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People Who Just Disappear (Go Missing)

escargot said:
That's what makes it look like an abduction. If someone were determined enough to get into a tent and identify which sleeping bag had a child in, carrying the kid off in the sleeping bag would be easier than, say, enticing her away in the daytime.

However, weren't adults also present? You'd think they'd wake up even if the child didn't.
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It was a Friday/Saturday night at a campsite in Oz. (She was last seen at 0130hrs. on Saturday.) Drink may have been taken.

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maximus otter said:
It was a Friday/Saturday night at a campsite in Oz. (She was last seen at 0130hrs. on Saturday.) Drink may have been taken.

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I suppose it depends on whether it was a tent with 'rooms', so the little girl was accessible from outside the tent without disturbing anyone, or whether it was just a generic tent where everyone sleeps in the same space - from which abduction would be almost impossible.
 
Dingo.



But seriously, the mum and partner look very sussed to me. Body language expert says they are underplaying their obvious distress. Many felt Lindy Chamberlain was too cool for school. Joanne Lees, similarly. I know I'd be a wet mess, media or no media. Worst feeling imaginable. Poor little kid.
 
catseye said:
I suppose it depends on whether it was a tent with 'rooms', so the little girl was accessible from outside the tent without disturbing anyone, or whether it was just a generic tent where everyone sleeps in the same space - from which abduction would be almost impossible.
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Yup, we need to know what of style tent it was.

The sleeping bag going missing too reminded me of the murder of Sophie Hook in Llandudno, North Wales, in July 1995. He killer is believed to have removed her from a tent while still asleep in her sleeping bag.

(She and other children had been 'camping out' in a tent in a back garden. My kids and their friends and cousins used to do that in my garden, but the area was not overlooked and there were a high wall and stout gate between the garden and street. I wouldn't have permitted it otherwise.

Not saying Sophie's family did anything wrong - they didn't harm her, the murderer did - but I'm that bit more suspicious.)
 
escargot said:
This is worrying: a girl of 4 has gone missing from a campsite in Australia.

(Safe Guardian link)
Disappearance of Cleo Smith, four, from family’s tent in Western Australia ‘extremely concerning’



This strikes a chord with me. As parents know, young children love to get away from adults and go exploring. When my kids were small I felt like a mother hen, constantly checking how many were present.

When I occasionally couldn't account for one, the first feeling of dread was like a lead weight: I could hardly breathe for fear.

Then I'd spot the little monkey crouched behind the sofa stuffing stolen biscuits or up a tree shouting 'Mum! Mum! Look how high I can climb!'
One sneaked off in the Co-Op Superstore and was found by staff covered in yogurt and surrounded by empty cartons. I refused to cover the loss because the staff hadn't stopped him.

Anyway... toddlers can escape from tents and caravans while adults are asleep or busy socialising right next to them.
A child might be put to bed at a normal time, then wake up and go for a wander. They're usually found quite quickly.

A couple of years ago in Cheshire a little boy of only 16 months did this and sadly drowned in a nearby lake.
(Safe Liverpool Echo link)

Baby boy drowned in lake at caravan park after parents woke up to find him missing



If someone who saw Corey wandering had apprehended him (as I CERTAINLY would have) he'd have been safe.
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I thought of this again today. Out cycling on a rural road we spotted a little boy of maybe just over 4 out wandering.

We turned round and I shooed him back to his house, where I stood shouting 'Hello! Hello! I'm at the door!' until Mum appeared.

I explained that we'd seen her son out on his own. She was grateful that we'd taken the time to go back and said that as she was waiting for a furniture delivery she hadn't locked the front door and didn't think Junior would go out in his PJs and socks.

She said she'd tell him off and I said 'Don't do that, it's not his fault. It's natural for little kids to go exploring.'

What I meant was 'Keep the door locked, you silly cow!' :wink2:

Anyway, when I said I'd've stopped little Corey from coming to harm I meant it.
 
escargot said:
I thought of this again today. Out cycling on a rural road we spotted a little boy of maybe just over 4 out wandering.

We turned round and I shooed him back to his house, where I stood shouting 'Hello! Hello! I'm at the door!' until Mum appeared.

I explained that we'd seen her son out on his own. She was grateful that we'd taken the time to go back and said that as she was waiting for a furniture delivery she hadn't locked the front door and didn't think Junior would go out in his PJs and socks.

She said she'd tell him off and I said 'Don't do that, it's not his fault. It's natural for little kids to go exploring.'

What I meant was 'Keep the door locked, you silly cow!' :wink2:

Anyway, when I said I'd've stopped little Corey from coming to harm I meant it.
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Well done, you! :twothumbs:
 
escargot said:
I thought of this again today. Out cycling on a rural road we spotted a little boy of maybe just over 4 out wandering.

We turned round and I shooed him back to his house, where I stood shouting 'Hello! Hello! I'm at the door!' until Mum appeared.

I explained that we'd seen her son out on his own. She was grateful that we'd taken the time to go back and said that as she was waiting for a furniture delivery she hadn't locked the front door and didn't think Junior would go out in his PJs and socks.

She said she'd tell him off and I said 'Don't do that, it's not his fault. It's natural for little kids to go exploring.'

What I meant was 'Keep the door locked, you silly cow!' :wink2:

Anyway, when I said I'd've stopped little Corey from coming to harm I meant it.
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How the kid will relate the tale in years to come:

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Sarm Heslop still missing - boat now up for sale

Friends of a British woman who vanished from a yacht off the US Virgin Islands have again urged police to search the boat after finding it is up for sale.

Sarm Heslop was reported missing by her boyfriend Ryan Bane from his catamaran moored off St John on 8 March.

"It is understood Ryan Bane listed Siren Song for sale for $229,000, (£167,800) having removed its name," her friends in the UK have said.
A full forensic search of the catamaran has never been carried out.

Mr Bane, the last person to have seen her, has declined detectives' request for an interview, according to VIPD.
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I’m amazed that he can decline to be interviewed as the last person in contact with her & she was living on his boat. Virgin Islands Police don’t seem to be that bothered..
 
escargot said:
I thought of this again today. Out cycling on a rural road we spotted a little boy of maybe just over 4 out wandering.

We turned round and I shooed him back to his house, where I stood shouting 'Hello! Hello! I'm at the door!' until Mum appeared.

I explained that we'd seen her son out on his own. She was grateful that we'd taken the time to go back and said that as she was waiting for a furniture delivery she hadn't locked the front door and didn't think Junior would go out in his PJs and socks.

She said she'd tell him off and I said 'Don't do that, it's not his fault. It's natural for little kids to go exploring.'

What I meant was 'Keep the door locked, you silly cow!' :wink2:

Anyway, when I said I'd've stopped little Corey from coming to harm I meant it.
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ramonmercado said:
How the kid will relate the tale in years to come:

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escargot said:
I was done up like this with a hi-viz jacket and overkecks. Can't see him wanting to go out again for a LONG time! :evillaugh:

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Hope your house doesn't look like this!

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Wow, that's a great outcome and she looks well all things considered, certainly not how this type of scenario usually turns out. Her parents must be beyond relieved. Hopefully she hasn't had to endure any serious trauma whilst being held by him (being taken from your family is pretty traumatic in itself!)
 
Kondoru said:
Yes, I for one was expecting the worst.
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I think everyone, including the police were.
From what I saw on the news this evening, it appeared that when found, Cleo was in good health and had been well fed for during her time away from her family.
There were now specialist police teams on their way to the town of Carnarvon to begin the long process of finding out exactly what happened to her and why.
 
Lord Lucan said:
I think everyone, including the police were.
From what I saw on the news this evening, it appeared that when found, Cleo was in good health and had been well fed for during her time away from her family.
There were now specialist police teams on their way to the town of Carnarvon to begin the long process of finding out exactly what happened to her and why.
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The three scenarios that spring to my mind - some more likely than others - are a custody disagreement, a ransom hoax and a stranger/acquaintance abduction that was thought better of.
 
The BBC report from above says
"Authorities say the man in custody has no connection to the Smith family. No charges have been laid."
and
"ABC News reported a man who lived at the house had been recently spotted by a neighbour buying nappies.
"We didn't click who… he was buying them for," the neighbour was quoted as saying."

They also said the house was 6 minutes drive from where the parents lived - even though she was taken from a campsite in a different area. So it's most bizarre if the man had no connection to the family. It's a bit of a coincidence. And why no charges? Or maybe it's just that he's still being questioned.
 
Little_grey_lady said:
The BBC report from above says
"Authorities say the man in custody has no connection to the Smith family. No charges have been laid."
and
"ABC News reported a man who lived at the house had been recently spotted by a neighbour buying nappies.
"We didn't click who… he was buying them for," the neighbour was quoted as saying."

They also said the house was 6 minutes drive from where the parents lived - even though she was taken from a campsite in a different area. So it's most bizarre if the man had no connection to the family. It's a bit of a coincidence. And why no charges? Or maybe it's just that he's still being questioned.
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I saw that article about the nappies, and thought, hang on, the girl is 4, what does he need nappies for?
 
Nosmo King said:
I saw that article about the nappies, and thought, hang on, the girl is 4, what does he need nappies for?
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If she’s been locked away in a room then maybe the abductor wanted to keep her in the room and not let her use the toilet or, he has no clue about children and thought a four year old uses nappies.
 
Chinese tennis star Peng Shuai has not been seen since she made sexual assault allegations against a top Chinese government official two weeks ago.
An email released by Chinese state media attributed to her and claiming the allegations are false, is widely believed to be state disinformation/propaganda and fears for Peng Shuai are growing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-59325399
 
hunck said:
Sarm Heslop still missing - boat now up for sale

Friends of a British woman who vanished from a yacht off the US Virgin Islands have again urged police to search the boat after finding it is up for sale.


I’m amazed that he can decline to be interviewed as the last person in contact with her & she was living on his boat. Virgin Islands Police don’t seem to be that bothered..
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Any updates on this?
 
Stillill said:
If she’s been locked away in a room then maybe the abductor wanted to keep her in the room and not let her use the toilet or, he has no clue about children and thought a four year old uses nappies.
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I wonder if the poor chap maybe had...mental difficulties and got fixated on this girl who he thought of as a 'baby' (he'd probably known her since she was born, at least by sight). And whether he followed and took her to 'look after her' without any intention of doing ill. It would still be kidnapping but he may not have the comprehension to stand trial?

Just my wonderings....
 
hunck said:
Not to my knowledge. If my partner had disappeared I’d be on to the police full time to try & find her. He doesn’t seem bothered & neither do the police..
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Yes, it's very strange alright.
 
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