maximus otter
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Hmmm, the increase in radiation made your hair fall out.
Not all of it. My ears, nose and back are as hirsute as any maiden could desire.
maximus otter
Hmmm, the increase in radiation made your hair fall out.
Not all of it. My ears, nose and back are as hirsute as any maiden could desire.
maximus otter
The radiation levels you're panicking about have only recently become measurable by humanity because we've built such sensitive instruments.
So, again a handful industrial criminals have done it now, including the states of France, Japan and General Electric (industrial USA). they HAD seen this coming, they WERE aware the reactors were far from safe, the cheapest, oldest design Mark-1 type, before GE exported them in 1976. also, of course, France knew this in 1999 when they exported a bunch of mox-fuel to Dai Ichi. ... 'they missed the point', says Claudia Stauber in the Fukushima-episode of 'cabin talk', I posted earlier, 'they behave exactly like addicts!'
That's it, pretty much.If your argument is that the Nucelar industry runs on thanatos, I would agree. The Dai-Ichi plants should never have been ratified for use in Japan, especially not in a coastal area. Japan is, for starters, too disaster prone, vis earthquakes, cyclones, tsunamis, volcanoes etc for nuclear power to be a safe option. The people who bear the prime responsibility imo are Japan's high court, who ratified the building of the plants and performed no due dilligence in the choice of sites, abiding unquestioningly to the information provided by Dai-Ichi. The Japanese High Court were told that a natural disaster event capable of disabling the plant was impossible, yet Japan in 1920 had experienced a "perfect storm" of natural disasters before in Tokyo Bay that should have given anyone pause. Then there was the issue that the plants had not been upgraded since the 1960s when they were built. You would think that Japan of all nations would lead the world in disaster robotics, and that drones like bomb disposal robots would be activated to fix the damage. No, it was warm bodies in bad NBC suits. Some people are addicts, they're addicted to money, and they will do anything and say anything to get it.
That's it, pretty much.
If properly managed and engineered, nuclear power can be a very safe, green means of power production. That there have been a few problems does not mean nuclear power is generally unsafe, it just means that accidents can happen if people are stupid.
We should remember this man with grateful thanks:The first nuclear power station accident in Western Europe happened here in the UK (Windscale). The man who personally went into the reactor to cap it off only died recently, of old age.
List of accidents and deaths here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents
OK, it doesn't list deaths that were indirectly caused by the accidents, but it's not really possible to establish those.
Terence Price, future scientific advisor at the Ministry of Defence in the 1960s, pointed out "the word folly did not seem appropriate after the accident"
Yep. That.We know people do stupid things. So design so that even stupid acts cannot cause an accident. And that includes commercial imperatives and decisions made, shall we say, 'at above engineering level'.
Do statements to the effect that all life on earth will cease in ten years not meet this standard?We know people do stupid things. So design so that even stupid acts cannot cause an accident. And that includes commercial imperatives and decisions made, shall we say, 'at above engineering level'.
We should remember this man with grateful thanks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cockcroft
His rational stubborn insistence saved many lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cockcroft#Cockcroft's_Folly
I think we have far more to fear in the event of a mass extinction of insects. That would kill us all in 2 years.Do statements to the effect that all life on earth will cease in ten years not meet this standard?
If properly managed and engineered, nuclear power can be a very safe, green means of power production.
I was exposed to radiation when I was a kid (had a watch, a compass and an alarm clock with radioactive paint). I'm still alive.
...only to cause a rotten accident, because the breaks on the car were rotting, I can be presumed 'liable' if I KNEW (was consciously aware) the breaks were bad, right?! ..
But wouldn't your transport laws require a yearly mechanical examination. The failure of which would have prevented the legal use of your crappy car ?
So if you were driving the car in defiance of local law then the responsibility for any accident caused by mechanical failure would be yours; would it not ?
INT21
whatever, I completely don't adore cars or legality in general. some people out here are even now still trying to mention 'the benefits' of splitting an atom! I think the element FIRE is good to help you boil water to help cure an infection, or to cook a meal, but massive bushfires burning down the state of california are considered not so good! before, again, I enter into any moral, ethical or religious discussion with you, let me remind you: next week is Valentine's day! let's all send Japan some flowers!
While agreeing with pretty much everything else you have written here, I must take issue with this point Mythopoeika. Let us entirely rule out the possibility of nuclear accidents and how it provides fissionable material for weapons for a moment, and just consider the green credentials of the nucelar industry for a moment in terms of the technology alone. I can't be fairer than that.
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Looked at that video and wondered who 'Frederick Niche' was.