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Man Employs Juju In Gang Pursuit

Yithian

Yithian

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This has been posted and reposted a number of times now, but hard details about what it depicts are hard to come by.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763621166210523445

All I have:
  • There is speculation it may be staged; I find it credible, but it could be a low budget film.
  • I do not recognise the language being spoken
  • Hence I have no clue about where or when this happened
  • The scene takes place at night; the cameras are those used in 'low-light' @maximus otter?
  • The video is briefly rewound--nobody throws his shirt back (unless the dog is talented at running backwards)
  • He makes some peculiar arm movements that could be mere panic or could have meaning before appearing the 'cross' himself
  • Perhaps merely lying in the street was enough to convince his pursuers he was a vagrant and/or a drug addict
It's times like these we need @EnolaGaia's detective skills; I don't have time to go in search of more.

Thoughts?
 
Yithian said:
This has been posted and reposted a number of times now, but hard details about what it depicts are hard to come by.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763621166210523445

All I have:
  • There is speculation it may be staged; I find it credible, but it could be a low budget film.
  • I do not recognise the language being spoken
  • Hence I have no clue about where or when this happened
  • The scene takes place at night; the cameras are those used in 'low-light' @maximus otter?
  • The video is briefly rewound--nobody throws his shirt back (unless the dog is talented at running backwards)
  • He makes some peculiar arm movements that could be mere panic or could have meaning before appearing the 'cross' himself
  • Perhaps merely lying in the street was enough to convince his pursuers he was a vagrant and/or a drug addict
It's times like these we need @EnolaGaia's detective skills; I don't have time to go in search of more.

Thoughts?
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I’m picking up several Spanish words, and the frequent use of the word “ ‘mano”, a contraction of the word hermano meaning “brother” used as conversational “filler”, like the interjection “man.” I’m monoglot but this suggests Mexico to me.

It doesn’t look like night/ thermal vision.

The two women on the corner might be prostitutes, suggesting this is “the wrong side of the tracks.”

At first l thought that he’d been pepper-sprayed out of sight around the corner (the shedding of the shirt, the strange arm actions.)

His lying prone…? I would have thought that at least one of the pursuers would have turned him over to check his identity one way or another, as they seem to be persevering and determined. One attacker experiencing tunnel vision might miss him there, but 5 to 10 of them?

lt’s a :dunno: from me.

maximus otter
 
It's in Spanish but the voices are slowed down so it sounds weird. The watermark 'Beiby Calle TV' leads to this page which is based in Colombia, but that doesn't necessarily indicate the provenance of the video as they'll be reposting content.

EDIT: Beiby Calle appears to be an aspiring rapper who also makes other kinds of social media content. This video locates him firmly in Colombia (there's a Pereira license plate on a car) and also shows an interest in brujería. My money is on him faking a video to get social media engagement to build his brand and music career.
 
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James_H said:
It's in Spanish but the voices are slowed down so it sounds weird. The watermark 'Beiby Calle TV' leads to this page which is based in Colombia, but that doesn't necessarily indicate the providence of the video as they'll be reposting content.

EDIT: Beiby Calle appears to be an aspiring rapper who also makes other kinds of social media content. This video locates him firmly in Colombia (there's a Pereira license plate on a car) and also shows an interest in brujería. My money is on him faking a video to get social media engagement to build his brand and music career.
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Yes, definitely Spanish, heavily distorted so hard to understand some of it. The conversation is rather dull, like a couple of drunks watching the video and commenting upon it, but nothing of real interest. More or less along the lines of, "Look at this guy, now he's taking his shirt off... he just lies down there, they don't see him, I didn't used to believe in these things..." etc. etc. No actual information, just commentary.
 
This seems to be unbelievable, that these pursuers didn't even look at him lying there.
They were standing right next to him. One even climbed up next to him, to look at the roof.
 
Mythopoeika said:
This seems to be unbelievable, that these pursuers didn't even look at him lying there.
They were standing right next to him. One even climbed up next to him, to look at the roof.
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Then there's only one conclusion.

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They were looking for a guy wearing whatever color shirt. He is not wearing a shirt when they see him, nor are the looking at his face. We also assume that the pursuers are all sober/not on drugs and that someone facedown isn't out of the ordinary: as was noted, this is likely "not the right side of the tracks".
 
He throws his T shirt and it's thrown back to him? Why?

I think the video is bordering on the ridiculous being so ridiculous as to be impossible and implausible that it is somehow believable.

Also how comes he was so far ahead of those on scooters? And those running after him were also ahead of those on scooters?

Then there's the person video'ing it. Did that person just happen to be there waiting for the action? If it was a security camera why was it pointing that way? Who released the footage?

I think this is a staged video for an unknown reason.
 
kesavaross said:
He throws his T shirt and it's thrown back to him? Why?

I think the video is bordering on the ridiculous being so ridiculous as to be impossible and implausible that it is somehow believable.

Also how comes he was so far ahead of those on scooters? And those running after him were also ahead of those on scooters?

Then there's the person video'ing it. Did that person just happen to be there waiting for the action? If it was a security camera why was it pointing that way? Who released the footage?

I think this is a staged video for an unknown reason.
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The shirt wasn't thrown back, the video briefly went into reverse.
 
SimonBurchell said:
The shirt wasn't thrown back, the video briefly went into reverse.
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I'd be no good at any type of investigation, especially the paranormal, unless the obvious was pointed out to me beforehand.

I sometimes watch various videos of such and after reading the comments below then think 'why didn't I think of that'.

I think I'm easily fooled.
 
James_H said:
It's in Spanish but the voices are slowed down so it sounds weird. The watermark 'Beiby Calle TV' leads to this page which is based in Colombia, but that doesn't necessarily indicate the provenance of the video as they'll be reposting content.

EDIT: Beiby Calle appears to be an aspiring rapper who also makes other kinds of social media content. This video locates him firmly in Colombia (there's a Pereira license plate on a car) and also shows an interest in brujería. My money is on him faking a video to get social media engagement to build his brand and music career.
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Yes. To all that. Although, I think it's a pretty well directed effort.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think any magical inferences would be viewed through in context of Santeria.

That said, the odd reversal/playback glitch makes the motions appear more frenetic than they maybe are, and my reading is that what might seem at first to be a sequence of random gesticulations (or the act of someone brushing themselves down in some sort of invisibility ritual) actually appears to be a guy crossing himself and touching his lips - which is pure trad Catholicism; so there may not in fact be any brujeria involved in the process at all - just, you know, a bog-standard miracle.

Also, it kind of looks like he's removing something from around his neck just before he performs that signum crucis - which makes me wonder if he might have taken a small crucifix from around his neck and used that as part of the blessing process.

It's hard to tell with the distortion, but the Spanish does sound more South American than Mexican to me. (La tía y los primos de mi ex novia son de columbia; course, that doesn't make me any kind of expert, but my limited experience suggests that there is a difference in feel between Columbian and Mexican Spanish).

I found one source that states the source is based in Santiago de Cali - I'm assuming that can be tracked down via their socials.

There's a slightly clearer video here:

 
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Spookdaddy said:
Yes. To all that. Although, I think it's a pretty well directed effort.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think any magical inferences would be viewed through in context of Santeria.

That said, the odd reversal/playback glitch makes the motions appear more frenetic than they maybe are, and my reading is that what might seem at first to be a sequence of random gesticulations (or the act of someone brushing themselves down in some sort of invisibility ritual) actually appears to be a guy crossing himself and touching his lips - which is pure trad Catholicism; so there may not in fact be any brujeria involved in the process at all - just, you know, a bog-standard miracle.

Also, it kind of looks like he's removing something from around his neck just before he performs that signum crucis - which makes me wonder if he might have taken a small crucifix from around his neck and used that as part of the blessing process.

It's hard to tell with the distortion, but the Spanish does sound more South American than Mexican to me. (La tía y los primos de mi ex novia son de columbia. Course, that doesn't make me any kind of expert, but my limited experience suggests that there is a difference in feel between Columbian and Mexican Spanish).

I found one source that states the source is based in Santiago de Cali - I'm assuming that can be tracked down via their socials.

There's a slightly clearer video here:

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It doesn't sound like Mexican Spanish to me, but there's quite a bit of distortion, so hard to tell. However, since it is commentary, it could be from somewhere completely unrelated to the location pictured.
 
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