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New Horizons: Mission To Pluto

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Earlier mention:

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but worth its own thread for the aims and objectives:

Pluto probe could give clues to origin of life

By Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent
(Filed: 27/12/2005)

Man will take a bold step towards the final frontier of the Solar System with the expected launch of the first mission to Pluto and beyond next month.

The piano-sized New Horizons probe will travel faster than any previous spacecraft on its journey to the planet farthest from the Sun, its moon Charon and the mysterious, icy Kuiper Belt.

Relatively little is known about the ninth planet and scientists expect the £290 million Nasa mission to provide important clues to the origins of the Solar System and possibly to life on Earth.

They will have to be patient, however. New Horizons will travel at 26,700mph over four billion miles to the only remaining planet that has not been observed at close quarters. It will arrive in the summer of 2015 at the earliest.

Alan Stern, the mission's principal investigator, said: "Exploring Pluto and the Kuiper Belt is like conducting an archaeological dig into the history of the outer Solar System, a place where we can peek into the ancient era of planetary formation.

"Everything we know for sure about Pluto is on about three 3 x 5 file cards. We don't even know what we don't know. That leaves a lot of room for discovery."

While Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars are called the rocky planets and Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are defined as gas giants, Pluto and its largest moon Charon are known as "ice dwarfs".

Pluto is the only planet whose orbit takes it into the Kuiper Belt, a flattened doughnut-shaped belt of icy, comet-like bodies in the outer Solar System.

Pluto is so different from the other planets that many astronomers say it should not be described as a planet but as one of a new class of bodies called Kuiper Belt Objects.

The Solar System was formed 4.5 billion years ago when a great cloud of gas and dust began spinning at growing speed and temperature until chunks of material were flung together to form the Sun and the planets. KBOs are the left-over building materials.

Because Pluto's surface temperature is around -230C, its chemical and structural make-up should have changed far less than that of the inner Solar System bodies.

Studying it more closely should tell us about the material from which Earth was formed.

Observation of its atmosphere may shed light on how quickly the hydrogen originally present in Earth's atmosphere escaped into space. That is important information in any attempt to simulate the environment in which life began.

Some scientists believe that bodies originating in the Kuiper Belt and having an impact on Earth were important sources of our water, atmosphere and the complex hydrocarbons that provided the building blocks of life.

When New Horizons eventually arrives, it will conduct a five-month study of the geology and geo-morphology of Pluto and Charon, map their surface compositions and temperatures and examine Pluto's atmospheric composition and structure.

The launch, from Cape Canaveral, Florida, will take place between Jan 11 and Feb 14.

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I'm guessing they will find large statues of these winged humanoid creatures with tentacled faces and some temples with strange architecture. :)

I got Shadows Over Baker Street for xmas. :)
 
Girl who named Pluto
The girl who named a planet
By Paul Rincon
BBC News science reporter



It is extremely lucky that the name was there... Whether I thought about the dark and gloomy Hades, I'm not sure
Venetia Phair

Venetia Phair isn't a name that immediately springs to mind when you mention astronomy.

But the retired teacher from Epsom in Surrey has left an indelible signature on our map of the Solar System.

Now 87 years of age, Venetia Phair (née Burney) is the only person in the world who can claim to have named a planet.

In 1930, at just 11 years of age, Mrs Phair suggested the title Pluto for the newly discovered ninth planet.

On 17 January, the US space agency (Nasa) will launch the first ever space mission to this distant world from Cape Canaveral in Florida.

Pluto, the Roman god of the Underworld, turned out to be a particularly apt title for the enigmatic object, which resides in the outer reaches of the Solar System.

Mythological name

The name proposed by the then Oxford schoolgirl was seized upon at the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, where the planet was discovered by young American astronomer Clyde Tombaugh.

"I was quite interested in Greek and Roman myths and legends at the time," Mrs Phair told the BBC News website.


"At school, we used to play games in the university park, putting - I think they were lumps of clay - at the right distance from each other to represent the distances of the planets from the Sun.
"Some of the distances I can still more or less remember, so it was probably a good lesson to have had."

On the morning of 14 March 1930, the young Venetia Burney was sitting down to breakfast in the dining room of the house in north Oxford where she lived with her grandfather Falconer Madan.

Mr Madan, who was retired as librarian at the Bodleian Library, was with her reading The Times newspaper.

When he got to an article on page 14 about the new planet's discovery, he remarked on it to Venetia.

Excellent suggestion

"I can still visualise the table and the room, but I can remember very little about the conversation," Mrs Phair said.

The article mentioned that the planet had not yet been named, prompting Venetia Burney to suggest her own.


Mr Madan was so impressed with the name Pluto, he went straight to his friend Herbert Hall Turner, professor of astronomy at the University of Oxford, and one of the leaders in the worldwide effort to produce an astrographic chart.
"It was incredibly lucky in a number of ways," Mrs Phair explains. "Firstly, I was lucky in having a grandfather who pursued the matter and knew Professor Turner.

"And it is extremely lucky that the name was there. There were practically no names left from classical mythology. Whether I thought about the dark and gloomy Hades, I'm not sure."

Interestingly, her great uncle Henry Madan had suggested the names Phobos and Deimos for the moons of Mars.

Though retired, Falconer Madan continued to visit the Bodleian library to pursue his interest in Lewis Carroll and see former colleagues.

"He walked down to the Bodleian as usual and on the way he diverged sufficiently to drop a note in at Professor Turner's house," says Mrs Phair.

Five pound reward

Ironically, the professor was out at a meeting of the Royal Astronomical Society in London where there was much speculation about the naming of the new ninth planet.

"None of them came up with Pluto. That was another stroke of luck," says Mrs Phair. When Mr Madan eventually caught up with Herbert Hall Turner, the astronomer agreed Pluto was an excellent choice.


Professor Turner promised to send a telegram, forwarding the suggestion, to the Lowell Observatory. Mrs Phair then heard nothing more on the matter for more than a month.
On 1 May 1930, the name Pluto was formally adopted. When the news went public, Mr Madan rewarded his granddaughter with a five pound note.

"This was unheard of then. As a grandfather, he liked to have an excuse for generosity," says Mrs Phair.

Mrs Phair is keen to scotch one rumour that grew up in the years after Pluto's discovery; namely that she had named the planet after Disney's cartoon dog, which also debuted in 1930.

"People were repeatedly saying: 'Ah, she named it after Pluto the dog'. It has now been satisfactorily proven that the dog was named after the planet, rather than the other way round. So, one is vindicated."

Predicted discovery

The name was apparently adopted for the ninth planet not only because it was one of the few noteworthy names from classical mythology not already taken, but also because the first two letters were the initials of Percival Lowell, the astronomer who gave his name to the observatory where Clyde Tombaugh worked.

With fellow astronomer William Pickering, Lowell had predicted the existence of a Trans-Neptunian planet. Clyde Tombaugh had found Pluto during a systematic search for such an object.

Venetia still has the press cuttings collected by her grandfather on the adoption of the name Pluto, and a kind of fame has followed her ever since.

"The professor who built the planetarium at the Leicester Space Centre was very kind and had spent quite a long time trying to trace us. When we went to visit, we were treated more or less like royalty," she says.

Over the years she has tried to follow developments on the planet she named, which is now the subject of calls from some astronomers for a demotion in status.

Since its discovery in 1930, astronomers have discovered an entire region of distant icy bodies much like Pluto called the Kuiper Belt. As such, some scientists now put Pluto amongst these Kuiper Belt Objects rather than among the planets.

Mrs Phair has been sent an invitation by Nasa to watch the New Horizons launch from Cape Canaveral, but she says she will probably have to decline the offer due to her age.

"It's interesting isn't it, that as they come to demote Pluto, so the interest in it seems to have grown," she says.

"At my age, I've been largely indifferent to [the debate]; though I suppose I would prefer it to remain a planet."
 
O! Joy! We Get to Visit Yuggoth

I have no objection to a mission to Pluto.

It's what COMES BACK from Yuggoth that I'm concerned about.

Don't these people KNOW that the planet's stuck way the hell out there for a REASON? <g>
 
Construction Shack

I just recalled that in Clifford Simak's science fiction tale "Construction Shack" Pluto is revealed to be exactly that - the construction shack utilized during the assembly of the Solar System!
 
Pluto probe set to break speed records

New Horizons is in the final stages of preparation before blasting off on its voyage to Pluto, during which it will become the fastest spacecraft ever to depart Earth.

NASA is counting down to a lift-off at 1324 EST (1824 GMT) on Tuesday, with the craft sitting atop an Atlas 5 rocket at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida, US.

The Atlas 5, one of the cape's largest rockets, will have five solid rocket motors strapped to its side, one of which had to be replaced after being damaged by Hurricane Wilma.

The 478-kilogram spacecraft will experience five times the force of Earth's gravity during its climb into space. It will reach the Moon in nine hours – the Apollo capsules took three days.

In one year the probe will slingshot around Jupiter, using the gas giant's gravity to boost its speed yet further, and one month after that it will go into hibernation mode for the rest of its journey. As it leaves Jupiter behind, it will be flying at 21 kilometres (13 miles) per second.

Tank trouble
Launch weather officer Joel Tumbiolo predicts a 20% chance of unacceptable launch weather on Tuesday, citing clouds and possible winds in the area. If launch is postponed until Wednesday, the probability of bad weather increases to 60% as a cold front moves through the area, bringing with it the possibility of clouds, rain and winds.

The launch was pushed back six days after a first-stage fuel tank split open after a high-pressure test at the factory. So technicians needed time to inspect the tank that will fly on Tuesday to ensure it did not have the same problems.

"Our tank was absolutely pristine," says NASA launch director Omar Baez. "There was no indication of any kind of defects on this tank."

On Tuesday, the launch window lasts until 1523 EST (2023 GMT). Mission managers have until 14 February to get New Horizons Pluto-bound. If the launch is after 3 February, however, New Horizons will have to skip Jupiter, and go straight to Pluto, pushing its arrival back by four years.

Pluto is the only planet in the solar system that remains unexplored by robotic probes. For more on the New Horizons science mission, see our feature on the mission, here.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn8587
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060116/ap_on_sc/pluto_plutonium
Anti-Nuke Activists Protest Pluto Mission
By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press Writer

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - More than eight years ago, hundreds of protesters chanted anti-nuclear slogans before NASA launched a spacecraft to Saturn carrying 72 pounds of plutonium fuel. The noise before this week's launch of a craft with a similar payload has been more muted.

Only 30 anti-nuclear protesters showed up recently to oppose a plutonium-fueled mission to Pluto. The most raucous it got was when protesters tied colorful origami birds to the fence of the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

"Folks tend to forget," said protest organizer Maria Telesca of the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space. But Telesca and other protesters said the threat of a nuclear accident is no less real with the New Horizons mission to Pluto than it was with the launch of Cassini to Saturn in 1997.

Plutonium fuel has been used on two other spacecrafts taking off from the Cape Canaveral area since Cassini's launch. The two Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, sent up in 2003, had much smaller amounts of plutonium, which creates energy from natural radioactive decay.

Twenty-four pounds of radioactive plutonium is located in New Horizon's radioisotope thermoelectric generator, an aluminum-encased, 123-pound cylinder, 3 1/2 feet long and 1 1/2-foot wide, that sticks out of the spacecraft like a gun on a tank.

Inside the cylinder are 18 graphite-enclosed compartments, each holding 1 1/3 pounds of the plutonium dioxide. Similar generators previously have been used to power six Apollo flights and 19 other U.S. space missions. NASA and the U.S.Department of Energy have put the probability of an early-launch accident that would cause plutonium to be released at 1 in 350 chances. NASA last year estimated the cost of decontamination, should there be a serious accident with plutonium released during the launch, at anywhere from $241 million to $1.3 billion per square mile, depending on the size of the area.

If there was an accident during an early phase of the launch, the maximum mean radiation dose received by an individual within 62 miles of the launch site would be about 80 percent of the amount each U.S. resident receives annually from natural background radiation, according to NASA's environmental impact statement.

The space agency is setting up two radiological control centers and deploying 16 mobile field teams that can detect radiation around the launch site. Medical personnel at local hospitals also have been trained in the treatment of patients exposed to radioactive materials, and the launch required the approval of the White House.

The emergency plans are ready for Tuesday, "if need be, but hopefully not," NASA launch director Omar Baez said Sunday at a news conference. Some NASA safety managers had raised concerns about the New Horizons mission when a fuel tank similar to the one expected to be used failed a pressure test during factory evaluation.

The original launch date was pushed back a few days to allow more time to examine the flight tank, but the decision ultimately was made to fly since the flight tank was in pristine condition and had no signs of any defects, Baez said.

Even if plutonium were released during an accident at launch, the risk to the population would be low because of the small amount of nuclear material and the remoteness of the launch pad from populated areas, said Alice Caponiti, nuclear material and safety manager at the Department of Energy's Office of Space and Defense Power Systems.

"Once you get a probability of an accident occurring, the question is what's the impact to people?" Caponiti said. "That's where the risk is low."
 
Pluto mission ready for lift-off

The US space agency (Nasa) is getting ready to launch a piano-sized spacecraft to Pluto, the last unexplored planet in the Solar System.

New Horizons is set to lift off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, at 1824 GMT on Tuesday aboard an Atlas 5 rocket.

Despite being the fastest probe ever built, it will still take more than nine years to reach its distant target.

Anti-nuclear activists have staged small protests about the spacecraft's 33kg payload of plutonium fuel.

The $700m (£396m) New Horizons spacecraft will gather information on Pluto and its moons before - it is hoped - pressing on to explore the icy objects that reside in the region of space known as the Kuiper Belt.

This region, which lies beyond Neptune, consists of perhaps tens of thousands of icy objects spread out between 30 and 50 times the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

Some astronomers say Pluto is not a true planet at all, and should be classed instead alongside these icy relics from the formation of the Solar System.

"What we know about Pluto today could fit on the back of a postage stamp," said Colleen Hartman, a deputy associate administrator at Nasa. "The textbooks will be rewritten after this mission is completed."

Gravity assist

Dr Stephen Lowry, of Queen's University in Belfast, commented that the mission could tell scientists much about Pluto and its moons.

"Dramatic differences on the surfaces may indicate that the system didn't form as a result of a single collision event. Perhaps some of the smaller members are gravitationally captured objects," he told the BBC News website.

If Nasa launches New Horizons before 3 February, the probe will be in position to swing by Jupiter, using the planet's gravity to pick up speed in a slingshot manoeuvre.

This will boost the probe's speed away from the Sun by nearly 4km/s, slashing the flight time to Pluto - and reducing the chances of a mission failure.
That boost will allow New Horizons to reach Pluto in July 2015. Otherwise, the journey will take until 2018 at the earliest.

New Horizons will fly by Pluto and its largest moon Charon on the same day. The spacecraft's seven instruments will gather information on Pluto's atmosphere and carry out detailed mapping of surface features on the planet and its biggest satellite.

Lots to learn

It will photograph the two small moons announced in November 2005 and check for rings around Pluto.

Dr Fran Bagenal, co-investigator on the mission, said: "We've never got a good view of what it looks like, even with the best telescopes - even with Hubble. It just looks like a fuzzy blob.

"We'll get our first glimpse of what the surface looks like and see whether there are craters, or volcanoes or frost or cracks," said Dr Bagenal.

After the Pluto encounter, it is up to Nasa to decide whether to grant the spacecraft an extended mission. Should this happen, mission scientists plan to send New Horizons to visit two Kuiper Belt Objects (KBOs) with diameters of 50km (30 miles) or more.

Scientists believe they can learn about the evolution of the Solar System by studying the Kuiper Belt since it possesses debris left over form its formation.

Window in time

"It provides for us a window 4.5 billion years back in time to observe the formation conditions of giant planets," said the mission's principal investigator Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado.

Dr Lowry said studying these other Kuiper Belt Objects could shed light on how material interacted to form planetary objects in the early Solar System.

He added that scientists could also compare the surfaces of KBOs with those of comets photographed by previous space missions. This might provide clues to how comets evolve as they journey from the outer Solar System towards the Sun, he said.

For onboard electric power, the probe will convert heat from the decay of radioactive plutonium pellets into electricity for the spacecraft's systems and science instruments. Operating so far from the Sun means New Horizons cannot use solar panels.

Nasa said there was a 1 in 350 chance of a mishap that releases plutonium around the launch site. Even so, it said, the chance of dangerous radiation exposure to workers and the public was low.

Pluto was discovered in 1930 by US astronomer Clyde Tombaugh working at the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona.

You can watch the launch live on the BBC News website at 1824GMT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4617202.stm
 
Could NASA Get To Pluto Faster? Space Expert Says Yes - By Thinking Nuclear

Artists depiction of a future nuclear propelled spacecraft bound for the outer Solar System.
by Staff Writers
Washington DC (SPX) Jan 30, 2006
As NASA's New Horizons spacecraft winds its way on a nine-year journey toward Pluto and the outer solar system, at least one expert wonders why such missions need to take so long.
Paul A. Czysz, a 30-year veteran of the industry, continuing consultant to the U.S. military and professor emeritus of aerospace engineering at St. Louis University, thinks NASA can curb the travel time to the outer planets from nearly a decade to a matter of weeks - something he considers critical for the human exploration of the solar system. What's required, he said, is a renewed commitment to nuclear propulsion.

Czysz, who with Claudio Bruno has just published the book, "Future Spacecraft Propulsion Systems" (Springer-Verlag Telos) explored this possibility recently in an interview with SpaceDaily.com.

SpaceDaily: What's wrong with existing propulsion concepts to take astronauts to Mars and beyond?

Paul Czysz: You have to look at the Russian data on microgravity (compiled over the years by long-term missions aboard the Mir space station). Anything after two years and there's an extremely significant re-adaptation of the human physiology to a zero-gravity world. It's not just that the calcium goes out of your bones. The Russian data show that the human body very quickly wants to get rid of processes that cost it energy to maintain all of this bone strength when there's no load on the bones and the heart doesn't have to pump against gravity. The one guy who stayed up well over a year was so badly deteriorated that after the Russians tried to get some of his processes to restart, they realized they had to put him back up into space for the rest of his life - but then about a week before he was going to go up, his body finally responded, but his health has never fully recovered.

SD: And he was only up on Mir for a year?

PC: He was up for 462 days. The problem is that even the Moon's gravity isn't significantly strong enough to elicit a gravity response by the human body. It has to be at least one-fourth of a G.

SD: And the Moon is one-sixth.

PC: Yes, the Moon is one-sixth G. It's marginal, and no one's been up there long enough to test it. You have to be up at least six months to tell if the processes that deal with gravity keep going or whether they start shutting down.

SD: What about introducing artificial gravity?

PC: It's not artificial. If you can produce a 1G environment - and probably half a G - you're going to have the human body respond to the gravity load and it will keep all the calcium processes going between the electrolytes and your calcium storage device, which is your skeleton, and keep all of the blood-circulation systems going. So somewhere between one-half of a G and 1G should be sufficient.

You have to look at crewed missions to deep space differently than you look at robotic missions. The New Horizons spacecraft will take eight and a half or nine years to reach Pluto, and that is too long for human spaceflight.

SD: You've said that a mission to Neptune could be accomplished in 15-and-a-half days?

PC: Yes, at 1G acceleration all the way. You're accelerating at 1G all the time, and then when you get halfway, you turn the engine around and you decelerate at 1G.

SD: Can you describe the powerplant that produces this?

PC: The Russians have said that by 2050 they will have a highly efficient system that uses an extremely small amount of propellant. It's almost a massless propulsion system. It interacts with the space energy structure, producing extremely high-velocity particles that come out of the engine.

SD: Like a stellar ramjet?

PC: No. It's a fusion device that produces extremely high-velocity particles, as much as a tenth of the speed of light.

SD: But this is only theoretical, this has not been tested, yes?

PC: It is possible to build such a thing if you can contain the reaction. A guy I know at the Keldysh Institute (for Applied Mathematics, in Moscow) who is working on this claims that by 2050 there will be such as device. The Russians are at least 35 years ahead of us on nuclear propulsion. They have nine different propulsion systems that they have used. They have been working on this ever since nuclear propulsion systems came about, and their first systems went into space in the sixties. We also had those back then. We called them Rover and Pluto. We actually ran them and they worked very well. In fact, we even blew one up, when the nozzle got clogged up with some ceramic pellets, and although some pellets flew all over the place, the next day it was cleaned up and there was no residual radiation.

SD: But as far as anything on the shelf right now …

PC: It would be Russian.

SD: So, basically what you're saying is if we want to go further than the Moon, then we've got to do it faster because we can't just pack astronauts on these one- or two- or three-year, or longer, missions and expect that their bodies won't deteriorate.

PC: Yes, and if you do robotic missions, you want those missions to be over in a reasonable amount of time. Ten years is a long time to keep a tracking crew together. You may not have to go at 1G, but you would like to be able to get there in a year or under. You could get to Pluto in less than a month, for example.

SD: You could cut 95 percent off, or more, of the flight time by switching propulsion systems?

PC: Yes, we're at the limit of our chemical systems. We're using Jupiter for a gravity assist (with New Horizons), but it would be much better if you had the right propulsion system to begin with, and that system would be nuclear.

SD: But you can't get off the surface with nuclear.

PC: No. Nuclear works best when it's in a vacuum. Then you can get the maximum thrust, and the exhaust from nuclear will always have something in it that you don't want to get into the atmosphere. But you also have to work on reducing costs - achieved, say, by not having to throw the rocket away each time, or if you establish an infrastructure in space.

When I was at Wright Paterson (Air Force Base), and when I was at McDonnell(-Douglas), with the system to supply the Manned Orbiting Laboratory, we developed a hypersonic glider that carried 7 metric tons of cargo, or 12 people - that was half a station load. The MOL required 988,000 lbs. of resources per year - about 45,000 lbs. per person - to keep the crew on the station - oxygen, water, food and everything else. This was a complement of 21 people. We calculated the cost of a fleet of 14 vehicles, including 11 operational and three spares that flew 100 times a year for 15 years. The cost per pound was about $500. When I was still teaching, TWA gave us some cost figures on the Boeing 747. We took four 747s, with one in overhaul and three operational, and flew each three times per year - nine flights per year, just like the shuttle, each carrying 32,000 pounds of cargo. The price was the same as the shuttle: $55,000 per pound.

The concept we had for the MOL was flying 11 vehicles a total of 100 times a year. That's what it took to keep that station going, with crew rotation, experiments, and getting the 988,000 lbs. of stuff up there for them to live on. The shuttle only flew (a maximum of) nine times per year, but if you were to fly the shuttle 100 times a year, the cost per pound would drop to about $800. It has nothing to do with technology. It has to do with the flight rate. If the flight rate is the same as the shuttle, even a 747 is expensive.

SD: So, if you rework your system to get payload off the ground and into orbit, that's where you can fire your nuclear propulsion, and you've got a concept of propulsion that could work continuously and supply the 1G acceleration?

PC: Yes, you supply the 1G for the whole flight.

SD: And how do you get that?

PC: You have to have an extremely high thrust ratio to keep the weight down, and you get that through nuclear propulsion - not the nuclear propulsion we know of today, but the system the Russians are projecting for 2060.

SD: What is the propulsion medium?

PC: It's almost always hydrogen, because it has the smallest molecular weight, and in some of the highest performance nuclear systems what comes out is atomic hydrogen, because the temperature is so high the hydrogen molecules disassemble themselves.

SD: What would this system look like?

PC: There would be no exhaust stream, only a blue glow. When we tested Rover, and the others, you could not see the hydrogen exhaust. On the other hand, some of the systems they're proposing today have thrust levels that are too low. The ability to generate high thrust levels is a necessity. I don't know if (such spacecraft) are going to look like big truss structures. If the mass ratio comes down, they're going to look very different.

SD: What do we do now?

PC: It's about time NASA said, "We're not going to spend all this money to go back to the Moon," and then in three years walk away from it. A Moon base is an orbital station that requires no orbital maintenance. You can hide under the ground so you don't have to worry about solar flares. It has enough atomic oxygen in the soil that you can make oxygen for a breathable system. You can put up a greenhouse and grow your own food. And it might have water.

The point is we have to find out if we can live on the Moon for a year without dying. If we can't do that, how are we going to live on Mars without dying?

SD: Isn't the trick to get up there and exploit the resources to build the materials that you need not only to stay up there, but to go on from there, without having to rely on the heavy lifting from Earth's surface?

PC: That's exactly right. If you make oxygen on the Moon and liquefy it and let it fall back to Earth orbit, that's cheaper than lifting it up from the surface of the Earth.

SD: So all you need is to get above low Earth orbit. Once you're on the Moon, you can supply the mid-range facilities from the Moon instead of from Earth.

PC: Yes.

SD: But nuclear propulsion must come from Earth. There's nothing on the Moon that can help you with that.

PC: Right. There might be some residual material there, but nothing substantial. In terms of nuclear propulsion, that has to come from here.

SD: It would be a quantum leap in our propulsion technology - a couple of weeks to Neptune and a couple of weeks back would be fantastic.

PC: Yes, it would be fantastic. If you're really going to explore our solar system, you're going to have propulsion systems with high accelerations, and in order to do that you're going to have to use either a fission or a fusion propulsion system.


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New Horizons is now 50 Astronomical Units from Earth and celebrated by taking a photograph of Voyager 1's location.

NASA’s New Horizons Reaches a Rare Space Milestone
Now 50 times as far from the Sun as Earth, History-Making Pluto Explorer Photographs Voyager 1’s Location from the Kuiper Belt


In the weeks following its launch in early 2006, when NASA’s New Horizons was still close to home, it took just minutes to transmit a command to the spacecraft, and hear back that the onboard computer received and was ready to carry out the instructions.

Scale of the Solar System

Here’s one way to imagine just how far 50 AU is: Think of the solar system laid out on a neighborhood street; the Sun is one house to the left of “home” (or Earth), Mars would be the next house to the right, and Jupiter would be just four houses to the right. New Horizons would be 50 houses down the street, 17 houses beyond Pluto!

As New Horizons crossed the solar system, and its distance from Earth jumped from millions to billions of miles, that time between contacts grew from a few minutes to several hours. And on April 17 at 12:42 UTC (or April 17 at 8:42 a.m. EDT), New Horizons will reach a rare deep-space milepost -- 50 astronomical units from the Sun, or 50 times farther from the Sun than Earth is.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-s-new-horizons-reaches-a-rare-space-milestone
 
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