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Not As Environmentally Friendly As Promised

'Awake' is the term used for those who don't buy the Covid-19 narrative. There is again (that word spectrum) a range from those who think the crisis was mishandled to those who think the whole thing was deliberately caused by people who want the planet depopulated.
Thanks mate - I'm a bit indifferent to whys and wherefores when it comes to Corvid 19 (yeah, I know). Maybe it was a marketing bonanza for whoever created the vaccine?
 

21 killed as coach veers off bridge and bursts into flames

At least 21 people died and more than a dozen others were injured on Tuesday night when a coach smashed through the guard rail of an overpass near Venice and plunged 50ft to the ground, bursting into flames.

The mayor of Venice described the scene of the crash as “apocalyptic”.

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Mauro Luongo, the fire brigade commander of Venice, said the impact of the crash caused the vehicle’s electric batteries to catch fire: “Among the difficulties was the fact that the bus was electric so it had batteries. Unfortunately, they caught fire on impact,” Mr Luongo said.

One witness, named Leonardo, said: “Then there was the noise of the crash, the impact. I was shocked and looking down I saw smoke and heard people screaming for help. I wanted to help but I was stopped by a friend of mine and a policewoman because the bus was still on fire and there was the risk of an explosion. The rescuers arrived after about 20 minutes.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/03/venice-bus-crash-italy-mestre-railway-dead/

maximus otter
 
There used to be a trope in old films where vehicles would instantly go up in flames after a crash.
Then, after car companies made cars a lot safer, there was a period when you didn't see much of this in films.
If electric vehicles do take over, we'll be back to the old trope again. Except that the explosions will be even bigger.
 
Our cars kept mysteriously getting sabotaged costing us thousands - we were stunned to find the culprit

Car owners on a quiet street are wrapping their motors in netting — to stop foxes eating them.

The pests have caused tens of thousands’ damage — and endangered lives — by nibbling ABS braking systems.

Dr Dieter Riddall, 75, has spent over £2,300 repairing his Porsche SUV after foxes struck twice in Little Birches in Sidcup.

“Almost everyone in the street has been affected. One kid’s had his car done five times.”

Jack Cousens, the AA’s head of roads policy, said the foxes may be attracted by the smell of the soy-based insulation on the wires.

The environmentally-friendly substance replaced its petroleum-based predecessor in 2000.


He said: “Once they start to nibble they like the taste and they will keep coming back for more.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/24345455/fox-cars-mysteriously-sabotage-costing-thousands/

maximus otter
 
I wonder how likely it was that the massive car park fire at Luton airport was started by an electric car? It might not, but…
 
A report says it started in one car on the top floor but nothing else,
expensive fire that's for sure.
 
If you park your "normal" car next to an EV will it invalidate your insurance?

Sharp intake of breath "Well if you will park your car within fifty feet of an EV what do you expect? I mean we won't cover you if you leave it unlocked and it gets nicked so why should we cover you if you choose to park it next to a potential fireball?"
 
If you park your "normal" car next to an EV will it invalidate your insurance?

Sharp intake of breath "Well if you will park your car within fifty feet of an EV what do you expect? I mean we won't cover you if you leave it unlocked and it gets nicked so why should we cover you if you choose to park it next to a potential fireball?"

This shouldn't be a problem as many insurers won't cover electric cars, even if you can afford the ruinous premiums.

maximus otter
 
At least 90% of drivers wouldn't have a clue what they parked next to and
there's no way of knowing what will be next to you when you get back.
This EV thing is getting to be a bit of a mine field.
 
I wonder how likely it was that the massive car park fire at Luton airport was started by an electric car? It might not, but…

According to this it was a diesel car

The blaze which gutted a car park at Luton Airport's Terminal 2 was caused by a diesel powered vehicle, it has been confirmed.

Andrew Hopkinson, chief fire officer for Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service, said: "We have no intelligence at this stage to suggest that this was anything other than an accidental fire that started in one of the vehicles that had not long arrived at the airport.

"It was not an EV. This was a diesel powered vehicle."
 
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Interesting thing I found in local planning records. Obviously didn’t become a big thing.

Use Of Land For Erection Of Garage For Electric Delivery Vans 1948/1949
 
Unusual, diesel is supposed to be less combustible than petrol.
That’s true but it’s possible it could’ve been an electrical short circuit which started it. Once a car is on fire It will just go up whether diesel, petrol, or electric. Plenty of other combustible parts other than fuel, & diesel does burn, it’s just less combustible than petrol.

How they’ve managed to identify the culprit amongst all the burnt out cars isn’t divulged..
 
Diesels typically don't go up in flames like that, unless there was some other accelerant on board that set it off.
 
That’s true but it’s possible it could’ve been an electrical short circuit which started it. Once a car is on fire It will just go up whether diesel, petrol, or electric. Plenty of other combustible parts other than fuel, & diesel does burn, it’s just less combustible than petrol.

How they’ve managed to identify the culprit amongst all the burnt out cars isn’t divulged..
There was a bit of footage filmed of the start of the fire, which is how they identified it as a diesel.
 
An electrical fault and a fuel leak at the same time plus an explosion is a bit of a coincidence.
 
An electrical fault and a fuel leak at the same time plus an explosion is a bit of a coincidence.
What do you suspect - terrorism of some kind?

Electrical fault hasn’t been confirmed - just my speculation as a possible cause. I don’t think you’d necessarily need a fuel leak either. If the fire gets hot enough the fuel tank will go up.
 
There’s a lot of people not believing it was diesel. Video here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67082443

People believe all sorts of things about all sorts of stuff. What’s the suspicion about this - that it was actually an EV & has been covered up so as not to put people off buying them?

Andrew Hopkinson, chief fire officer for Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service, said: "We have no intelligence at this stage to suggest that this was anything other than an accidental fire that started in one of the vehicles that had not long arrived at the airport.

"It was not an EV. This was a diesel powered vehicle.”

He would’ve had to knowingly lie in this statement. It’s possible..

The BBC link doesn’t add anything. It’s the same as the one I linked to above.
 
People believe all sorts of things about all sorts of stuff. What’s the suspicion about this - that it was actually an EV & has been covered up so as not to put people off buying them?



He would’ve had to knowingly lie in this statement. It’s possible..

The BBC link doesn’t add anything. It’s the same as the one I linked to above.
I think it’s because diesels don’t usual burn so easily and the vapour isn’t as flammable. Surely if it was a cover up they’d blame a petrol car as it would be more believable. Although diesels are seen as the devils work these days.
 
I think it’s because diesels don’t usual burn so easily and the vapour isn’t as flammable. Surely if it was a cover up they’d blame a petrol car as it would be more believable. Although diesels are seen as the devils work these days.
It doesn’t tell us what the lots of people who don’t believe it was a diesel do think.

If it was a petrol car would there still be suspicion?

Most likely they suspect it was an EV & is being covered up.
 
It doesn’t tell us what the lots of people who don’t believe it was a diesel do think.

If it was a petrol car would there still be suspicion?

Most likely they suspect it was an EV & is being covered up.
People are thinking EV (they do burn the most spectacularly) or hybrid. But I don’t think you get hybrid diesels do you?

Personally I think hybrid sounds the most appealing as a replacement to ICE. But then you’ve have got twice as many things to go wrong.
 
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