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Phoenicians In Australia

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Doing some research I came across this while looking for gold sites for prospecting.http://www.awarenessquest.com/osborn.htm and phoenicia.org/australia .Certainly when you look at a mineralisation map of the mackay/Sarina area it wood be an obvious target for a seagoing people.Just as Gympies extreme outcropping of gold was accessable from the sea till 1200 or so years ago.
 
I don't fully understand why: caves in New Zealand containing the tall, red-haired remains of a people pre-dating the Maori are still being bulldozed out of existence ... a small, walled-harbour on the Australian coast (attributed to Phoenicians) was likewise bulldozed out of existence very promptly after being discovered ... mummified remains and artifacts (Egyptian in appearance) reportedly discovered in the walls of the Grand Canyon were later denied by the Smithsonian. The list of 'non-conforming' discoveries being 'disappeared', destroyed and denied by the 'experts' is long.

Those who deliberately withhold and destroy evidence are vandals and criminals, regardless of what qualifications or authority they possess. ...
 
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... a small, walled-harbour on the Australian coast (attributed to Phoenicians) was likewise bulldozed out of existence very promptly after being discovered ...

More information please! :?
 
Lost lots of info when my hardrive died and don't have a lot of time right now, but these urls should provide a starting point re: Phoenicians in Australia. Many of Rex Gilmore's books provide further detail concerning artifacts (Phoenician and Spanish) discovered in Hunter Valley NSW and elsewhere. Some of this is confirmed officially, although most seems to be suppressed/denied. Generally, Aussie govt. stridently attributes ALL artifacts to the indigenous people. For example, several years ago, as the result of severe flood and wind erosion in South Oz, a very ancient burial ground was exposed to reveal several mummified corpses. These were surrounded by ground dyes and ochres, flowers, jewellery, tokens etc. At the time of discovery even the experts announced the skull shapes to be unusual and similar to Egyptians, in common with the burial rites. There is no record of the indigenous people burying their dead in such a fashion. Nearby were the remains of ancient dwellings; stone built foundations. Once again, there is no record of the indigenous people ever constructing permanent dwellings, particularly not of cut stone. And these stone-foundations far preceded white settlement. I used to have a book which detailed (with photos) the similarities between the human remains and those of ancient Egyptians (long slender skull, high at the top-back). Loaned the book to someone -- never got it back. The skull shapes were as different from those of the indigenous people as it's possible to get. However, within a very short space of time, the human and other remains were attributed by the media to indigenous people ... as usual. Same thing is going on wholesale in New Zealand. Exhibits featuring the remains of a tall, red-haired people were on display for many years, before mysteriously disappearing. The authorities then either denied their existence (bit stupid, seeing they were featured in old books and brochures) or said they'd been removed for a variety of spurious reasons. There's quite a struggle going on in New Zealand concerning this and the total media ban whenever archaeological discoveries are made which don't conform with the party line that ALL artifacts must be attributed to the Maori, despite the fact the Maoris freely admit NZ was occupied before they arrived. The explanation for the authorities' stance is supposed to be that by attributing everything to the indigenous people, it allows the govt. to make land grants which may then be bought/leased from the Maori by complicit multinational ore and other vandals. There's a guy over in New Zealand (will try to find his name) who's devoted years to trying to gain official recognition for the caucasions who pre-dated (and were exterminated by) the Maori. The tall, red-haired people constructed hundreds of stone cairns all over New Zealand apparently (dozens of photos on the web somewhere) which reveal their very advanced knowledge of geometry. The stone cairns were used to very accurately measure such things as height above sea-level etc. When discovered and publicised, they are apparently immediately ploughed into the ground by heavy machinery. It's an injustice to the indigenous people, those who preceded them and current and future generations to destroy and deny archaeological evidence. But it's occurring so often, in so many places, that it leaves most people in a state of disbelief, confusion and impotence. The average person has only limited time and energy to devote to these issues. The bad guys have unlimited resources and a whore-media to spread the disinfo. Very sad

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/lnl/stories/s154244.htm

http://phoenicia.org/australia.html#Summary

http://www.awarenessquest.com/research.htm

http://www.treasureenterprises.com/Additional Pages/archaeology_in_australia.htm

http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/mysterious_australia_book_ch17.html



http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/mysterious_australia_book_ch18.html

Current Research (as at 30th June 2003)
Research to date has been limited to surface visuals by private researchers with a refusal of academia to participate on political grounds. Officially, the sites do not exist. Current controversy relative to Aboriginal land claims has the Government somewhat paranoid about a possible land claim by outsiders, relative to the overwhelming evidence being uncovered of such colonies in the BC era. Academia is strictly limited in its research to Aboriginal cultures.

First brought to public awareness in 2000 by local researchers, the sites and evidence triggered off media hysteria with the facts distorted into fictions. Other sites, of course, relate and Sarina is not the epicentre but only part of the huge complex now being uncovered. The researchers fight guerilla warfare against established dogmas and political censorship with no funding and laws that prohibit private excavation, removal of artifacts and investigation of wrecks, etc.

Sarina has a population of some 10,000, is a coastal village in a rainforest climate with a recent geology of a highly complex hydrothermal metamorphosis. The coastal range bisects deserts from rich, yet narrow, strips with a vulnerable flat coast bisected by headlands and a continental shelf extending some 160 kilometres to the Great Barrier Reef. The rich sediments overlie some of the world's most ancient igneous rocks and 200 years ago, the coastal strip was solid jungle, cleared and burnt by farming practices, sugar cane and cattle raising industries prevail. Environmental mismanagement has created irreversible problems to an exquisite biota relative to the fossil hydrothermals now exposed above water.

These incredibly rich hydrothermal crusts were the attraction for colonists and sea traders beginning around 2200 BC out of the Mediterranean. The zenith of coastal mining appeared to relate to the Solomon era of 950 BC when Phoenician vessels came to the fabled land of Ophir out of the Red Sea port at Ezion-Geber on three-year voyages across oceans returning exotics to the exploding Mediterranean cultures.

Harbours
The Freshwater Point site is one of many around Australia's coastlines and it is almost an exact copy of Tyre of Phoenician legend. The east harbour jetty is a typical Phoenician loading platform of granite stone set in furnace-slag cement, some 400 metres in length by 30 metres width by 5 metres high, running back to a freshwater spring and reservoir -- one of two on the isthmus relative to adjacent to open cut mines accessing gold, copper, metacinnabar, epidote, arfedsonite, etc with associated slag heaps and artifacts with the usual Bel altars on the skyline.

In conjunction with this east harbour Sarina inlet contains walls, a cemetery, a Tanit shrine, a boatyard with launching ramp, a giant ten-acre fish traps and the usual petroglyphs.

Sarina township is built on one of the many raised tel platforms and shows clear evidence of surface and underground mining of chromite ore, copper, etc with furnace slag heaps and mining chips, ancient roads, artifacts now overbuilt by modern real estate and canefields.

Sarina's harbours dictate a Phoenician engineering and are associated with other harbours in the giant Broadsound archipelago where the engineers gave top priority to their precious ships prior to establishing operations. Aerial photographs clearly show eroded harbours and walls, reservoirs, etc relative to nearby surface and alluvial mining with quarry chip roads a very pertinent feature.

http://phoenicia.org/australia.html#Summary

http://sitelevel.whatuseek.com/query.go?crid=272e527f5b8b6295&query=phoenicians+in+australia
 
"Ancient" is a relative term in Australia, given that the aboriginals have been there for around 70,000 years. That entire page is filled with nonsense.
 
Tall is relative of course.

But why shouldnt there be light skinned people in Australia?

The natives have been there a long time, -some parts are tropical but the more southerly ones are not very different to Europe.

They would have a) environment reasons and b) time to evolve light skins, woouldnt they?
 
Tall is relative of course.

But why shouldnt there be light skinned people in Australia?

The natives have been there a long time, -some parts are tropical but the more southerly ones are not very different to Europe.

They would have a) environment reasons and b) time to evolve light skins, woouldnt they?
This evolution would involve a regionally selective disadvantage that killed off a higher proportion of individuals with genes for darker skin (possibly only because they were linked to a gene that was selected out) before they reached puberty. I don't think 70K years would do it, but there are rules of thumb for this kind of change and I don't know them. In humans, darker skin , hair, and eyes are the default. But a mutation is always possible, it would persist if it was not lethal and was accepted socially. I'm vaguely familiar with literature on the Phoenicians and although there is general enthusiasm about their mercantile and sailing abilities (they sailed for money), less enthusiasm for their ritual practices, no indication that they looked like anything other than the olive-skinned dark-haired current inhabitants of the area, there is zilch from peer-reviewed sources about them reaching any further than Europe.
 
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