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Paranormal: The Girl, The Ghost And The Gravestone (Penyffordd Farm)

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A new documentary about the Penyffordd Farm hauntings:

A child's gravestone in the garden, a monk-like figure supposedly appearing over a sleeping baby and words carved on walls... all reported at a house once known as the UK's most haunted.

About 300 apparent paranormal phenomena was documented at a remote 17th Century house that had national media coverage because of supposed spooky goings-on.

The multiple claims of the unexplained was a tale that interested Hollywood.

It came after a family started to speak about their Penyffordd Farm nightmare.

Reports of muffled voices in empty rooms, figures appearing, hearing children singing and carvings and stains appearing on walls were brought to national attention by mum-of-four Rose-Mary Gower who said she was desperate for answers.

Penyffordd Farm


Penyffordd Farm - which translates as end of the road in Welsh - was situated in a remote area of north Wales
There were also claims of a huge wooden owl moving across the house on its own, and a pregnant girl appearing on the patio of their farmhouse in north Wales and then vanishing.

Rose-Mary documented what she believed to be unexplained experiences, and was so spooked that she got a psychologist into her home in Treuddyn, Flintshire, to do a study - and he found no rational explanation.

What's the BBC documentary Paranormal about?​

Now those reports of supernatural stories have been investigated in a new BBC documentary fronted by Radio 1 presenter Sian Eleri, who heard from those who say multiple spirits were doing stuff at Penyffordd Farm that no-one could explain.

"One day I was moving some dried flowers that had started to look a bit manky so I decided the throw them away," Rose-Mary wrote after she started documenting the goings-on in the late 1990s.

"I took them from the lounge to the kitchen and put them on the counter, dropping petals all the while.

Rose-Mary Gower



Rose-Mary Gower home-schooled her son John-Paul at Penyffordd Farm where she also lived with her headmaster husband David
"Somebody came to the door and I was about 30 seconds, and when I came back every single petal had disappeared. They had been replaced by dead or dying half-drowned wasps.

"There was no sign of a wasps nest and all of the doors and windows were shut. Inexplicable."

The Paranormal documentary hears the spooky claims started when the Gower family say they found a Welsh word written on an inside wall of their empty home, after they had returned from a New Year's Eve party at their daughter's house.

The family said it read "tangnefedd" which is Welsh for peace, in a religious context.


Sian Eleri investigates 300 paranormal events at Penyffordd Farm.

The Gowers claim this started a flurry of Welsh words appearing, like "hir am aros", which means long-suffering - and "erlidiau", which means persecutions.

Rose-Mary documented that the words appearing on the walls were uncommon Welsh words - and they, as a family from England, didn't speak or understand Welsh.

Why was there a gravestone at Penyffordd Farm?​

The family feel the catalyst for the supposed paranormal events was moving a gravestone of a 15-year-old girl that had been propped up at the front of their home.


Jane Jones' headstone had been on the front path since the Gower family moved in during 1997, but they moved it to a more discreet place for a garden reception after eldest daughter Nicolette's wedding.

The documentary found Jane was born to Morgan and Mary Jones in 1763, before she died in 1778 and was buried in a field.
"We looked into it and she was actually our relative," said local resident Maurice, who once lived at Penyffordd Farm, who told the documentary about why the gravestone was in the garden.

"She died in childbirth and they wouldn't allow her to be buried in consecrated ground because of the disgrace of having a baby at 14. It is plausible Jane is on that land."

Nicolette told the Paranormal documentary that after the gravestone was moved "all kind of strange stuff kicked off".

What did witnesses experience at Penyffordd Farm?​

"One night I awoke and saw a figure standing over the cot in the corner where my child is," she said.
"It was leaning over looking into the cot where Quinn was sleeping. I couldn't see its face - it had a hood, like a habit a monk would wear.
"I sat bolt upright and it had just gone. It creeped the life out of me."


Nicolette, her husband and son Quinn lived at Penyffordd Farm for a while when Rose-Mary relocated to Eastbourne in 2002 for David's job.
"It was a constant daily thing of weirdness, like words appearing on the wall when you'd be sat watching a programme," occupational therapist Nicolette said.
"Quinn's name appeared on the wall and I really didn't like that. How can you sit in a room and words appear on a wall?

The wooden owl and carvings of a cross on the fireplace

The wooden owl that Ewan described ended up in the fireplace below a carving of a cross

"There were brief moments of children singing and being in the bed and hearing the latch lift, a pause and the latch would go down again.
"I could feel this tension. There were figures in the corner of your eye. It was creepy."

Nicolette's husband Ewan also recalled two occasions the Gower family's enormous wooden owl had moved on its own.
Adrienne, the Gowers' younger daughter, also claimed to have seen the monk during a stay at Penyffordd Farm, and Rose-Mary documented her waking up in the middle of the night screaming.

"I was asleep and woke up and felt this presence of something standing over me - and I say it was a monk," she told Paranormal.


Sian Eleri was told a well-established pilgrimage route between Shrewsbury and Holywell runs past Penyffordd Farm
The family understand many do not believe their supernatural story, but Rose-Mary and her daughters are adamant this was not an attention-seeking hoax.

Was Penyffordd Farm's paranormal story a hoax?​

"I think some people thought we were doing it to make money out of it. Well, I assure you we weren't," Rose-Mary told the documentary.
"John-Paul has Down's syndrome and learning difficulties and I had to look after him so I was quite busy, to put it mildly. We thought somebody was playing silly beggers."

Daughter Nicolette added: "It couldn't have been my siblings because when things happened they weren't at the house.
"My parents couldn't have had anything to do with it - they were in Eastbourne hundreds of miles away.
Her sister Adrianne admits she's "not one to say I believe in ghosts", but she said: "I know what I experienced."
"We never got to the bottom of it," she told the documentary.

Paper clipping


The documentary saw newspaper cuttings from 1997 where an Irish couple claimed to have seen a vision of the Virgin Mary near the farm.
"Even talking about it now, I think 'do I want to talk about it? Do I look a bit mad?' But it's what happened to me."

The Gower family moved out of Penyffordd Farm in 2012. Current owner Michael told the documentary he does not believe that his home is haunted.

"The chances of the paranormal being something real is just zero," he said

"This wall was flooded with damp, and if you have a damp wall you have stains. If you're creative, you could look at it and say 'my gosh it's a picture of a person's head'."
It would seem that with the Gower family's departure from the farm, their paranormal experiences seemingly left with them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66443613
 
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A new documentary about the Penyffordd Farm hauntings:

A child's gravestone in the garden, a monk-like figure supposedly appearing over a sleeping baby and words carved on walls... all reported at a house once known as the UK's most haunted.

About 300 apparent paranormal phenomena was documented at a remote 17th Century house that had national media coverage because of supposed spooky goings-on.

The multiple claims of the unexplained was a tale that interested Hollywood.

It came after a family started to speak about their Penyffordd Farm nightmare.

Reports of muffled voices in empty rooms, figures appearing, hearing children singing and carvings and stains appearing on walls were brought to national attention by mum-of-four Rose-Mary Gower who said she was desperate for answers.

Penyffordd Farm

Image caption,
Penyffordd Farm - which translates as end of the road in Welsh - was situated in a remote area of north Wales
There were also claims of a huge wooden owl moving across the house on its own, and a pregnant girl appearing on the patio of their farmhouse in north Wales and then vanishing.

Rose-Mary documented what she believed to be unexplained experiences, and was so spooked that she got a psychologist into her home in Treuddyn, Flintshire, to do a study - and he found no rational explanation.

What's the BBC documentary Paranormal about?​

Now those reports of supernatural stories have been investigated in a new BBC documentary fronted by Radio 1 presenter Sian Eleri, who heard from those who say multiple spirits were doing stuff at Penyffordd Farm that no-one could explain.

"One day I was moving some dried flowers that had started to look a bit manky so I decided the throw them away," Rose-Mary wrote after she started documenting the goings-on in the late 1990s.

"I took them from the lounge to the kitchen and put them on the counter, dropping petals all the while.

Rose-Mary Gower



Rose-Mary Gower home-schooled her son John-Paul at Penyffordd Farm where she also lived with her headmaster husband David
"Somebody came to the door and I was about 30 seconds, and when I came back every single petal had disappeared. They had been replaced by dead or dying half-drowned wasps.

"There was no sign of a wasps nest and all of the doors and windows were shut. Inexplicable."

The Paranormal documentary hears the spooky claims started when the Gower family say they found a Welsh word written on an inside wall of their empty home, after they had returned from a New Year's Eve party at their daughter's house.

The family said it read "tangnefedd" which is Welsh for peace, in a religious context.


Sian Eleri investigates 300 paranormal events at Penyffordd Farm.

The Gowers claim this started a flurry of Welsh words appearing, like "hir am aros", which means long-suffering - and "erlidiau", which means persecutions.

Rose-Mary documented that the words appearing on the walls were uncommon Welsh words - and they, as a family from England, didn't speak or understand Welsh.

Why was there a gravestone at Penyffordd Farm?​

The family feel the catalyst for the supposed paranormal events was moving a gravestone of a 15-year-old girl that had been propped up at the front of their home.


Jane Jones' headstone had been on the front path since the Gower family moved in during 1997, but they moved it to a more discreet place for a garden reception after eldest daughter Nicolette's wedding.

The documentary found Jane was born to Morgan and Mary Jones in 1763, before she died in 1778 and was buried in a field.
"We looked into it and she was actually our relative," said local resident Maurice, who once lived at Penyffordd Farm, who told the documentary about why the gravestone was in the garden.

"She died in childbirth and they wouldn't allow her to be buried in consecrated ground because of the disgrace of having a baby at 14. It is plausible Jane is on that land."

Nicolette told the Paranormal documentary that after the gravestone was moved "all kind of strange stuff kicked off".

What did witnesses experience at Penyffordd Farm?​

"One night I awoke and saw a figure standing over the cot in the corner where my child is," she said.
"It was leaning over looking into the cot where Quinn was sleeping. I couldn't see its face - it had a hood, like a habit a monk would wear.
"I sat bolt upright and it had just gone. It creeped the life out of me."


Nicolette, her husband and son Quinn lived at Penyffordd Farm for a while when Rose-Mary relocated to Eastbourne in 2002 for David's job.
"It was a constant daily thing of weirdness, like words appearing on the wall when you'd be sat watching a programme," occupational therapist Nicolette said.
"Quinn's name appeared on the wall and I really didn't like that. How can you sit in a room and words appear on a wall?

The wooden owl and carvings of a cross on the fireplace

Image caption,
The wooden owl that Ewan described ended up in the fireplace below a carving of a cross

"There were brief moments of children singing and being in the bed and hearing the latch lift, a pause and the latch would go down again.
"I could feel this tension. There were figures in the corner of your eye. It was creepy."

Nicolette's husband Ewan also recalled two occasions the Gower family's enormous wooden owl had moved on its own.
Adrienne, the Gowers' younger daughter, also claimed to have seen the monk during a stay at Penyffordd Farm, and Rose-Mary documented her waking up in the middle of the night screaming.

"I was asleep and woke up and felt this presence of something standing over me - and I say it was a monk," she told Paranormal.


Sian Eleri was told a well-established pilgrimage route between Shrewsbury and Holywell runs past Penyffordd Farm
The family understand many do not believe their supernatural story, but Rose-Mary and her daughters are adamant this was not an attention-seeking hoax.

Was Penyffordd Farm's paranormal story a hoax?​

"I think some people thought we were doing it to make money out of it. Well, I assure you we weren't," Rose-Mary told the documentary.
"John-Paul has Down's syndrome and learning difficulties and I had to look after him so I was quite busy, to put it mildly. We thought somebody was playing silly beggers."

Daughter Nicolette added: "It couldn't have been my siblings because when things happened they weren't at the house.
"My parents couldn't have had anything to do with it - they were in Eastbourne hundreds of miles away.
Her sister Adrianne admits she's "not one to say I believe in ghosts", but she said: "I know what I experienced."
"We never got to the bottom of it," she told the documentary.

Paper clipping

Image caption,

The documentary saw newspaper cuttings from 1997 where an Irish couple claimed to have seen a vision of the Virgin Mary near the farm.
"Even talking about it now, I think 'do I want to talk about it? Do I look a bit mad?' But it's what happened to me."

The Gower family moved out of Penyffordd Farm in 2012. Current owner Michael told the documentary he does not believe that his home is haunted.

"The chances of the paranormal being something real is just zero," he said

"This wall was flooded with damp, and if you have a damp wall you have stains. If you're creative, you could look at it and say 'my gosh it's a picture of a person's head'."
It would seem that with the Gower family's departure from the farm, their paranormal experiences seemingly left with them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66443613
When I saw it was being fronted by a Radio 1 DJ I feared the worst, expecting minor celebrity froth and attempts to link everything to TikTok and the culture wars with a hiphop soundtrack etc (grumble, grumble). How wrong I was, I watched the first episode last night night and thought it was superb. Sian is a native of the area and so has respect for the people and the place, and also a Welsh speaker which certainly helps as the inscriptions that had papered were written in Welsh. It is up there with Danny's 'Uncanny' and docudramas about the Battersea poltergeist and the Witch Farm and right now the BBC are spoiling us with all this quality paranormal content.
 
When I saw it was being fronted by a Radio 1 DJ I feared the worst, expecting minor celebrity froth and attempts to link everything to TikTok and the culture wars with a hiphop soundtrack etc (grumble, grumble). How wrong I was, I watched the first episode last night night and thought it was superb. Sian is a native of the area and so has respect for the people and the place, and also a Welsh speaker which certainly helps as the inscriptions that had papered were written in Welsh. It is up there with Danny's 'Uncanny' and docudramas about the Battersea poltergeist and the Witch Farm and right now the BBC are spoiling us with all this quality paranormal content.
Totally agree with all you said. I was a bit wary about watching it when it was mentioned that a Radio 1 presenter was fronting it. But it was a superb documentary. I will wait to watch the next two episodes "live" next week as I don't want it to be over too soon. Hopefully if it is a ratings hit it might encourage the BBC to commission more paranormal programs. We already have Uncanny coming up later this year which I am really looking forward to.

I can't believe I had not heard about this location before. It didn't ring any bells with me. Was it featured on the national news at the time?
 
I just watched two. They're pretty moreish and I don't even normally like paranormal tv.
Agreed. I watched the first 2 the other day. But still had a few more days before I went back to work and had been to the pub - so I'll have to watch them again, as don't remember much. I do remember that I enjoyed them though.
 
Totally agree with all you said. I was a bit wary about watching it when it was mentioned that a Radio 1 presenter was fronting it. But it was a superb documentary. I will wait to watch the next two episodes "live" next week as I don't want it to be over too soon. Hopefully if it is a ratings hit it might encourage the BBC to commission more paranormal programs. We already have Uncanny coming up later this year which I am really looking forward to.

I can't believe I had not heard about this location before. It didn't ring any bells with me. Was it featured on the national news at the time?
I do think BBC and old ITV do good Parnormal shows be it documentry and Drama.
 
I do think BBC and old ITV do good Parnormal shows be it documentry and Drama.
What cases spring to mind that could potentially interest a documentary maker to invest the time and effort into making a good documentary?

A lot of older cases have been “done to death”, I’m thinking here of cases such as Borley Rectory, and recently The Battersea Poltergeist?
But there must be enough data out there on other cases, or other subjects, that could warrant a good documentary.
 
What cases spring to mind that could potentially interest a documentary maker to invest the time and effort into making a good documentary?

A lot of older cases have been “done to death”, I’m thinking here of cases such as Borley Rectory, and recently The Battersea Poltergeist?
But there must be enough data out there on other cases, or other subjects, that could warrant a good documentary.
Maybe need another Strange But True.
 
Maybe need another Strange But True.
Hopefully Danny's 'Uncanny' BBC 2 programme out in the Autumn will tick this box

Incidentally, what wa that two=parter paranormal documentary a few years ago (maybe a decade?) that was on ITV and featured amongst others Jon Downes and Graham Inglis of the CFZ...?
 
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In the early 1970s, BBC radio hosted Jack de Manio who investigated some paranormal incidents. Unfortunately the BBC retained a few interviews but just about everything else is gone.
That's sad. I rather liked him.
 
I'm really enjoying the Paranormal BBC iPlayer series about Penyfford Farm and have just finished episode 3.
As a non-Welsh speaker though, I wonder why the interviews in Welsh with Sian Eleri go along the lines of "Welsh, welsh, welsh dressing gown. Welsh welsh welsh oh my God! Welsh, welsh, welsh creepy. Welsh, welsh, unanswered questions" etc.
Is it normal practice for Welsh speakers to use English every few words?
 
I'm really enjoying the Paranormal BBC iPlayer series about Penyfford Farm and have just finished episode 3.
As a non-Welsh speaker though, I wonder why the interviews in Welsh with Sian Eleri go along the lines of "Welsh, welsh, welsh dressing gown. Welsh welsh welsh oh my God! Welsh, welsh, welsh creepy. Welsh, welsh, unanswered questions" etc.
Is it normal practice for Welsh speakers to use English every few words?
Yup, I often hear customers talking Welsh and notice how they use English terms. My Welsh relations did this.
 
I'm really enjoying the Paranormal BBC iPlayer series about Penyfford Farm and have just finished episode 3.
As a non-Welsh speaker though, I wonder why the interviews in Welsh with Sian Eleri go along the lines of "Welsh, welsh, welsh dressing gown. Welsh welsh welsh oh my God! Welsh, welsh, welsh creepy. Welsh, welsh, unanswered questions" etc.
Is it normal practice for Welsh speakers to use English every few words?

l remember years ago using an official interpreter to interview an Asian bloke. She’d come out with sentences like, “Blah, blah, telephone kiosk, blah, blah, receptionist, blah…” I recall feeling a little bit cheated, as if l should have asked for 10% discount!

In conversation afterwards l asked her about it, and her perfectly sensible reply was that there were [language] words for the relevant things, but that most people used & understood the English loan words, just like most French people use “le week-end”, and “un parking” for a car park.

maximus otter
 
l remember years ago using an official interpreter to interview an Asian bloke. She’d come out with sentences like, “Blah, blah, telephone kiosk, blah, blah, receptionist, blah…” I recall feeling a little bit cheated, as if l should have asked for 10% discount!

In conversation afterwards l asked her about it, and her perfectly sensible reply was that there were [language] words for the relevant things, but that most people used & understood the English loan words, just like most French people use “le week-end”, and “un parking” for a car park.

maximus otter

And we buy croissants now instead of the "crescent rolls" we had when I were a lad.
 
Is it normal practice for Welsh speakers to use English every few words?

l remember years ago using an official interpreter to interview an Asian bloke. She’d come out with sentences like, “Blah, blah, telephone kiosk, blah, blah, receptionist, blah…”

Years ago when I had an engineering job one of the company owners was Swedish, and similar to other observations, conversations he was holding were interspersed with technical references in English.

“Hurry Gurdy Micromanometer, Hurdy Gurdy Pitot Tube, Hurdy Gurdy Anamometer”

It sounded like the Swedish Chef from the Muppets had a career change.
 
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