his image on the gay sex app Grindr, but it is unclear if it was genuine. His family have insisted he was not gay.

April, who is due to give birth to their child later this year, has said he did not know about the pregnancy before he vanished.

Anyone with any information should call Sussex Police on 01473 782019.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/missing-airman-corrie-mckeagues-mum-9669767
 

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Corrie Mckeague: Man arrested over missing serviceman
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Image captionCorrie McKeague is described as white, 5ft 10ins tall, of medium build, with short light brown hair
Police looking for airman Corrie Mckeague have arrested a man on suspicion of attempting to pervert the course of justice.

The 23-year-old, from Dunfermline, Fife, went missing on a night out in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, last year.

A 26-year-old man was arrested on Wednesday.

The man is not the driver of the bin lorry which collected refuse from the area where Mr Mckeague was last seen, Suffolk Police said.

He is not related to the missing gunner, who was based at RAF Honington, the force confirmed.

For the latest on this story visit our Suffolk live page

Work is continuing on a landfill site at Milton, near Cambridge, ahead of a police search, which is now likely to start in the next seven days.

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Image captionCorrie Mckeague was caught on CCTV during the night out
Officers have issued CCTV footage of two people who were seen on foot in Brentgovel Street or the "horseshoe" area of the town, around the time of the last sighting of him.

Det Supt Katie Elliott said: "We are continuing to make progress on the investigation and we will be starting the landfill site search as soon as the preparatory work is complete.

"We have been carrying out a lot of inquiries behind the scenes and our work continues to find the truth about what happened to Corrie."

Corrie Mckeague and his mysterious disappearance

Mr Mckeague had met up with friends on 24 September before heading to a number of bars and Flex nightclub on St Andrew's Street at about 00:30 BST.

He was asked to leave half an hour later and went to Pizza Mamma Mia on St Andrew's Street North. He then took a nap for about two hours in a electrical shop doorway.


Image captionNicola Urquhart has previously said she has no faith Suffolk Police would find her son
At around 03:25, he walked into the "horseshoe" loading bay area.

It has been proven an individual cannot leave the area on foot without being seen on CCTV, but Mr Mckeague was not caught on camera again.

RAF Honington reported Mr Mckeague's disappearance to police on 26 September when he did not turn up to parade at 11:30.

Mr Mckeague's mother, Nicola Urquhart, has previously said she has no faith police would find him and launched a crowdfunding campaign to hire a private investigator.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39125866
 

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He is not related to the missing gunner, who was based at RAF Honington, the force confirmed.
Does this strike anybody as an odd statement, or a really odd question to ask which would require such a statement?

I mean, I know it's often our nearest and dearest who do us harm, but Corrie McKeague was a long way outside his home environment, and a long way from his family.

I'm sure it's nothing - it may even simply be a response to a stock question; but it has rather underlined the feeling I've had all along that McKeague's family seem a little at odds with each other.
 

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Does this strike anybody as an odd statement, or a really odd question to ask which would require such a statement?

I mean, I know it's often our nearest and dearest who do us harm, but Corrie McKeague was a long way outside his home environment, and a long way from his family.

I'm sure it's nothing - it may even simply be a response to a stock question; but it has rather underlined the feeling I've had all along that McKeague's family seem a little at odds with each other.
That statement was probably aimed at the Find Corrie Facebook page, they have sleuthed and named a couple of people on the periphery of the case; staff from one of the bars he visited that night for example.

They haven't pitched up with flaming torches and the means to perform a lynching yet, but give them time. :(
 

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Missing Corrie Mckeague: Mother prays he is found quickly
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Image captionCorrie Mckeague vanished from Bury St Edmunds on 24 September
The mother of missing airman Corrie Mckeague has said new evidence linking a bin lorry to his disappearance can "only mean one thing".

The refuse vehicle, which was seized shortly after the RAF gunner vanished from Bury St Edmunds, was carrying a significantly heavier load than first thought, police said.

It was initially deemed too light to have contained a body.

The finding emerged as police began a search of a landfill site.

Mr Mckeague, from Dunfermline, Fife, was last seen on a night out on 24 September.

'Devastating'
The lorry, which picked up bins in the area of the last sighting, took a route which appeared to coincide with signals from Mr Mckeague's mobile phone, Suffolk Police said.

Early investigations found the rubbish truck was carrying 11kg (1st 10lb), but detectives have since learned it was more than 100kg (15st 10lb) - "far higher than originally thought".

Mr Mckeague's mother, Nicola Urquhart, reacted to the news on Facebook, saying: "This can really, devastatingly, only mean one thing.

"I can only pray that Corrie is found quickly and that we are able to get answers as to how this could have happened."


Image captionNicola Urquhart had been pushing for police to examine the landfill before the new information came to light
She told BBC Scotland: "It's incredibly difficult, we're taking it one day at a time, just waiting for the phone to ring.

"My whole focus has been on trying to get this avenue investigated."

Mr Mckeague's family had campaigned for the landfill, in Milton, Cambridgeshire, to be examined earlier in the investigation.

'Huge undertaking'
A search, which is expected to take up to 10 weeks, began on Monday after 8,000 tonnes of material was moved to make the site safe.

Det Supt Katie Elliott said the search was a "huge undertaking" which "still may not provide the answer as to what happened".

"But now, with new information uncovered by the officers working on the case, this is the priority," she said.

The dispute over the weight of the bin lorry - which led to the arrest of a 26-year-old man - was the result of a "genuine mistake", Det Supt Elliott said.

"The investigation has identified that the company who provided the data usually charge per collection, not per weight of load collected, and it appears that it was genuinely believed by the company that the data provided was correct.

The arrested man was held on suspicion of perverting the course of justice but has since been told no further action will be taken.

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Image captionIt took several weeks to prepare the site before officers moved in on Monday
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Image captionCorrie Mckeague was last seen in Bury St Edmunds at about 03:20 BST on 24 September, in an area called 'the horseshoe'
"There was no intention to mislead the investigation. However, our discovery... now puts a new emphasis on the search," Det Supt Elliott said.

Mr Mckeague is a gunner in No 2 Sqn, RAF Regiment, and was based at Honington.

His mother has described him as "gregarious", "funny" and someone who "loves to be the centre of attention".

In January it was announced that Mr Mckeague's girlfriend, April Oliver, is pregnant with their child.

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Image captionMiss Oliver and Mr Mckeague had been together for about five months before he disappeared
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Mr Mckeague's mother, Nicola Urquhart, reacted to the news on Facebook, saying: "This can really, devastatingly, only mean one thing.
not really, based on the weight differential and the phone signal alone (the arrest being linked to an error over the vehicle data) there are still clearly several ways this could play out ...
 

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Police 'confident' missing Corrie Mckeague at landfill site

Police searching for missing airman Corrie Mckeague say they are "confident" his body will be found at a landfill site.
The RAF serviceman has not been seen since a night out in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, in September.

Suffolk Police revealed a bin lorry seized shortly after the gunner vanished was carrying a heavier load than first thought.
The force is now searching a landfill site in Cambridgeshire as a result.
Det Supt Katie Elliott told the BBC: "I have a strong belief that we will find him here."Asked for her reaction to the delay in the correct information about the weight of the lorry's load coming to light, she replied: "It's frustrating for me, I think it must be terribly frustrating for Corrie's family."

Det Supt Elliott said she would "have liked to have had the information sooner that would have led us to this point".
She said finding out about the lorry weight mistake was "very sobering".
"We've been working tirelessly on this investigation to try and find Corrie - that's been our priority the whole way through.
"To have that information really reinforced the decision that we'd already made that we needed to come and search this landfill site."

Mr Mckeague was last seen on CCTV cameras walking into a loading bay area of Bury St Edmunds known as the "Horseshoe".

After he was reported missing, signals showed his mobile phone had been in nearby Barton Mills, and matched the route of a bin lorry.
Police were initially told the waste collected from the area weighed 11kg (1st 10lb), too light to have contained Mr Mckeague.
The force has since found out the lorry's load was more than 100kg (15st 10lb).

A search team at the landfill site in Milton, Cambridgeshire - where the lorry's load ended up - has already trawled through 60 tonnes of waste.

It could take the team of eight trained officers up to 10 weeks to sift through the rubbish, which covers an area of about 920 sq m (9,900 sq ft).

etc...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39209562
 
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Finally! They took their time. Now they have a lot more rubbish to sort through to find what's left of his body.
If only they'd conducted that part of the investigation earlier.
That isn't going to be a pleasant experience.. :eek:
 

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not really, based on the weight differential and the phone signal alone (the arrest being linked to an error over the vehicle data) there are still clearly several ways this could play out ...
Don't forget that the police are probably telling the family more than they're telling us. They'll have discussed the possibilities at length with them. The family will have a good idea about what may have happened.
 

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Don't forget that the police are probably telling the family more than they're telling us. They'll have discussed the possibilities at length with them. The family will have a good idea about what may have happened.
no doubt, the message from the mother however is that digging his body out of the landfill is now the only possible eventuality which seems rather a non sequitir given whats been released so far ... she could be saying they are prepared for whatever they may find there ... the family have been very unpredictable throughout
 

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Sorry - these are responses to comments made back in January. Apologies for disrupting the flow.

...I can't decide whether the police mishandled/didn't take it seriously initially or whether there is something else in play, there has been mention by the family of a D-notice.
The D(SMA)-Notice thing seems to have been one of those ideas that came out of nowhere and then wouldn't die down; I'm not sure what basis at all – if any - anyone has for saying that such a thing ever existed in this case. The story itself is clearly not the subject of such a notice - as it has very much remained covered by the mainstream media. It's possible, I suppose, that they have been requested to sit on certain individual aspects - but that's not uncommon, and often essential to the progression of a case.

And, in response to the kidnapping theory:

would almost certainly have surfaced by now if this was the motive ... would have been within first few hours
I'd agree - if this was a motive then every extra day after the disappearance would represent an exponential increase in accumulated risk. The only scenario I really see as fitting comfortably with this idea is a botched one - that is, something went awry and the perpetrators cleaned house. But I still find this much less likely than other potential scenarios - and I think that, even in this case, the perpetrators would have made some sort of capital out of the crime; it's a possibility - but I think other possibilities are much more likely to be at the heart of this matter.

There are other reasons I find the idea a little problematic. Although a drunk person might be vulnerable to potential abductors, they'd also be unpredictable - and difficult to follow for any length of time without leaving a trace. To an outside observer, one person following a wildly unpredictable pattern round a town centre at night will probably just appear pissed - two clearly separate individuals following the same wildly unpredictable pattern round a town centre at night – something’s going on; the cover of darkness can be a very useful ally - but it can also make unusual activity all the more obvious to an independent observer.

Yeah, not very good pals...
This could be slightly unfair. I suspect quite a few of us know people who get hard to handle when they are pissed: mood swings, uncontrollable urges to do stupid things, an inability to just go home – or to know when enough is enough. And quite often these are precisely the people who splinter off from a group apparently on a whim to do their own thing. In my experience this is not that uncommon a type – and they’re a righteous pain in the arse.
 

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Missing Corrie Mckeague: Girlfriend April Oliver has baby

The girlfriend of missing airman Corrie Mckeague has announced the birth of their baby in an online post.
April Oliver, from Norfolk, uploaded an image of her cradling a baby on her Facebook page on Father's Day.
She told the BBC she would not be releasing any more details. Miss Oliver announced her pregnancy in January, four months after Mr Mckeague vanished.

The RAF gunner, 23, went missing on a night out in Bury St Edmunds, with a search of a landfill site ongoing.

etc...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-40319373
 

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Police call off landfill search for missing Corrie McKeague after sifting through 6,500 tonnes of rubbish
Officers have found no trace of Corrie, his clothing or his mobile phone after spending £1.2m on the painstaking search over five momths.


  • Police searching a landfill site for missing RAF gunner Corrie McKeague say "no trace" of the serviceman has been found.

    Suffolk Police Detective Superintendent Katie Elliott said officers sifted through 6,500 tonnes of waste in an "unprecedented" search for the 23-year-old.

    She said: "Our thoughts are with Corrie's family as we had hoped that this search would have provided them with the answers about what happened to him.

    "Sadly we have not found Corrie, or any trace of his clothing or mobile phone."

    Corrie, from Dunfermline in Fife, vanished after a night out with friends in Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk on September 24, 2016.

  • etc...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/police-call-landfill-search-missing-10846874
 

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Good, it was a heinous waste of scant police resources. Quite how his mother has the gall to complain is beyond me - she must be clinically delusional.
 

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Good, it was a heinous waste of scant police resources. Quite how his mother has the gall to complain is beyond me - she must be clinically delusional.
If police suspect a murder has taken place then they will spend quite a bit if they think a body may be in a certain location.

Wouldn't just call it wasted. To have carried on for so long with the search it's likely they were acting on information received.
 

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I guess my opinion is heavily coloured by the whole circus generated by (some of) his family, who have done little other than attack the police (and anyone else they can find) for, basically, not agreeing with their own assertions. His mother in particular has come across as singularly unpleasant. Of course, the police may well have unpublicised evidence that justified their actions, but I'm far from convinced.

I'm not trying to detract from the utter tragedy of someone dying young and leaving relatives in mourning, but the case did become rather grotesque.
 

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yes it seems only the father conducted himself
 

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I guess my opinion is heavily coloured by the whole circus generated by (some of) his family, who have done little other than attack the police (and anyone else they can find) for, basically, not agreeing with their own assertions. His mother in particular has come across as singularly unpleasant. Of course, the police may well have unpublicised evidence that justified their actions, but I'm far from convinced.

I'm not trying to detract from the utter tragedy of someone dying young and leaving relatives in mourning, but the case did become rather grotesque.
I listened to the police press conference and I am not sure they do have much evidence to justify the prolonged landfill search. A figure of £1.2 million was mentioned as the cost of the investigation.
The points the DSup mentioned were the phone pings, Corrie not being able to leave on foot without being seen and being told by a "credible witness" that he had previously slept in rubbish bins.

However, there was a suspicion that the bin lorry would act as a Faraday cage, so if the phone was in there it wouldn't ping. Tests to check this were inconclusive.

The camera which caught the last sighting of him at 3.24am is not fixed, it rotates. Other cameras which may have 'seen' him were not operational at the time, so he could have avoided them/been missed by them.

His family previously denied that he ever slept in a bin, if the witness turns out to be his brother then questions need to be asked.

On top of everything else, a bread delivery driver claims to have seen him near a dogging site at Barton Mills at around 4am.

As a mother, I understand his parents' need to leave no stone unturned, but the police have done much more than usual to find a missing adult. It doesn't look as though he did end up in the bin lorry, so where is he?
 

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As a mother, I understand his parents' need to leave no stone unturned, but the police have done much more than usual to find a missing adult. It doesn't look as though he did end up in the bin lorry, so where is he?
That's the problem though, his mother specifically didn't want certain 'stones' turned over at all, even ones which might well have helped the investigation.
Ultimately, the only (publically) known facts are that he wandered behind a shop while inebriated, and that his phone ended up in a bin. I appreciate that the police may go beyond the norm for 'one of their own' (albeit a shockingly ungrateful one) but unless they're sitting on an evidential bombshell, their efforts have as you say been disproportionate.
 

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Ultimately, the only (publically) known facts are that he wandered behind a shop while inebriated, and that his phone ended up in a bin.
was it determined what happened to the phone, i thought it was never found
 

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Bits of the phone turned up in a bin lorry, didn't they?

*edit* - the back cover of a phone of the right type turned up close to where the last signal from his phone was detected but there was no conclusive forensic evidence as to whether or not it was actually his: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-38568194
 
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The family admitted he and his partner were actively into swinging, but denied he was gay or bisexual after the police revealed they had evidence that he was looking for men to have sex with on Grindr and other similar apps....
 
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Bits of the phone turned up in a bin lorry, didn't they?

*edit* - the back cover of a phone of the right type turned up close to where the last signal from his phone was detected but there was no conclusive forensic evidence as to whether or not it was actually his: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-38568194
doesnt mention where found ie landfill/elsewhere ... i wouldve thought the phone back panel would be prime for fingerprinting ... although it does mention a protective case ... lumia 435s are not a popular phone
 
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