Coastaljames
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Very good link, thank you. I know a little about this guy. Not an idiot or internet wacko.
Fontanka also telephoned several people who live in the apartment building where Boshirov is registered, discovering that the only resident at his supposed address is an elderly woman. Neighbors say they’ve never seen any man enter the apartment, but some suggested that she might have a son who never visits.
Fontanka was able to find out even less about Petrov. A man with his name and birthdate is registered as a staff member at the federal state unitary enterprise “MicroGen,” Russia’s biggest producer of immunological products. MicroGen operates nine branches nationwide, working mostly with vaccines, and reports to Russia's Health Ministry.
The thing with the passport numbers is more what you would expect with GRU people surely. It's just everything else they messed up with.
This is all merely a distraction. Orchestrated by whom and for what purpose, though, that’s the question!
Re passport numbers, according to this site their passport numbers differed only in the last digit - 1297 & 1294, so not quite consecutive but very close, based on a report from Russian news site Fontanka. These numbers have been reported in the UK press as well.
Maybe I’m naïve – but it seems to me that there’s no more art to believing nothing you are told simply because it is what you are told than there is to swallowing everything hook line and sinker without a moment’s consideration.
They're just a bit overstocked with Novichok and trying to find a way to get rid of it.
How can the times be exact "to the second" on two people walking past the same cctv camera ?
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Skripal case: Russian 'spies' targeted Swiss chemical weapons lab
Two Russian men were arrested earlier this year on suspicion of spying on a Swiss laboratory investigating the poisoning of Sergei Skripal, a newspaper investigation has claimed.
Swiss publication Tages Anzeiger and Dutch paper NRC said they were arrested in the Netherlands earlier this year.
The Swiss lab analysed samples from the poisoning of the former Russian double agent in the UK.
It has also dealt with suspected chemical weapons from the war in Syria.
The two men were expelled from The Netherlands shortly after their arrest, which had not been reported until now.
A spokeswoman for Swiss intelligence told the BBC that the agency had been actively involved in "the case of the Russian spies", without mentioning the laboratory at Spiez, near Bern.
But Tages Anzeiger said the Swiss intelligence agency had confirmed the findings of its joint investigation with NRC.
The report says the two men had equipment that could have been used to break into the laboratory's computer systems, and also alleged that they worked for Russian intelligence. ...
NRC said the two alleged spies targeting the Swiss lab were not the same men accused of the poisoning.
It is not clear exactly when the arrests were made. But British intelligence are said to have been involved in the intelligence operation, suggesting it occurred after the Salisbury poisonings. ...
Isabelle Graber, head of communications at the Swiss Federal Intelligence Service (FIS) said the agency had "participated actively in this operation together with its Dutch and British partners". ...
The intended target of the alleged espionage is a designated lab for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).
In addition to research on dangerous infections, it deals with biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons research.
In that capacity, it has examined samples from the Syrian conflict, where the Damascus government - Russia's ally - has been accused of using chemical weapons against civilians. ...
Why can this not simply be what it says on the tin?
Because Sergei Skripal would be dead.
And we wouldn't be having this discussion. Because we wouldn't know anything about it.
Because Sergei Skripal would be dead.
And we wouldn't be having this discussion. Because we wouldn't know anything about it.
I think that's a very begged question. Personally, I think the absolute infallibility of Russian intelligence services - in fact, any nation's intelligence services - is probably more a product of popular culture than of the real world. I'd say the same goes for major organised crime - and, in fact, any institutionalised system of enforcement. (I would add that the fact that many of these organisations so often seem to be in direct competion with other elements within their own system does not help matters).
Potentially professional, ruthless, devious and lethal - yes. Absolutely infallible - best left to the movies.
Well Moscow didn't quite manage to kill Ukrainian politician Viktor Andriyovych Yushchenko either.
I think this stuff is not sprayed, so much as dispensed. It's probably got an oily, soapy or gelatinous consistency, so it stays put. So I'm guessing that not much of it gets into the atmosphere.And for me, the biggie- spraying a hyper-deadly substance on a door handle where a gust of wind could have blown it onto you. And killed you.
I think this stuff is not sprayed, so much as dispensed. It's probably got an oily, soapy or gelatinous consistency, so it stays put. So I'm guessing that not much of it gets into the atmosphere.
Do you think his use of the word was accurate?The unfortunate lady that died "sprayed the perfume on both of her wrists" according to her boyrfriend who was present.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44947162
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...uised-in-perfume-bottle-on-both-a3890051.html
"It had an oily substance and I smelled it and it didn't smell of perfume. It felt oily. I washed it off and I didn't think anything of it. It all happened so quick."
Do you think his use of the word was accurate?
He also said:
However...there cannot be a more convoluted, obvious and traceable attempt to kill someone than this.
By 'spray', I mean 'atomise'. I wouldn't have thought that the Novichok dispenser would atomise the Novichok into a cloud of fine droplets. That would be lethal to everyone in the vicinity.Either way...it's sprayable.
By 'spray', I mean 'atomise'. I wouldn't have thought that the Novichok dispenser would atomise the Novichok into a cloud of fine droplets. That would be lethal to everyone in the vicinity.
It seems obvious now that somebody wanted to make it clear that the Russian state was behind it.The best one sitting 2'000 miles away after you've paid someone to do it for you,
It seems obvious now that somebody wanted to make it clear that the Russian state was behind it.
Do you have more info on this?