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Heard my own lung crackle with pneumonia a few years ago. Up until then I'd thought yeah got pneumonia, got antibiotics, couple of days off an' I'll be right...

It's easy to neglect pneumonia as it creeps up on the patient and they can struggle on until it's too late. Even after the diagnosis they might not take it seriously.

I may have been going that way, but the sound of that physical symptom brought home to me how ill I was. Off to bed.

Crikey that would be scary. Glad you're ok now! Is the crackle of pneumonia different to the normal chest infection rattle, then? I mean - how did you know? (If you don't mind me asking)
 
Last night was very eventful in Stockholm. We got what was in principle the three minute warning!
. . .
Or was it? How close did we come last night without knowing it?
Is anyone else out there thinking "hackers" or "Russian bots"?
Then again, maybe it was just some teenagers having fun.
A good example of how messing with a government's public announcement systems can be used to frighten and destabilize.
I'm glad you didn't actually get blasted, Ringo!
For all you others—I'm glad you didn't get blasted either!
And I'm glad that Escargo listened to her lungs and is still alive to tell about it!

I would quit now and stop plaguing you with my disheveled thoughts non sequiturs by going to bed and getting some sleep, but it's officially the 4th of July here now and all the idiots are popping off their fireworks even though it's half past midnight.
 
Crikey that would be scary. Glad you're ok now! Is the crackle of pneumonia different to the normal chest infection rattle, then? I mean - how did you know? (If you don't mind me asking)

No, I don't mind at all. I love symptoms and always ask other people about theirs.

Yup, the crackle sounds like someone crushing plastic packaging. It's higher-pitched than your regular rattle and comes from lower down.
When I heard it, the sound seemed to come from behind me rather than inside my chest. Eerie.

We have a stethoscope somewhere but I couldn't find it or I'd've been listening to the crackle all day.

Incidentally I used to work in health care and looked after lots of pneumonia patients so I should have recognised the signs in myself, durr.
 
Incidentally I used to work in health care and looked after lots of pneumonia patients so I should have recognised the signs in myself, durr.
Stands to reason—being experienced in your field you'd be able to diagnose yourself Just like psychiatrists; they're always the first to notice that they themselves are crazy. :actw:
 
Stands to reason—being experienced in your field you'd be able to diagnose yourself Just like psychiatrists; they're always the first to notice that they themselves are crazy. :actw:

I didn't spot it in myself though. I did the classic pneumonia-patient thing of feeling gradually worse each day but still being able to function with an effort.

Had the night sweats, so there was a pile of pyjamas in the bathroom, which I didn't feel inclined to launder because I was sooo tired...

People living alone can die of pneumonia because it makes you feel exhausted rather than ill. Eventually you might go to bed and die in your sleep.

Luckily I had Techy who made me ring the NHS advice line. They told me to straight in to A&E, Techy bundled me into the car and I was seen in minutes.

Soon after that I was stripped to my pants and gowned, and had the drip put in, all in front of Techy.

One of the nurses said 'Er, this is your husband and not the taxi driver, right?'
It was THAT urgent! Everyone with that possible diagnosis is processed the same way. There's a lot of it about.

Around then, a cousin was admitted to the same hospital with pneumonia. He's younger but a heavy smoker and was much more ill than I was.
He was in for about a week on intravenous antibiotics whereas I was kicked out in the early hours with tablets.
 
Is anyone else out there thinking "hackers" or "Russian bots"?...
I'm glad you didn't actually get blasted, Ringo!

I wondered about that too. Some sort of cyber attack. In the preceeding years, there had been a lot of tension between Sweden and Russia, with their jets circling the Swedish island of Gotland, passing between the island and the mainland and even making dummy Nuclear bombing runs over the mainland. Sweden scrambled their jets and escorted them away. There had been suspected sightings of Russian submarines in Swedish waters - both open water and even navigating the smaller channels in the inner archipelago, prompting the largest ever Swedish Naval search outside of wartimes. That's also why it felt so real when it went off.

News from a few days ago: Sweden implement a new Ground-to-Air system in Gotland:
https://www.thelocal.se/20190701/sweden-boosts-gotland-air-missile-defence-quick-solution

From 2016: Russians made dummy Nuclear bombing runs on Sweden
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...uclear-strike-against-Sweden-Nato-admits.html
 
I didn't spot it in myself though. I did the classic pneumonia-patient thing of feeling gradually worse each day but still being able to function with an effort.

Had the night sweats, so there was a pile of pyjamas in the bathroom, which I didn't feel inclined to launder because I was sooo tired...

People living alone can die of pneumonia because it makes you feel exhausted rather than ill. Eventually you might go to bed and die in your sleep.

Luckily I had Techy who made me ring the NHS advice line. They told me to straight in to A&E, Techy bundled me into the car and I was seen in minutes.

Soon after that I was stripped to my pants and gowned, and had the drip put in, all in front of Techy.

One of the nurses said 'Er, this is your husband and not the taxi driver, right?'
It was THAT urgent! Everyone with that possible diagnosis is processed the same way. There's a lot of it about.

Around then, a cousin was admitted to the same hospital with pneumonia. He's younger but a heavy smoker and was much more ill than I was.
He was in for about a week on intravenous antibiotics whereas I was kicked out in the early hours with tablets.
Some years back, the diabetic nurse at my doctor's surgery gave me an injection. She told me it was something that would ensure I didn't get pneumonia. She told me I'd never get pneumonia. As you can imagine, I was sceptical.
 
No, I don't mind at all. I love symptoms and always ask other people about theirs.

Yup, the crackle sounds like someone crushing plastic packaging. It's higher-pitched than your regular rattle and comes from lower down.
When I heard it, the sound seemed to come from behind me rather than inside my chest. Eerie.

We have a stethoscope somewhere but I couldn't find it or I'd've been listening to the crackle all day.

Incidentally I used to work in health care and looked after lots of pneumonia patients so I should have recognised the signs in myself, durr.

Thanks for the explanation :) I've had a lot of rattles in my chest over the years but none like that. Good to know about it though. :nods:

As for my bolded bit... made me chuckle, I can just imagine you asking all and sundry to "tell me more" about their ailments :) I have plenty of symptoms, all the time (they vary though, and I get new ones, so at least it keeps things interesting. Never a dull moment, being a Zebra) :D
 
Thanks for the explanation :) I've had a lot of rattles in my chest over the years but none like that. Good to know about it though. :nods:

As for my bolded bit... made me chuckle, I can just imagine you asking all and sundry to "tell me more" about their ailments :) I have plenty of symptoms, all the time (they vary though, and I get new ones, so at least it keeps things interesting. Never a dull moment, being a Zebra) :D

Did you know... that 'signs' of illness are what the patient notices, whereas 'symptoms' are what the patient discloses to the doctor?

People do like to discuss their health. I've had some highly satisfactory recent chats about the menopause. Men, they don't know they're BORN.
 
Did you know... that 'signs' of illness are what the patient notices, whereas 'symptoms' are what the patient discloses to the doctor?

People do like to discuss their health. I've had some highly satisfactory recent chats about the menopause. Men, they don't know they're BORN.

I'm having a dense moment so although I've read that first sentence it's not quite sinking in... do you mean in regards to how someone describes what's wrong to a doctor, compared to how they think of it at home (if that makes sense?) like they don't always.. tell the full story (too embarrassed for example)?


And erm... back to the scary noises topic... may I nominate the Pink Panther Theme Tune? The loud bit always freaks me out big time. Always has.
Just me?
 
I'm having a dense moment so although I've read that first sentence it's not quite sinking in... do you mean in regards to how someone describes what's wrong to a doctor, compared to how they think of it at home (if that makes sense?) like they don't always.. tell the full story (too embarrassed for example)?


And erm... back to the scary noises topic... may I nominate the Pink Panther Theme Tune? The loud bit always freaks me out big time. Always has.
Just me?
It's not me, it's you...
 
I'm having a dense moment so although I've read that first sentence it's not quite sinking in... do you mean in regards to how someone describes what's wrong to a doctor, compared to how they think of it at home (if that makes sense?) like they don't always.. tell the full story (too embarrassed for example)?


And erm... back to the scary noises topic... may I nominate the Pink Panther Theme Tune? The loud bit always freaks me out big time. Always has.
Just me?

Symptoms are what the patient conveys to the doctor. Signs are what the patient notices. 'Signs' also applies to what the doctor can see for themselves.

The point is that the patient decides whether or not some change in their body indicates illness. Even if they do think it's a 'bad sign' (as the saying goes) they might not tell the doctor.

When they do see a doctor, what they tell the doctor is their account of what's wrong: their symptoms. Until the doctor hears about the symptoms they have no idea what's wrong.

Aha, you might say, but what if the illness is obvious, like a rash on the face?

The answer is that the rash is a sign that the doctor can see. The patient might have found that the previous treatment hasn't worked, or they may be OK with the rash and their current problem might be with another aspect of their health. The patient has to describe the problem for it to be a symptom.
 
I used to be absolutely terrified of an LP my parents had when I was very little. Hated the damn thing. It was something to do with household sounds, or somesuch (I've no idea what the title was) but it had a vacuum cleaner on it and the noise of that was unbelievably terrifying to me. ...

I suspect this is the LP. Such sound effects albums were relatively common decades ago.

No Artist – BBC Sound Effects No. 2
Label: BBC Records – RED 76M
Series: BBC Sound Effects – 2
Format: Vinyl, LP, Mono
Country: UK
Released: 1970 (and multiple times thereafter)

https://www.discogs.com/No-Artist-BBC-Sound-Effects-No-2/release/15231931
 
I suspect this is the LP. Such sound effects albums were relatively common decades ago.

No Artist – BBC Sound Effects No. 2
Label: BBC Records – RED 76M
Series: BBC Sound Effects – 2
Format: Vinyl, LP, Mono
Country: UK
Released: 1970 (and multiple times thereafter)

https://www.discogs.com/No-Artist-BBC-Sound-Effects-No-2/release/15231931

Ah, thank you. (You're a veritable wealth of information and ability to find things!)

I've never attempted to look into it because it terrified me so much, but it's good to know that my memory is 'verified', as it were. I have to say I don't recognise the album cover but I was very young when I heard it so perhaps not surprising. I think that must be the one; the release date is a few years before I was born so it fits.

Now, the question is - if I were to find the recordings online, could I actually listen to it? (I'm suspecting no!)
 
When I was about 6, my sister and I had been left to do the breakfast dishes whilst our mum popped next-door to talk to the neighbour about something. We were in the kitchen, drying up, when there came this low moaning sound. We froze and looked at each other - had no idea what was causing it. As it got louder, we became more and more unnerved up until the point that we put the tea towels down, and ran next-door to find our mum so that she could deal with it.

It turned out to be the water trapped in the neck of the glass milk bottle that was upside-down on the draining board!
 
The storiea of hedgehogs, earlier in this thread, reminded me of something that happened when i was a kid.
I was around 7 or 8 and my dad had an old bell tent from when he was in the scouts, he erected it in the back garden to see if it was still useable and my friend from around the corner and i asked if we could spend the night in it. So at bed time we settled down and, after the usual messing about of young boys, we fell asleep, a few hours later we came running into the house because there was a monster in the back garden, trying to get us in the tent, my folks were understanding and we ended up top and tailing in my bunk bed, in the morning dad explained it was just a hedgehog lol, at the time it was terrifying, it was so loud and close we were petrified.
 
The storiea of hedgehogs, earlier in this thread, reminded me of something that happened when i was a kid.
I was around 7 or 8 and my dad had an old bell tent from when he was in the scouts, he erected it in the back garden to see if it was still useable and my friend from around the corner and i asked if we could spend the night in it. So at bed time we settled down and, after the usual messing about of young boys, we fell asleep, a few hours later we came running into the house because there was a monster in the back garden, trying to get us in the tent, my folks were understanding and we ended up top and tailing in my bunk bed, in the morning dad explained it was just a hedgehog lol, at the time it was terrifying, it was so loud and close we were petrified.
The noises hedgehogs can make do not equate to their size or image in any way or form! Understandable young children would be freaked by them!
 
I think the scariest noise I can think of is when you are expecting a loud thunderous PARRRPP of a satisfying fart and all you actually hear is something far more muffled and “liquidy” ............not to mention being somewhat warmer!
 
The noises hedgehogs can make do not equate to their size or image in any way or form! Understandable young children would be freaked by them!

Many years ago, walking home late at night I heard extremely loud grunting noises coming from a nearby garden, stopped and looked, expecting a badger - such was the volume, turned out to be two hedgehogs circling one another. Looked like it might be a prelude to mating, I hate to think what noises they'd make when actually on the job.
 
I think the scariest noise I can think of is when you are expecting a loud thunderous PARRRPP of a satisfying fart and all you actually hear is something far more muffled and “liquidy” ............not to mention being somewhat warmer!

*nods* You gambled... and lost.
 
Many years ago, walking home late at night I heard extremely loud grunting noises coming from a nearby garden, stopped and looked, expecting a badger - such was the volume, turned out to be two hedgehogs circling one another. Looked like it might be a prelude to mating, I hate to think what noises they'd make when actually on the job.
Hedgehog mating sounds with romantic music and David Attenborough commentary

 
Many years ago, walking home late at night I heard extremely loud grunting noises coming from a nearby garden, stopped and looked, expecting a badger - such was the volume, turned out to be two hedgehogs circling one another. Looked like it might be a prelude to mating, I hate to think what noises they'd make when actually on the job.
Meh! You should hear the noises I make whilst on the job!
 
Meh! You should hear the noises I make whilst on the job!
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