Tunn11
Justified & Ancient
- Joined
- Nov 23, 2005
- Messages
- 2,233
- Location
- Under the highest tree top in Kent
What about my air miles travelling to the Republic of Ireland to re cycle my wrappers?
What about my air miles travelling to the Republic of Ireland to re cycle my wrappers?
Only partly. Most UK waste sorting facilities will use magnets to draw out the ferrous content, and systems to wash out the biodegradable matter (foodstuffs), and some have more advanced systems that can remove thin plastics and paper with an air-blow system, but mostly it just gets piled up and driven over with big tractors with spiked wheels to compact it.Does it get sorted somewhere
Yes correct - we are not relying on wind power.So we’re agreed that the UK is not relying on wind power. Wind provides part of our electricity generation, not most. If it results in less use of fossil fuels I can’t see anything in that to complain about.
We won’t be getting rid of the present power generating stations any time soon.
Re coal, I heard the other day that the steel plant in Wales, I think it was Port Talbot, which burns coal as it achieves higher temperatures, produces 2% of the UKs total CO2 emissions on its own.
We’re not short of landfill sites by the looks of it.."can be recycled at more than 5,000 supermarkets across the UK"
What that means is that people in the UK will just bung them in the 'general waste' bin at home, along with most everything else, except for the bottles, plastics and cans that go in the clattering 'recycling' bin.
Only partly. Most UK waste sorting facilities will use magnets to draw out the ferrous content, and systems to wash out the biodegradable matter (foodstuffs), and some have more advanced systems that can remove thin plastics and paper with an air-blow system, but mostly it just gets piled up and driven over with big tractors with spiked wheels to compact it.
(a typical UK landfill site, followed by a disappointing map of current UK landfill sites)
View attachment 62764
View attachment 62765
We’re not short of landfill sites by the looks of it..
Further reading:I suggest that if everyone has an electromagnet fitted to their cars which only works when driving West to East (or the other way about I'm not sure which way the core is meant to rotate) it will help the core to start rotating the correct way again.
The magnets should only cost £9 -£10,000 to fit and cars without them should pay double tax.
It sounds expensive but it is saving the planet.
Do you keep eating the big ones then? Because the change is new on the two finger ones.It's been donkeys years since I have seen a Kitkat wrapped in foil and paper. Why the fuss now?
I'm also close to the border. It is also a great way to get people who don't live in London to pay money into London's coffers. I think some boroughs have refused to fit the cameras that will be used to find transgressors as it's likely to impact local economies.Going back to talking about the people who can least afford things paying more. This is what is so wrong about the extended ultra low emission zone that’s going to cover Greater London.
If you have an old car and can’t afford a new one you’ll have to pay £12.50. I live right by the border and I worked in a London borough during covid. If it was now and my car was only slightly older I’d have to pay £12.50 just to go to work.
There’s a Facebook group up in arms about it and they’ve put up articles that says outer London’s air is generally ok, it’s inner London that is the problem. Like where they’ve had the charge for ages. So is it for the environment or to screw money out of people who can’t afford it?
It's not just car output that will be impacted.They seem hell bent on forcing the less well off off the roads but winge and wail
when car output falls, the price of motoring as now passed or getting to the
tipping point of what it's worth, the age of the motor car has passed and they
are a distressed buy to many,
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-25/car-production-sinks-to-lowest-level-since-1950s
It's not just car output that will be impacted.
Business in London will grind to a halt and there will be bankruptcies.
It's a stupid scheme that achieves nothing for the environment, but rakes in money and makes everybody miserable.More on extension of ULEZ zone in Greater London here: A lot of concerns from some of the areas affected based on timescales and effects on the less well off. Some authorities mounting a legal challenge and refusing enforcement cameras where they are able.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64373344
Outer London doesn’t have the same public transport infrastructure that central London does. The Elizabeth Line doesn’t even make it as far as us (even though it goes out to Reading the other side but don’t get me started).It's a stupid scheme that achieves nothing for the environment, but rakes in money and makes everybody miserable.
Londoners need to resist it more strongly.
Very few tube lines go 'south of the river' generally, because over the decades when the majority of the tube network was first built it was discovered that the composition of the ground changes as you head south-east, becoming much more sandy/gravelly and unstable, which prevented the prevailing tunnel-building techniques of the time from being adequate for construction of same.Outer London doesn’t have the same public transport infrastructure that central London does.
They seem hell bent on forcing the less well off off the roads but winge and wail
when car output falls, the price of motoring as now passed or getting to the
tipping point of what it's worth, the age of the motor car has passed and they
are a distressed buy to many,
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-25/car-production-sinks-to-lowest-level-since-1950s
Because they don't really want us to stop using our cars just as they don't really want us to stop drinking alcohol/fizzy drinks/smoking/eating fast, processed-food/flying around the world.... It all makes Billions for them. Stop it and the taxes would just have to come from somewhere else instead.If you don't want people to use cars then you need better public transport. I used to drive the twenty odd miles to work and twenty odd back each day and often had to pay for parking as well. The public transport option was: walk four miles to the station, take a train to central London, take a train back to outer London, walk about a mile to work - Reverse all this to come home - and it would cost more!
I think it’s ironic that trams were scrapped and then decades later they thought actually they were pretty good.Very few tube lines go 'south of the river' generally, because over the decades when the majority of the tube network was first built it was discovered that the composition of the ground changes as you head south-east, becoming much more sandy/gravelly and unstable, which prevented the prevailing tunnel-building techniques of the time from being adequate for construction of same.
A lot of urban-sprawl development came later, and then it was found that people were oddly resistant to having their properties compulsorily purchased and knocked down to make way for new train lines etc.
Which is why places like Croydon ended up with modern tram services, years after perfectly serviceable tram lines and trolleybus routes were ripped up.
Gosh! Cold weather in Scotland in December, who'd a thought it. Pity there wasn't an amber warning. Never mind if they keep powering them with fossil fuel Scotland will warm up enough for them to work on wind power.Dozens of giant turbines at Scots windfarms powered by diesel generators
The firm said it was forced to act in order to keep the turbines warm during very cold weather in December. But a whistleblower has [said that] the incident is among a number of environmental and health and safety failings.
maximus otter
Dozens of giant turbines at Scots windfarms powered by diesel generators
Dozens of giant turbines on Scotland’s windfarms have been powered by diesel generators, the Sunday Mail can reveal. Scottish Power admitted 71 of its windmills were hooked up to the fossil fuel supply after a fault developed on the grid.
The firm said it was forced to act in order to keep the turbines warm during very cold weather in December. But a whistleblower has [said that] the incident is among a number of environmental and health and safety failings.
Sixty turbines at Arecleoch Wind farm and 11 at Glenn App near Cairnrayn in South Ayrshire were affacted and connected to six huge diesel generators.
But the whistleblower revealed how they had to bring in generators after the issue was discovered.
The worker said: “During December 60 turbines at Arecleoch and 11 at Glenn App were de-energised due to a cabling fault originating at Mark Hill wind farm. In order to get these turbines re-energised diesel generators were running for upwards of six hours a day.”
[He added]: “Turbines are regularly offline due to faults where they are taking energy from the grid rather than producing it, and also left operating on half power for long periods due to parts which haven’t been replaced.
"Dirty hydraulic oil is also regularly being sprayed out across the Scottish countryside due to cracks in mechanisms. Safety standards have not improved since a worker was killed in 2017 at Kilgallioch wind farm.”
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/...n=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
maximus otter