Manitoba Bigfoot Film and other footage

[Human_84]

My fault. This here is actually the river crossing where the video was shot at. See the roads, and thats where the ferry is.

 

[ruffready]

Ahhhh! I se!! hey this new google thing is really cool , ain't it!! you can even find my old Navy air base!! look up Lemoore NAS Califorina (Naval Air Station Lemoore) see if you can find that! Its near "Hanford , California".

 

[Anonymous]

Is there any news on him selling the footage yet? so we can all watch it an be dissappointed.

 

[elffriend]

Is there any news on him selling the footage yet? so we can all watch it an be dissappointed.

Erm....yes.....see previous page on the thread.

 

[Anonymous]

So how long before the footage is widely available on the internet?

 

[Anonymous]

It was noted earlier that the suspected BF is in shin deep water. Then it went on to say that hunters went to the excact spot and found the water to be 3 or 4 feet, which is waist height for us. If this is true than that is VERY good evidence. They should take that same camera to the same place on the bank. Then someone needs to go across the river to the exact spot and filmed with the same zoom. The two films should then be compared side by side. This will determine once and for all how tall this thing was. The use of two way FM radios would make this very easy to do.

 

[Human_84]

You have to ask yourself, why would bobby clarke be taking a hike on a trail by the river before his shift began on saturday? Theres no need for him to do this. Parking for his truck is at the ferry docks. Who feels like taking a brist walk by a windy river on a 20'Farenheight April morning? Evidently Bobby Clarke did. Ask yourself, who feels like waking up saturday morning, driving 20 miles to work and showing up an hour early at that, let alone taking a subartic walk and happens to tag his camcorder along with him. For what reason? You've got me. Keep your eyes open guys...

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Zoologist casts doubt on Bigfoot sighting

Zoologist casts doubt on Bigfoot sighting
friday april 22 2005 WINNIPEG -- A zoologist at the University of Manitoba says he's "very skeptical'' about a reported Bigfoot sighting near the remote community of Norway House.
Professor James Hare says there is always the possibility of discovering a new species of animal.

But he says if Bigfoot does exist, someone in North America would probably have found hard evidence by now.

He adds many sightings have turned out to be hoaxes.

Bobby Clarke, a ferry operator, has a short piece of video footage of what appears to be a tall, hairy creature walking upright in the Nelson River.

Many residents in Norway House have seen the video, but Clarke has now stopped showing the tape and is hoping to sell it to a media outlet.

A Vancouver author and amateur researcher says Bigfoot-type creatures exist and are likely in northern Manitoba.

Chris Murphy says there have been dozens of sightings in the region, and the remote forest is an ideal habitat.
http://www.canada.com/fortstjohn/story. ... 010a22e5a3

Many of the reports about the Manitoba sighting and filming have
quoted a University of Manitoba zoologist named James Hare, who is
skeptical about the existence of Bigfoot. For those of you
interested in his qualifications on this matter, here is what the
University of Manitoba website has to say about him:

J. F. Hare - [email protected]

My research focuses on questions pertaining to the evolution and
maintenance of sociality. To address those questions, I have
employed both field research on ground-dwelling squirrels and
controlled laboratory and field experiments on slave-making ants.

Current Studies: Currently I am studying the seemingly rich vocal
repertoire of Richardson's ground squirrels and have commenced
research on Franklin's ground squirrel. While social behaviour
remains the primary focus of that work, the system offers unique
opportunities to consider mating systems, dispersal, habitat use and
variety of interspecific interactions.

Selected Publications:

Hare, J.F., Sealy, S.G., Underwood, T.J., Ellison, K.S. and Stewart,
R.L.M. (2003) Evidence of self-referent phenotype matching
revisited: airing out the armpit effect. Anim. Cogn. 6: 65-68.
Hare, J. F. & Atkins, B.A. (2001) The squirrel that cried wolf:
reliability detection by juvenile Richardson's ground squirrels
(Spermophilus richardsonii). Behav. Ecol. Sociobiol. 51: 108-112.

Hare, J.F. & Alloway, T.M. (2001) Prudent Protomognathus and
despotic Leptothorax duloticus: differential costs of ant slavery.
Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 98: 12093-12096.

Warkentin, K.J., Keeley, A.T.H. & Hare, J.F. (2001) Repetitive calls
of Richardson's ground squirrels (Spermophilus richardsonii)
communicate response urgency. Can. J. Zool. 79: 569-573.

In Press

Hare, J.F. & Murie, J.O. Ecology, Kinship and Ground Squirrel
Sociality: Insights from Comparative Analyses. In: Sherman, P.W. &
Wolff, J.O. (eds.). The Rodent Societies. University of Chicago
Press.

Sloan, J.L. & Hare, J.F. Monotony and the information content of
Richardson's ground squirrel (Spermophilus richardsonii) repeated
calls: tonic communication or signal certainty? Ethology 110.

Wilson, D.R. & Hare, J.F. Richardson's ground squirrels
(Spermophilus richardsonii) do not communicate predator movements
via changes in call rate. Can. J. Zool.


As you can see, he seems to specialize in ground squirrels and
ants. So why he is suddenly qualified to comment on Bigfoot
sightings?

 

[Leaferne]

He was at the nearest university? (I believe there are only 2 or 3 in all of Manitoba)

 

[Anonymous]

I really want to see this

 

[AnthonyClifton]

Re: Bigfoot sighting in northern Manitoba

About 500 people in the community have seen the video, and they (including many experienced hunters) say it's not a bear, moose, elk, etc. Two RCMP have seen it but remain skeptical. The only detail my coworker could remember is that the thing was human-like and about 3 feet across at the shoulders.

Last summer, while fishing in Southern Ontario, my brothers saw a human-like creature standing about 10 miles in from Highway 11 on a logging road around dusk.

As they caught sight of him, they slowed down, coming to a stop about 30 meters away from him. He was over 6 feet tall, dressed in what appeared to be dark furs, with his arms apparently to the side and his legs spread slightly apart.

He just stood there and stared at them. One brother looked at the other and said, "This is gonna get weird."

They assumed it was some angry local who they'd pissed off somehow on the way into the lake they were fishing.

My brother creeped the truck forward to see if the man-thing would move or give some indication of his intention. He just stood perfectly still, staring.

Finally, just as one brother was about to say to the other, "It's time to leave." the driving brother slammed the truck into reverse and prepared to back out of there at speed if necessary in case the man-thing came running after them.

Just as he did so, the man-thing appeared to step to the side. They stopped and watched as the torso lengthened and two more legs sprouted miraculously from the body.

It was a moose.

(As they told the story to those of us who had been fishing on another lake that day, they said that, had they took off any sooner, they wouldn't have seen the animal move and would have sworn up and down that they'd seen Sasquatch.)

Edit: (I should mention that both my brothers are experienced outdoorsmen. They have hunted and fished all their lives. And they have witnessed and hunted many, many large animals in the woods.)

 

[Leaferne]

Last summer, while fishing in Southern Ontario, my brothers saw a human-like creature standing about 10 miles in from Highway 11 on a logging road around dusk.

Whereabout, Anthony, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Philo_T]

Re: Bigfoot sighting in northern Manitoba

About 500 people in the community have seen the video, and they (including many experienced hunters) say it's not a bear, moose, elk, etc. Two RCMP have seen it but remain skeptical. The only detail my coworker could remember is that the thing was human-like and about 3 feet across at the shoulders.

Last summer, while fishing in Southern Ontario, my brothers saw a human-like creature standing about 10 miles in from Highway 11 on a logging road around dusk.

As they caught sight of him, they slowed down, coming to a stop about 30 meters away from him. He was over 6 feet tall, dressed in what appeared to be dark furs, with his arms apparently to the side and his legs spread slightly apart.

He just stood there and stared at them. One brother looked at the other and said, "This is gonna get weird."

They assumed it was some angry local who they'd pissed off somehow on the way into the lake they were fishing.

My brother creeped the truck forward to see if the man-thing would move or give some indication of his intention. He just stood perfectly still, staring.

Finally, just as one brother was about to say to the other, "It's time to leave." the driving brother slammed the truck into reverse and prepared to back out of there at speed if necessary in case the man-thing came running after them.

Just as he did so, the man-thing appeared to step to the side. They stopped and watched as the torso lengthened and two more legs sprouted miraculously from the body.

It was a moose.

(As they told the story to those of us who had been fishing on another lake that day, they said that, had they took off any sooner, they wouldn't have seen the animal move and would have sworn up and down that they'd seen Sasquatch.)

Edit: (I should mention that both my brothers are experienced outdoorsmen. They have hunted and fished all their lives. And they have witnessed and hunted many, many large animals in the woods.)

Excellent story illustrating how Fortean a subject perception is!
Thanks for sharing A.C.!

 

[AnthonyClifton]

Last summer, while fishing in Southern Ontario, my brothers saw a human-like creature standing about 10 miles in from Highway 11 on a logging road around dusk.

Whereabout, Anthony, if you don't mind me asking?

Not at all.

It was somewhere in this neighborhood, up near a reservoir called Marmion NNE of Atikokan, Ontario. This was in the last week of June, 2004.

It's a wonderful area, just to the north of the Quetico/Boundary Waters. Wildlife. Incredible scenary. Great walleye fishing. Psychic ladies at gas stations, which I described in this post.

I love it!

 

[Human_84]

see next page

 

[AnthonyClifton]

BC: I saw a big dark figure, ah at first i guess i thought it was a moose standing there but then it starded walking. and thats when i grabbed my camera and recorded it , pretty big, very big, i figure its pretty big so i donno, it's large, a large dark object.

CJ: now Garnet

BC: my brother?

CJ: your brother, he was saying that it could have been, just from comparing it to the trees in the back ground, about ten feet tall

BC: ya, it could be at least ten feet tall

CJ: it was pretty apparant that it wasnt walking on four legs it was on it's it was on two legs?

BC: it was on two ya.

CJ: when it walked back into the bush was it sprinting or just kind of

BC: it was just walking into the bush, nothing fast

Well, now I'm VERY curious whether it walked directly away from him or if it moved at all perpendicular to his sight line.

(Mind you, I'm not a Skeptic when it comes to strange animals seen in the woods but, if I were interviewing him, I would have had a hard time resisting the urge to ask, "So was this dark moving object, by any chance, being followed by a...flying squirrel? Or, perhaps, some sinister yet bungling spies?" Did you hear a high-pitched voice say in the distance, "And now here's something you'll REALLY like!"?)

The problem with the Sasquatch-are-really-Moose theory is that similar creatures are reported in places where there are no moose. I suppose other animals could be mistaken for large man-things but then the problem is that you have an ever growing network of animals that look like each other. A moose looks like a man. A bear looks like a man. Therefore, a moose looks like a bear. A deer looks like a man. So a deer looks like both a bear and a moose also. And so on.

So, on the one hand, it becomes necessarily more and more complex to believe that all Sasquatch sightings are cases of mistaken identity.

But, on the other hand, I live in a country where 51% of the population believes it's worse to lie about a sexual relationship with a consenting adult than to lie about one's reasons for taking an entire nation to war.

 

[Human_84]

I'm putting this onto page 4 now because people are now disregarding page 3 since page4 is up............

Heres some fourth hand information for u all. Heres a bobby clarke interview that was aired on the radio up there.

This came from a forumer on bigfootforums.com who had gotten it off a blog somewhere online that he typed out from a taped interview on teh radio and now I give it to you all at fortean times.

Sasquatch Interview - April 26th /05

This is what ive been yakkin' about all morning long, this is that exclusive interview cj1240 has with Mr. Bobby Clarke the

man who allegedly has footage of a sasquatch or bigfoot or unknown animal up by Norway House, he was a ferry operator who has

caught uh, a couple of satudays back and he came out an announced that he has this video and it's been getting attention all

accross north america, and ive been speaking with his wife Winnie and his brother Garnet Henry over the past week and finally

got in touch with Mr Bobby Clark, and here is the interview.

CJ: Now uh, Bobby, you guys took the video tape down to Winnipeg correct?

BC: That's Correct.

CJ: Where did you take it down there?

BC: mid-cam or something like that.

CJ: was it a specialist looking at it trying to enhance the video?

BC: he took a look at it and said no, we cant do anything about it.

CJ: ok it's pretty unclear then?

BC: ya.

CJ: what did the video itself look like? i realize that it was across the river and it was pretty early in the morning 6:30

or so, was it pretty dark?

BC: no, there was alot of light already

CJ: can you describe it in your words, what you saw?

BC: what i saw?

CJ: ya.

BC: I saw a big dark figure, ah at first i guess i thought it was a moose standing there but then it starded walking. and

thats when i grabbed my camera and recorded it , pretty big, very big, i figure its pretty big so i donno, it's large, a

large dark object.

CJ: now Garnet

BC: my brother?

CJ: your brother, he was saying that it could have been, just from comparing it to the trees in the back ground, about ten

feet tall

BC: ya, it could be at least ten feet tall

CJ: it was pretty apparant that it wasnt walking on four legs it was on it's it was on two legs?

BC: it was on two ya.

CJ: when it walked back into the bush was it sprinting or just kind of

BC: it was just walking into the bush, nothing fast

CJ: you must have been pretty shakin up when you saw this

BC: it didnt really bug me till later on that afternoon

CJ: when you later realized what it was you had seen?

BC: ya, later when i realized, it didnt effect me in any way , not right off the batcause of my duties at work i guess,

just had to keep on workin, not trying to let it bug me.

CJ: i just kinda have to ask you this because obviously there's gonna be alot of skeptics, what ive heard from your wife and

your brother, it seems pretty genuine it doesnt seem like you guys are trying to pull the wool over anybodies eyes, and your

not trying to say one thing or the other, your just trying to get answers yourselves.

BC: ya, ya thats for sure, we are trying to get our own answers too.

CJ: and actually you have been contacted by more than obviously ourselves have you heard from the local newspapers in

Winnipeg , and the National?

BC: Nationally yes, Ive had a few phone calls, from california, one in florida and other places like that.

CJ::you guys were recieving alot of offers?

BC: no, nobody making any offers now. I told them that i was gonna keep the video and that was it. That was that.

CJ: so you dont have any plans to release the video, because we have been getting alot of calls at cj1240 here in The Pas

just wondering if I knew of anything of when the general public would maybe get to take alook at the video, is that goign to

be a possiblity or is that something that you guys are gonna decide on your own time.

BC: It's hard to say right now at the moment, not really sure when I will be able to release the video, soon as they find

out more about it too i guess, that's when i'll release it.

CJ: you do have more plans on taking the video elsewhere and getting different specialists to look at it?


BC: no, we havent had any other plans at all

CJ: so you really didnt find out a whole lot when you took it down to Winnipeg , they just said that they could do much with

the tape?

BC: The first one that we took it to down there was trying to tinker with it , i dont know, i dont really know if that woman

knew what she was doing

CJ: oh really?

BC: ya., maybe she was just some kind of editor or something like that, im not really surem but she was talking about some

other guy, that she works with i guess, said maybe that he could have done alot better job with it.

CJ: so when you first really got the tape, were you kind of hesitant to tell anybody about it or ask questions?

BC: ya i was very very hesitant about it, to ask anybody about it.

CJ: so what made you come out and speak about it?

BC: I don't know, it just happened so fast, everything is just a blur right nowm so i dont really know.

CJ: so when you see something like that, you might just be pretty scared to show it and recieve some kind of backlash from

some sort of people. But from what i have heard, you guys have show the video to quit a few friends and family up in norway

house and the response has been pretty unanimous, nobody really knows what it is, doesnt really look like a hunter, its

obviously not a moose or a bear . whats your personal opinion? do you put any stock in any sort of mythical thing like a

sasquatch or a bigfoot, do you think that is a possibllity on your mind?

BC: yes, i think so ya, i dont think this is the first time ive seen something like this, it's the first time ive ever

caught something on camera for sure, yes i think so , ya.

CJ: and alot of peaple where asking why you had the camera with you?

BC: well i just recently bought this camera for my wife for christmas and i just decided to take it cause i just went out

hunting, geese hunting, out in the bush here and i take it aroubd just about everywhere i go now.

CJ: can i just get you to describe just the events briefly which is leading up to what you saw?

BC: what i saw?

CJ: ya.

BC: it happened so fast, there is so much pressure and media, i'll tell you what i tell everybody, i just got to work that

morning , i went across to pick up a vehicle that showed up on the other side of the river and then i came back. I was out

side in the back by the (inaudible) cabin there, i seen this, i had like an eerie feeling like someone was looking at me, and

i had to turn around, so that's how this dark figure arcoss the river! it was standing still there for a while, it started

walking there, thats when i ran for my the camera,

CJ: and after you grabbed the camera, did it seem to notice you, did it appear to notice you across the river?

BC: probably ya, it probably noticed me, why shouldnt it, the ferry is very very loud

CJ: and the animal just walked back into the bush?

BC: ya

CJ: but either way, it sounds to me like you caught some pretty fantatic footage of this animal, would you mind if we kept in

contact with you whenever you guys find something out so we can get updates from you?

BC: ya sure, i dont think that would be a problem, its just alot of people phoning and wanting interviews and people asking

me to send them the original copy and letting them do this editing for free.

CJ: eventually you might take this video elsewhere and get more answers

BC: yes, ill probably try that, as soon as i get more money. i dont want anybody elses money i guess you can say.

CJ: your not interested in the money side , you just want the answers

BC: I just want the answers now, yes.



-==End of Interview=--

 

[Kondoru]

Sheesh

Now you lot, dont go mistaking me for a bird, just because I have a beek and wings, eh?

 

[MrRING]

It's going to be on the syndicated A Current Affar program tomorrow. And they showed some of the footage in the ad I saw.... and it's really grainy. It's no Patterson film, from what I can tell....

 

[lopaka]

Excellent, Mr. R.I.N.G. Thanks for the heads-up. This seems like a good overview. And it does sound as if it's pretty inconclusive footage, even from pro-sasquatch people. Which of course doesn't at all deter me from being parked in front of the TV when it airs tomorrow.

Bigfoot video makes big dollars
Canadian sasquatch story -- complete with video of a massive, hairy beast -- will air on Fox

By DAWN WALTON

Tuesday, May 3, 2005 Updated at 8:15 AM EDT

From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

CALGARY — Canadian sasquatch story -- complete with video of a massive, hairy beast -- will air tomorrow night on A Current Affair, the granddaddy of American tabloid television, the Fox network said.

However, since the program broadcasts only in the United States, Canadians without special cable service or satellite who are interested in catching a glimpse of the video that grabbed headlines around the world will have to be content with watching a snippet of Northern Manitoba's supposed sasquatch on the Internet (http://www.acurrentaffair.com <http://www.acurrentaffair.com>).

The network said yesterday that its bigfoot segment will be posted on its website for international viewers on Thursday.

Matt Moneymaker, a sasquatch hunter and the director of the U.S.-based Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, has viewed the video, which was shot along the Nelson River about 500 kilometres north of Winnipeg.

"For those of us who have been studying authentic footage and debunking bogus footage for a long time, the full circumstances of this incident point to a credible encounter," Mr. Moneymaker says on his organization's website.

He describes the image as blurry and shot from a distance, but clearly not an illusion caused by light, a bear or fabrication.

"[It is] a dark, upright, primate figure, with arms and legs somewhat like a human, standing on a riverbank," he writes.

"[It is] either a human or a sasquatch, but among those two candidates it is not clearly one or the other, due to the blurriness of the footage."

Bobby Clarke, the videographer who lives in Norway House, Man., has received an undisclosed amount of money for giving the Fox program first crack at airing the video, according to his family.

Mr. Clarke is a ferry operator who was working an early morning shift when he spotted something peculiar on the river bank.

The images, shot with a camcorder that he is rarely without, show about 30 seconds of a huge, hairy creature some viewers have described as perhaps three metres tall.

The video has been viewed by hundreds of people in Mr. Clarke's mother's living room in their remote community.

When interest from media outlets and sasquatch aficionados started flooding in from around the world, Mr. Clarke stopped taking calls and his mother cut off access to the video.

The family began looking for a buyer and experts to view the tape. According to Langford Saunders, who is a town councillor in Norway House and the uncle of Mr. Clarke's wife, the folks at A Current Affair seemed the most interested and were the first to make the trek north.

Mr. Saunders won't talk finances, but the gossip going around bigfoot tracking circles is an amount in the six figures.

"It's a long-term thing for the family and for tourism in the community," Mr. Saunders said.

Mr. Saunders said it was important to the family to have the video assessed by an expert and they were thrilled with Mr. Moneymaker's opinion.

"We weren't too sure what we have. Now we are," Mr. Saunders said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... rtainment/

 

[Anonymous]

check out http://www.acurrentaffair.com/index.php for a sneak preview of the film.

I think we will have to wait for digital enhancements of the footage to shed a bit more light on it (literally)

 

[Reddeath0]

FAKE!!!!!!!

I just watched the clip and I would like to be the first one to say :furious: its a hoax!

 

[Anonymous]

I think its a hoax or a bigfoot, i think we can rule out another animal being mistaken for a bigfoot.

But the film quality on that preview is too poor, i did a print screen and viewed it in paint, then magnified it and could not get anything.

 

[Kondoru]

Great Scott!

And they paid a six figure sum for `that`??

 

[Mighty_Emperor]

Why couldn't it just be blurry footage of someone wandering along? They say it is too tall to be a human but we know from some of the ABC footage that getting the scale of something drastically wrong is easy to do so just going by height.....

 

[Anonymous]

They need to film a human walking in the same place and film it from the same point.

 

[Human_84]

They need to film a human walking in the same place and film it from the same point.

Its so impossible to judge how far out in the water it is. Thats why I dont think this can be accurately done. What REALLY needs to be done at this point is Bobby Clarke needs to keep on taking that camera to work, because his bigfoot is likely to show again soon.

 

[elffriend]

Hoax.....hoax.....hoax

 

[Human_84]

I wont leave you guys outta the loop. So whatever good comes up, or whatever pertinant things I post at bigfootforums, I will put here as well...

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Current Affair Preview Video [17 Secs, 5 MEGS]

Either click on it and be prepared to wait until 5 megs are downloaded, or right click and "save-as" somewhere and open from there.

Courtesy of uffda320 (at bigfootforums.com) for capturing the video with his camera. I'm just hosting this. Its the same thing as on currentaffairs website. Just easier to watch directly in media player. Do not redistribute, take, use, borrow, rebroadcast, or sell for money! Its just to hold us over for a couple of hours people until the show tonight. Doesnt take much to entertain us huh?

And heres a frame from it that i captured. Probably the best frame I can come across SO FAR in this clip, as far as clarity....

That is an arm you see on the left. Yeah, that suckers big whatever it is.

 

[Human_84]

Guys, I've added a 2x Zoom, a bit of sharpening, 50% speed, and spliced the 3 zoomed clips togethor, also ALOT of brightening which brings out the figure, some other things too. Oh and a nice title screen! (ducks)

Sharpened, Slowed, Brightened, Zoomed, and Joined, 17 Secs 1 MEG