Minor Strangeness

IbisNibs

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I was wondering why, although it states 18 members on line now, only 15 are listed.
Was that 18 members, or 18 total?
I suppose that's a silly question.
I just looked (in another window so I wouldn't lose this page) to double check if guests are listed at all (they are). I thought maybe the mystery 3 were guests, not ghosts.
There are, right now, 87 guests!!! Zillions!!! Who are they?!!?
 

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My most recent loss was a favourite pair of jeans. I've combed through everything here multiple times, no luck. I guess we just need to enjoy/make the best use of what we have for the possibly brief time we retain possession of it, and not be too surprised if some day it suddenly vanishes.
Ah now I know ALL about missing jeans.

Thing with them is that they need pressing after washing. However, some people think jeans'll be OK if they're whipped out of a hot dryer and left dangling on a hook to cool down, or maybe carefully folded. Both methods work. So jeans that've been tumble-dried might be on a peg or folded up.

Or they might be in the ironing pile, possibly even inside-out if they've been removed after drink taken.

So missing jeans are probably hanging up somewhere or already folded and put away.

All these lessons came to me when I was mainly responsible for laundering the clothes of a family of 6, all of whom wore jeans. A constant denim tsunami.
 

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Was that 18 members, or 18 total?
I suppose that's a silly question.
I just looked (in another window so I wouldn't lose this page) to double check if guests are listed at all (they are). I thought maybe the mystery 3 were guests, not ghosts.
There are, right now, 87 guests!!! Zillions!!! Who are they?!!?
Some of the guests are people just lurking. Others are search engines indexing the website.
 

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A few years back I had come home after work and took off my jacket with my car keys still in my hand. In the process, I accidentally let go of them and in theory the only places they could have landed is on the floor or they could have still been in my jacket sleeve. However, they never ever reappeared and I had to root out the spare key which I continued to use till I got rid of the car. To this day I cannot figure out where they vanished to?
Ah now you'll like this -
Monsters Among Us Podcast

Sn. 8 Ep. 3.5 - UFO's, ghosts and more disappearing objects

At about 34:38, Michelle relates one of the many strange things that have happened to her. Reminds me very much of your keys incident.

She was wearing a hoodie while house-cleaning and placed a bottle lid in the hoodie pocket. Later she reached into the pocket, grasped the lid and pulled it out of the pocket and it disappeared from her closed hand.

18 months later she wore the hoodie again and found the lid in the pocket.
 
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Had an upset stomach last night and in the early hours was sitting when all the lights went out.
They came back not long afterwards and I was thinking that we would have to reset the clocks in the morning.
The odd thing is that the clock on the oven has not worked for months despite all our attempts to fix it, although the oven itself still works.
This morning the time was flashing merrily along with all the other electronic clocks.
 

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My most recent loss was a favourite pair of jeans. I've combed through everything here multiple times, no luck. I guess we just need to enjoy/make the best use of what we have for the possibly brief time we retain possession of it, and not be too surprised if some day it suddenly vanishes.
Losing a pair of jeans should be impossible when you think about it (and will drive you nuts if you do!). In theory, there are only a finite number of places where they could be but when you've searched everywhere over a dozen times, you have to resign yourself to the fact that they've simply vanished! The thing that mystifies me, is how easily we accept that things have disappeared and just move on. We may wonder about the missing item sometimes but other than that, it becomes an anecdote we tell others when they too experience an inexplicable loss of some sort. I think this phenomena should be discussed in parliament and maybe even assemble some sort of specialist team (available 24/7) to respond to instances of loss! Things can't just disappear yet time and time again, THEY DO!!!!
 

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Ah now you'll like this -
Monsters Among Us Podcast

Sn. 8 Ep. 3.5 - UFO's, ghosts and more disappearing objects

At about 34:38, Michelle relates one of the many strange things that have happened to her. Reminds me very much of your keys incident.

She was wearing a hoodie while house-cleaning and placed a bottle lid in the hoodie pocket. Later she reached into the pocket, grasped the lid and pulled it out of the pocket and it disappeared from her closed hand.

18 months later she wore the hoodie again and found the lid in the pocket.
Thanks, I'm going to listen to it right away!
 

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Losing a pair of jeans should be impossible when you think about it (and will drive you nuts if you do!). In theory, there are only a finite number of places where they could be but when you've searched everywhere over a dozen times, you have to resign yourself to the fact that they've simply vanished! The thing that mystifies me, is how easily we accept that things have disappeared and just move on. We may wonder about the missing item sometimes but other than that, it becomes an anecdote we tell others when they too experience an inexplicable loss of some sort. I think this phenomena should be discussed in parliament and maybe even assemble some sort of specialist team (available 24/7) to respond to instances of loss! Things can't just disappear yet time and time again, THEY DO!!!!
The Mrs frequently loses her trousers in our house. No other clothing. Just her trousers. It's become a running joke. I can understand people mis placing small items like keys and the like but she regularly can't find her trousers .. it's weird.
 

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The thing that mystifies me, is how easily we accept that things have disappeared and just move on
An accurate and objective comment. And it's key to why we lose things in the first place.

But firstly: people who are 'messy' (ie leave everything lying about the place) rarely lose anything. Because (unless there are interlocking merged piles) messy people have a 1:1 scale map of where everything is: because everything is where they've put it. This can (please: just for now) be thought of as being quintessentially-male. Function wins over form. Searches result in rapid finds, because nothing is ever truly-concealed, and (vitally) everything is interrelationally-located, in a physical version of what human 'memory magicians' recommend as an effective retreival technique.

People who are tidy run the risk of losing stuff if they fall into the trap of applying superficial storage structure without true indexing. Such people often have to resort to serially-searching every one in a sequence of similar-but-indistinct locations: "it was in the very-last place I looked!". The fractional majority of adherents to this system are female (but read on).

(Please remember that the above is just neurotypical hyperbole- bellcurve extremities intended for illustration).

I've read elsewhere that (sterotypically, it would appear) many women often tend to lose (no: misplace) their jeans, relative to men. There may be a number of contributory factors in this:
  • Reported tendency to use drawers rather than hangers *for trousers* (inverse of typical male behaviour....no, I can't cite my source....at present)
  • Smaller garment sizes (statistically) than men's jeans: inherently more-loseable
  • Far fewer pairs of jeans than men (I postulate statistical averages, don't pelt me with outliers)
  • Far fewer pairs of jeans that fit (ie but existing within a possessed superset of jeans that >don't< currently-fit....I have seen this behaviour displayed by my SO and non-male children
  • Vastly-greater quantity of clothing possessed by individual women than their co-habiting partners (this is often utterly-untrue...but more often it IS true)
Maybe this was part of a psych Masters thesis I read (goes into deep thinking mode....and takes cover)
 

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... people who are 'messy' (ie leave everything lying about the place) rarely lose anything. Because (unless there are interlocking merged piles) messy people have a 1:1 scale map of where everything is: because everything is where they've put it. This can (please: just for now) be thought of as being quintessentially-male. Function wins over form. Searches result in rapid finds, because nothing is ever truly-concealed, and (vitally) everything is interrelationally-located, in a physical version of what human 'memory magicians' recommend as an effective retreival technique.

People who are tidy run the risk of losing stuff if they fall into the trap of applying superficial storage structure without true indexing. Such people often have to resort to serially-searching every one in a sequence of similar-but-indistinct locations: "it was in the very-last place I looked!". The fractional majority of adherents to this system are female (but read on). ...
My experience and observations support the central distinction you've outlined here, which I'll translate (into my own terms) as:

- Primary indexing based on an experiential schema, history or principle (e.g. Where will I need it? Where do I leave it?)
versus
- Primary indexing based on a more abstract scheme (e.g., X in the X drawer; Y articles on the **** end of the closet hanger rod)

The former derives from (typically routine) actions or expected actions, whereas the latter is simply imposed as good practice.

The former more closely connects standard / possible item locations with experience, whereas the latter connects the locations with an abstraction.

In dealing with an MIA item the former more readily supports reasoning from a basis of "what did I do", whereas the latter hobbles reasoning by linking it to "what I should have done" or "where it should be."

Because misplaced items are often the result of incidental aberrations in routines, actions or circumstances the former approach is more likely to yield decisive clues. For example, retracing your steps from the car into the residence earlier today naturally plays more usefully into the former approach rather than the latter approach.
 

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Losing a pair of jeans should be impossible when you think about it (and will drive you nuts if you do!). In theory, there are only a finite number of places where they could be but when you've searched everywhere over a dozen times, you have to resign yourself to the fact that they've simply vanished!
Nope, they're still present unless you've somehow managed to remove them from the premises. They're where they should be but they look different so you don't recognise them. You have been staring at them thinking they are, I dunno, those ones you don't like and were going to keep for painting in.
 

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The other week I put a book away that i had just finished and the bookmark fell out onto a box with vinyl records in them. It has gone and I simply cannot find it.

The boomark in question has a 3d skull on it, randomly from Fresno, California (I bought in a hotel 'cos I liked it). I didn't see any nightcrawlers either.
 

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Re: Missing jeans.

The answer is in the clue 'Arnold Layne ?'.

Mine were stolen from the washing line because no one thought to bring them in at nightfall.

In the case of Arnold Layne, 'Moonshine washing Line' explains it.

For those who may be a bit confused, listen to Pink Floyd's 'Arnold Layne' track.
 

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This can (please: just for now) be thought of as being quintessentially-male. Function wins over form. Searches result in rapid finds, because nothing is ever truly-concealed, and (vitally) everything is interrelationally-located, in a physical version of what human 'memory magicians' recommend as an effective retreival technique.

People who are tidy run the risk of losing stuff if they fall into the trap of applying superficial storage structure without true indexing. Such people often have to resort to serially-searching every one in a sequence of similar-but-indistinct locations: "it was in the very-last place I looked!". The fractional majority of adherents to this system are female (but read on).


Maybe this was part of a psych Masters thesis I read (goes into deep thinking mode....and takes cover)
And the cruelest thing a woman can do to a man is (drum roll)

Tidy up after him.
 

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In the case of Arnold Layne, 'Moonshine washing Line' explains it.
Explique Jeans? Mais non
Je ne comprend pas....
C'est serge de nim, sûrement?
Écoute....Syd écrit:
"See-through baby blue"
C'est lingerie, le chemise de nuit
Tu accord?
(Nightie matin, et bien dorme)
 

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New minor strangeness:
Somewhere on this forum (in different thread I think but I'm too lazy to look for it now), there was a quip about a dog that wink, wink! we pretended could drive. That was last week.
Since then, there has been a news item I've seen or heard about a different dog everyday that actually drove a car!
Real life has been imitating forum humor.
 

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Last year, I went to a witch's market and while there I had my fortune told. The tarot reader gave me her business card, but I must have misplaced it immediately because I never saw it again. Until yesterday, that is, when I was hunting through my purse. I suddenly felt a card, pulled it out and there it was.

The purse is only a few months old, as well as my wallet, and I clear it out every week or so. Where the heck did the card come from? Perhaps it's a sign that I should give the reader a call!
 

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I'm very drawn to Escargot's idea that when we're looking for the "thing" we're often looking right at it but remember it differently so don't see it.

Recently I was reading a thread on this very forum that I hadn't seen before (can't remember which one now) Read a post I wanted to "like" but as I went to do so I noticed I'd already done it!? And "liked" a couple of later posts which I have no memory of reading, but the evidence proves otherwise.

Also, when looking for dropped items, never underestimate the dastardly blind spot! It moves as you do :willy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_spot_(vision)
 

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Another incident to report!

Earlier this evening, I was out on my bike getting some groceries. I noticed on the way home that my small silicone bike light -- which I'm either wearing around one of my gloved fingers or otherwise leave dangling from the middle of the handle of my front bike basket -- was not on the basket handle (the silicone forms a closed loop, and there's a rounded plastic clip next to the little light itself that you attach it to, after passing it through something on the bike; I loop my back light through the cargo net on the back basket, but the front one is just looped around the basket handle). I thought that maybe it had come loose when I put my bag of groceries into the basket, and fallen into it without my noticing. I made a note to check for it when I got back.

As it happens, I did not get around to removing those groceries (just a few pounds of coffee I got on sale, and some kiwi fruit) for a few hours, but when I finally went to remove the grocery bag from the basket, that's when I noticed: the silicone bike light was there dangling in its usual spot on the handle!
 
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Wife lost a Simon's cat badge about a week ago, she was well annoyed it had been on her bag
one of those badges with a point on the back that goes through a clip, she thought it had been
pulled off by getting caught in the shopping trolly at the super market, anyway yesterday she
picked up her boots and noticed the badge had impaled it's self in the sole, it had decided to
make it's way home, happy wife, good job it had not come off at home when one of us may
have had bare feet, Sions cat must be a friendly sort.
 

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Wife lost a Simon's cat badge about a week ago, she was well annoyed it had been on her bag
one of those badges with a point on the back that goes through a clip, she thought it had been
pulled off by getting caught in the shopping trolly at the super market, anyway yesterday she
picked up her boots and noticed the badge had impaled it's self in the sole, it had decided to
make it's way home, happy wife, good job it had not come off at home when one of us may
have had bare feet, Sions cat must be a friendly sort.
You guys put badges on your cats? No wonder we threw the tea into the harbor.
 

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The Mrs frequently loses her trousers in our house. No other clothing. Just her trousers. It's become a running joke. I can understand people mis placing small items like keys and the like but she regularly can't find her trousers .. it's weird.
Presumably they eventually turn up [sic], otherwise she'd be forever buying new trousers.
 

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Presumably they eventually turn up [sic], otherwise she'd be forever buying new trousers.
They do. I've suggested she should be more methodical .. I always put my glasses and both my watches (the small one's set 5 minutes fast so I'm never late for work) in the same place for examples .. she's just random with where she ditches her outside trousers in favour of changing into inside trousers. She does it all the flippin time!.
 
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