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My Stuffed Lion Is My Lawyer

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B.C. couple loses child custody after stuffed lion purportedly transmitting the word of God acted as their lawyer

http://vancouversun.com/news/canada...wyer/wcm/ddcd15c1-0661-44f3-b0f4-debeeb530ddb

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A B.C. couple whose religious views are too extreme even for churches and pastors and put them at odds with family, doctors, social workers and anyone else trying to help them with their daughter, have lost their battle for custody of her.

The unusual child custody trial featured the couple speaking in tongues to a stuffed animal they said transmitted the word of God directly to them and refusing legal assistance because Jesus Christ — through the stuffed lion — was their lawyer, witness and judge.
 
kamalktk said:
B.C. couple loses child custody after stuffed lion purportedly transmitting the word of God acted as their lawyer

http://vancouversun.com/news/canada...wyer/wcm/ddcd15c1-0661-44f3-b0f4-debeeb530ddb

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A B.C. couple whose religious views are too extreme even for churches and pastors and put them at odds with family, doctors, social workers and anyone else trying to help them with their daughter, have lost their battle for custody of her.

The unusual child custody trial featured the couple speaking in tongues to a stuffed animal they said transmitted the word of God directly to them and refusing legal assistance because Jesus Christ — through the stuffed lion — was their lawyer, witness and judge.
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This takes to the extreme the adage: "A man who is his own lawyer has a fool for his client."

"A couple who has a stuffed toy as their lawyer are absolutely hatstand", perhaps, with thanks to Viz Comic for the use of the word hatstand.

More seriously, they sound deluded beyond belief. I don't know anything about Canadian family law, but I'm guessing the natural inclination of the courts would be to keep the child with the family, but in this case that was so clearly not possible. It's almost like an absurdist play by Ionesco, or something by Kafka, a stuffed toy channeling Christ! (That said, the pic used by the paper is of a very cute kittycat!)
 
Might have worked if they'd claimed it was Aslan speaking to them through the toy lion.
 
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Christ's Ventriloquists: the events that created Christianity (buying/reading this book is on my to-do list)

I do think that priests and holy men (whether of established semi-state religions, or of any stripe :13th:) have an inevitably-tense relationship with people that are classed as mentally-ill. From any perspective (objective or otherwise), their manners/claims/styles are virtually indistinguishable from each-other.

We've had various pieces here on FTMB and in FT regarding the 'Christ in Cloth Arisen' phenomenon, where modern-day men become motivated (possessed, even?) of the deeply-held belief that they are Jesus, and head off in costume to the current Holy Land to take-up their position of authority (whether this merits the creation of a permanent reception and...'recovery' team, in terms of repeat claiments, I know not...though it sounds almost to be a possible professional niche).

Claim without proof is insubstantial, yet no religion (ever) is anything other than shared (tolerated, for the present) opinion.

HHG2G said:
I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
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EnolaGaia said:
Are we certain the lion in the press photo is the lion the couple consults in the courtroom?
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Fair point. Well, sort-of.

Are we sure that they're actually capable of discriminating between different versions of a fabric representation of the King of the Beasts?

I'd be so tempted (despite the potential sacreligious aspects) to attempt a substitution, and gauge the impact upon the communications conduit.

I feel that any hardcore Catholic/Anglican adherents to transubstantiation cannot really pull rank on this one.
 
kamalktk said:
B.C. couple loses child custody after stuffed lion purportedly transmitting the word of God acted as their lawyer http://vancouversun.com/news/canada...wyer/wcm/ddcd15c1-0661-44f3-b0f4-debeeb530ddb
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A B.C. couple whose religious views are too extreme even for churches and pastors and put them at odds with family, doctors, social workers and anyone else trying to help them with their daughter, have lost their battle for custody of her. The unusual child custody trial featured the couple speaking in tongues to a stuffed animal they said transmitted the word of God directly to them and refusing legal assistance because Jesus Christ — through the stuffed lion — was their lawyer, witness and judge.
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YHVH can be such a prankster some times. First he demands total faith without proof, then he springs this sort of thing on his poor worshipers. That plush lion toy was very talkative before the court case, and made big promises about their child custody case... then... nothing! Imagine how the poor couple felt? You can bet that YHVH will still demand his lawyer's fee though; YHVH really likes the moneys.
 
https://www.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah
The Lion of Judah is the symbol of the Hebrew tribe of Judah (the Jewish tribe). According to the Torah, the tribe consists of the descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob. The association between Judah and the lion, most likely the Asiatic lion, can first be found in the blessing given by Jacob to his son Judah in the Book of Genesis.

The Lion of Judah is also mentioned in the Book of Revelation, as a term representing Jesus, according to Christian theology. The lion of Judah was also one of the titles of the Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie and was depicted on the flag of Ethiopia from 1897-1974. Due to its association with Selassie, it continues to be an important symbol among members of the Rastafari movement.
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So from some key Judeo-Christian theology, lions=Jews and lions=Jesus.

Therefore, the King of the Animal Kingdom equates to the King of the Jews.

A question I would like to ask the lion (via its keepers, of course) would be this: if God sent the world his only begotten son, and yet we are all God's children: in the eyes of an almighty creator deity, does this mean that we are all an afterthought, an irrelevancy or an accident?
 
Ermintruder said:
https://www.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah


So from some key Judeo-Christian theology, lions=Jews and lions=Jesus.

Therefore, the King of the Animal Kingdom equates to the King of the Jews.

A question I would like to ask the lion (via its keepers, of course) would be this: if God sent the world his only begotten son, and yet we are all God's children: in the eyes of an almighty creator deity, does this mean that we are all an afterthought, an irrelevancy or an accident?
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I think you're enquiring after answers that are non-existent because the ancient times the religions were invented in had no concept of twenty-first century nitpicking.
 
GNC said:
I think you're enquiring after answers that are non-existent
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I'd certainly expect that to be the case, but any 'answers' actually produced in response could be revealing.

Further to the previously-mentioned subjective similarity between religion and psychopathy: what does happen when two seriously-extreme believers encounter each-other? I don't mean at the corporate Christianity vs Islam level, nor at the specialist subset layer (eg Reformation Protestantism vs Old-Time Catholicism).

I mean as in two individuals, who are so extreme in their personally-held wacky psychoses that they could not even countenace the existence of each-other? It would be fun to watch, from behind the sofa, wearing a full-face motorcycle helmet and earplugs.
 
AlchoPwn said:
YHVH can be such a prankster some times. First he demands total faith without proof, then he springs this sort of thing on his poor worshipers. That plush lion toy was very talkative before the court case, and made big promises about their child custody case... then... nothing! Imagine how the poor couple felt? You can bet that YHVH will still demand his lawyer's fee though; YHVH really likes the moneys.
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The lion was catatonic.
 
kamalktk said:
B.C. couple loses child custody after stuffed lion purportedly transmitting the word of God acted as their lawyer

http://vancouversun.com/news/canada...wyer/wcm/ddcd15c1-0661-44f3-b0f4-debeeb530ddb

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A B.C. couple whose religious views are too extreme even for churches and pastors and put them at odds with family, doctors, social workers and anyone else trying to help them with their daughter, have lost their battle for custody of her.

The unusual child custody trial featured the couple speaking in tongues to a stuffed animal they said transmitted the word of God directly to them and refusing legal assistance because Jesus Christ — through the stuffed lion — was their lawyer, witness and judge.
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I bet a million $$ that these freaks were not Unitarians, Methodists, Presbys, or Anglicans or prog Catholics. Why aren't sane religious screaming, protesting about this?
 
I originally thought that this thread was about an Alien Big Cat couple.......was slightly disappointed.
 
To be fair, he'd be a lot cheaper.

Maybe they wanted to lose the case. Abraham sacrificing Isaac, etc etc?:exor:


Also... could their emotional support peacock be their psychiatrist?
 
kamalktk said:
"Of course he talks!"
"Proove it!"
"Ok, lion, how do you like your steak?"
"Raw!"
"See!"
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Reminds me of the "Witchsmeller" episode of the original Black Adder, when Edmund's supposedly talking horse is brought as a witness:

Witchsmeller: A likely story. Black Satin, known in the Hierarchy of Evil as Black Satin the Loquacious, are you or are you not the servant of Satan?
(The crowd screams; Black Satin whinnies)
Harry: I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. Was that a yea or a nay?
Witchsmeller: It was a neigh, My Lord, but I don't believe a word of it.
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