It's definitely some form of mental illness, although I'm not sure what.I simply cannot accept that objectophilia is a genuine condition on any level other than demonstrative projection and obtuse self-centricity.
I've said this before, and perhaps the only thing that would truly change my mind would be some form of polygraphic monitoring system results, proving that the supplicant is genuinely aroused / motivated by their purported focus of desire.
This disturbing video does nothing to shake my boring reductionist postulation (nb I was almost as shocked by the presence of one of the wedding guests as I was by the ceremony and participant(s) themselves.....watch and you'll see what I mean.....I'd recommend you have something to hide behind, whilst you're watching this video)
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The real mystery is how this play-acting can be sustained by the sufferer's friends & family....and the world. We have friends & family to tell us we're fools, especially in our younger years: this is somewhere between delusion & pantomime.
But this action is inarguably unhealthy, if it's being earnestly-undertaken (sorry - I'm infinitely broad-minded: but I cannot accept any sentient society where we calmly and sincerely tell our elementary school children that it's ok as a life-option for anyone to love / marry / copulate with a plastic toy &/or a hologram as a lifetime commitment)
Also as i mentioned earlier in the thread, an object cannot say 'i do' at any 'wedding' so how are these 'weddings' official. (If they even are, idk)And surely, since the object of desire cannot give informed consent to the relationship, it's some kind of form of coercive control? Maybe linked to a desire to enforce one's will on a partner but being unable to do so with humans so sort of moving that desire sideways?
After all, a bridge/car/chandelier can hardly say 'no' or 'sorry, I just don't fancy you', can it?
I doubt very much if these 'weddings' would hold up legally. As you say, there's no second party consent, no signature, no birthdate (how could we even prove that the chandelier wasn't bigamously married?). I think these 'marriages' are very much a publicity exercise - although I suppose we'd never know about all those 'other' 'marriages' that didn't hit the headlines.Also as i mentioned earlier in the thread, an object cannot say 'i do' at any 'wedding' so how are these 'weddings' official. (If they even are, idk)
And surely, since the object of desire cannot give informed consent to the relationship, it's some kind of form of coercive control? Maybe linked to a desire to enforce one's will on a partner but being unable to do so with humans so sort of moving that desire sideways?
After all, a bridge/car/chandelier can hardly say 'no' or 'sorry, I just don't fancy you', can it?
That's certainly an intriguing way to look at it!And surely, since the object of desire cannot give informed consent to the relationship, it's some kind of form of coercive control? Maybe linked to a desire to enforce one's will on a partner but being unable to do so with humans so sort of moving that desire sideways?
After all, a bridge/car/chandelier can hardly say 'no' or 'sorry, I just don't fancy you', can it?
Was objectophilia a 'thing' before the days of social media or has it all happened since then? We've had stories here about airplanes, chandeliers, both of which existed before, probably some others I've forgotten, so it should be possible. Or is it just a way of making your presence in the world apparent for a while which was impossible before social media? A kind of exhibitionism.
It's definitely some form of mental illness, although I'm not sure what.
Must cause some social problems for these people, even in Japan.
I can kind of see the appeal if you really don't want anyone answering back.I agree, I don't know if it needs it's own classification or if it is a similar phenomenon to "stalkers", though without a victim.
One imagines the planes, chandeliers, lamps and Eiffel Tower aren't especially bothered by it any way.
Interesting, thank you!There hasn't been much research into objectophilia, but the studies done to date suggest it's not demonstrably correlated with childhood trauma or sexual abuse.
It does seem to correlate with social isolation, social awkwardness and / or shyness.
This survey study yielded notable correlations linking self-identified OS folks with autism and synaesthesia:
Simner, J., Hughes, J.E.A. & Sagiv, N.
Objectum sexuality: A sexual orientation linked with autism and synaesthesia.
Sci Rep 9, 19874 (2019).
https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-019-56449-0
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-56449-0
Another characteristic claimed to correlate with OS is a belief or openness to animism or animistic attributions (i.e., the notion that inanimate objects are imbued with spirits, personalities, genders, emotions, etc.).
Aren't we all encouraged to form a connection to objects from our earliest ages? Teddy bears, cuddly toys, etc? Maybe some people never grow out of that "safe" relationship, which is essentially with yourself.
Definitely! Whenever we wail for attention, the teddy bear (etc.) is immediately placed into our arms as a surrogate comfort. When I undertook clearance of the family home as executor of my late brother's estate I was asked how I was going to prioritize the massive task. I wasn't joking when I said my #1 priority was locating and securing my teddy bear, even though I hadn't seen it in circa 40 years.
We take pride in all sorts of inanimate objects that represent achievement, affluence, status or utility (e.g., vehicles). I've known skilled builders and craftsmen who bemoaned the loss of a cherished tool.
Our materialistic / consumerist social milieu fosters personalization of - and affinities with - our possessions, so I don't find it all that incredible that some folks might project such feelings onto objects that aren't their personal property. After all, advertisers have been promoting the association between joy and possessions throughout our lives.
I recently misplaced my favourite hammer and i am genuinely distraughtDefinitely! Whenever we wail for attention, the teddy bear (etc.) is immediately placed into our arms as a surrogate comfort. When I undertook clearance of the family home as executor of my late brother's estate I was asked how I was going to prioritize the massive task. I wasn't joking when I said my #1 priority was locating and securing my teddy bear, even though I hadn't seen it in circa 40 years.
We take pride in all sorts of inanimate objects that represent achievement, affluence, status or utility (e.g., vehicles). I've known skilled builders and craftsmen who bemoaned the loss of a cherished tool.
Our materialistic / consumerist social milieu fosters personalization of - and affinities with - our possessions, so I don't find it all that incredible that some folks might project such feelings onto objects that aren't their personal property. After all, advertisers have been promoting the association between joy and possessions throughout our lives.
I talk to my orchids :hungo:I'm sceptical about these marriages to chandeliers and so on. I suspect they are simply manifestations of our era's most common mental health issue: Attention Seeking Disorder.
However, if we forget for a moment the "sex" with the object and the silliness of the "marriage" to it, how many of us have never acted as if we have some sort of relationship with an inanimate object?
Have you never patted your old and "faithful" car on the bonnet and muttered "Well done, old girl" after a long journey? Does your car have a name? Have you ever implored a recalcitrant motorbike to start? Every sailor calls their boat "she" and has a definite feeling that the boat itself is part of the crew. And if you count all this as "sentimentality," then fair enough, but when you stub your toe on a brick, do you swear at yourself, or at the brick?
If, like @Souleater , I had lost a favourite hammer, I would ask "where the bloody thing was hiding," rather than "where I'd bloody put it." (I hope you find it, by the way.)
There are few if any of us who have never acted towards an inanimate object as if it could hear us speak.
I talk to my orchids :hungo:
Yeah I suppose they're living/breathing things in comparison to a building or blow up doll or something like that.At least plants are alive, and there's the idea that talking to them is good because of the carbon dioxide generated, though I doubt it's any more than is generated by breathing normally.
Update on Tolochko - the famed poster boy for sexual objectophilia ...Bodybuilder Yuri Tolochko ...
FULL STORY: https://nypost.com/2021/05/31/bodybuilder-who-married-sex-dolls-now-open-to-dating-humans/Bodybuilder who wed two sex dolls is now open to dating humans
A Kazakhstani bodybuilder who wed his sex doll after a whirlwind romance is open to dating a human on one condition: They like his silicone soulmates as well. He dropped the bombshell on the UK-based “The Dating Show” on FUBAR Radio Friday, the Daily Star reported.
“I was in a real relationship in the past, about seven years,” said Yuri Tolochko, who infamously married his sex doll Margo in November after dating her for eight months. A self-professed “pansexual,” Tolochko can reportedly love anything from an “image” to a “soul.”
Nonetheless, “it’s interesting and important for me, and in the future maybe I will have a real person, but it’s important that she or he likes my dolls too,” the muscleman said. ...
Good luck with thatUpdate on Tolochko - the famed poster boy for sexual objectophilia ...
He's recently indicated a willingness to enter a relationship with an actual flesh-and-blood human woman - provided she can accept his dolls.
FULL STORY: https://nypost.com/2021/05/31/bodybuilder-who-married-sex-dolls-now-open-to-dating-humans/
In fairness I often think a relationship with, say...a plank would be MUCH easier than a relationship with another human.
I just don't want to shag a plank.
Planks like humans, you just have to watch out for the pricks.
Yeah, it would go against the grain.In fairness I often think a relationship with, say...a plank would be MUCH easier than a relationship with another human.
I just don't want to shag a plank.