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Pompeii & Herculaneum: Destruction / Archaeology / Findings

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http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/04/01/1017206183365.html

The article is too long to quote, but in summary it concerns a Roman villa in Herculaneum, partially excavated, which turned out to house the only intact library to have survived from the ancient world. Around 1800 papyri were recovered, including many classical works hitherto believed lost.

Now, sadly, the excavation is little more than a flooded hole in the ground. But the thing is... there's still something down there. Professor Marcello Gigante, leader of the team which deciphered the papyri already retrieved, was convinced that there was another, lower level of the library still to be uncovered. However the project ran out of money and Professor Gigante died before he could raise the funds for another effort, and now half of the priceless library is still trapped underground, endangered by flooding and potentially by further volcanic activity. A group of classicists from several major universities are campaigning to get the site reopened and the excavation completed, but it's not certain that they will be in time to save the lost documents.


I was fascinated, and saddened, by this story. To think that those books, probably including many works currently believed lost without trace, are languishing in a mudhole because noone can afford to recover them is awful. Not to mention that the villa itself is apparently a magnificent structure that would probably be a very good candidate for preservation and restoration work. What do people think about this kind of situation? It seems tragic to me that the treasures of the ages can be abandoned to dereliction just because nobody will pay to save them - does anyone else agree?
 
Sad, indeed... I made me wonder what was lost from 1737 to 1752, when they found out that the large black lumps were actually books... This is a world treasure, since its the earliest complete classical library, and has already given forth definitve texts from the birth of western civilisation. It should be treated as such.

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What lies beneath in Pompeii?

Going deep yields new perspective on ancient Roman city

By Daniel Williams
Updated: 5:27 a.m. ET July 28, 2004

POMPEII, Italy - For Pompeii's 2 million yearly visitors, the overwhelming attraction is the captivating view of daily life in the Roman Empire evoked by the city's temples, taverns, houses and public baths, and by its ever-popular brothels with their erotic frescoes.


This summer, visitors might be forgiven for failing to notice a series of newly dug trenches at the southwest exit to the city. The site looks like an example of below-street plumbing in mid-repair, yet it provides a tiny glimpse of a fact obscured by Pompeii's better-known association with the imperial era: A non-Roman civilization thrived here for three centuries, with its own temples, houses, taverns, baths and saucy sexual practices.

Last month, a team of archaeologists from Italy's Basilicata University uncovered the remains of a structure built by the Samnites, a mountain warrior people who conquered, inhabited, built up and ruled Pompeii before Roman chariots wheeled into town.

Surprise find
The diggers were looking for something else -- remains of Pompeii's harbor. Instead, they found a pre-Roman temple wall, clay offerings to the Samnite goddess of love, and a basin and terracotta pipes indicating the site of a ritual bath.

The Basilicata researchers were digging below Pompeii's surface because the focus of excavations had changed. For the past 250 years, most excavation has concentrated on the Roman city that was suspended in ash and stone by the eruption of Vesuvius in A.D. 79.

Until the 1990s, local officials believed constant discoveries from the Roman era were needed to keep Pompeii in the news and to preserve its spot as Italy's most popular tourist attraction.

But current administrators say this approach has become counterproductive, pointing out that they can barely afford to maintain the scores of monuments already exposed along Pompeii's lava-stone streets. As a result, only 34 acres out of Pompeii's excavated 115 acres are open to visitors, half the expanse on view 50 years ago.

The damage resulting from these years of neglect is readily visible in the dead city. Tourists pick up small pieces of marble for souvenirs, plastic water bottles lie at the feet of Roman columns and stray dogs roam the streets.

Damage from looting
Thieves frequently raid the sites. During the past 30 years, more than 600 items, from frescoes to bricks, have been pilfered from Pompeii. One of the worst thefts occurred in 1977, when someone hacked 14 frescoes from a villa known as the House of the Gladiators. And in January, thieves cut two frescoes from the House of the Chaste Lovers. (Pompeii houses are usually named after prominent paintings, sculptures or other artifacts.)

Administrators suspect that some guards participated in past looting, while local criminal gangs have tried to bid on restoration projects.

In any case, Pompeii's archaeological superintendent, Pietro Giovanni Guzzo, in office for a decade, decreed an end to the expansion of digs outward. He says digging down not only allows him to spend money on preserving the already exposed parts of Pompeii, but also is scientifically rewarding.

"By searching vertically, one uncovers the full history of the city. The surface Roman part is only part of the story," Guzzo said in a recent interview. "Going deep doesn't cost so much. It won't include restoration or opening more area to tourism or hiring more guards."

Subterranean Pompeii may not contain the luxurious villas and elegant sculptures found on the surface, but for archaeologists trained to perceive a universe in a clay shard, it is no less exciting.

"Pompeii is a city which, unluckily for it but fortunately for us, is best known for being destroyed. In everyone's mind, it is frozen at the moment of destruction, when it was a Roman city," said Emmanuele Curti, the chief archaeologist on the latest dig. "But Pompeii was a city long before that, and it's good to remind the world of that."

Giving the Samnites their due
In short, it's time the Samnites got their due. "They were traditionally considered unimportant, but that's because they lost out to the Romans, and the Romans got to write history," Curti said.

The Samnites were a tribal people who occupied much of southern central Italy and expanded to the Pompeii area around the 6th century B.C. Beginning in 343 B.C., they fought three wars with Rome, which had not yet become the peninsula's sole power.

Taking advantage of a moment when the Samnites were busy fighting the Greeks, the Romans invaded their territory. The Romans tried to set up colonies near Naples, but the Samnites struck back. At one point, Samnite troops trapped a Roman army in a mountain pass and forced it to surrender.

The humiliated Roman Senate eventually orchestrated a counterattack. Preparations for renewed war included construction of the Appian Way, a road that runs south from Rome toward Naples. The Romans also adopted the checkerboard offensive troop formation used by the Samnites. Historians consider the flexible formation a major military advance for the future rulers of the Western world.

For the third war, the Samnites allied with Gauls and Etruscans. To Rome, this was truly an axis of evil; all were venerable foes. But the Samnites were defeated quickly, their allies later. Pompeii fell in 290 B.C. Still, the Romans were interested in peace, not occupation. They signed an alliance that permitted the Samnites to effectively rule themselves and maintain autonomy for 200 years.

That long peace ended early in the 1st century B.C., when the Samnites, along with other subjugated peoples, rebelled. You're either with us or against us, the Romans decided. They not only conquered Samnite cities, including Pompeii, but established military colonies inside Samnite territory, forced Latin on the people and killed anyone who resisted.

The victorious general, Lucius Cornelius Sulla, built a temple to Venus in Pompeii. Until last month, it was thought the temple stood on unimportant ground in the ancient city. It turns out that it was built on top of the Samnites' temple to Mephitis, their own love goddess. Archaeologists say they expect to find the center of the temple beneath the toppled columns of the Roman Temple of Venus.

The bath and amulets indicate the Samnite practice of ritual prostitution, in which young women, rich and poor alike, submitted to sex as a rite of passage, said Curti, the archaeologist.

"To our post-Victorian minds, the practice seems strange. But we can't look at this society through our eyes," he observed. "Probably, the practice became professional at some point. This was, after all, a port city."
© 2004 The Washington Post Company

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5533957/
 
Call me Vulgar, but I though they were going to mention sewers...
 
Greets

(or maybe the POO thread ...)

Falcons Fly to the Rescue of Ancient Herculaneum
Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:18 AM ET

ROME (Reuters) - After being buried in boiling mud when Mount Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD, the ruined ancient city of Herculaneum is now being deluged with acidic pigeon droppings.

The situation has got so bad that archaeologists have called in three falcons to scare away the hundreds of pigeons that have set up home in the once-vibrant Roman town.

The birds will start work in Herculaneum next Monday and are expected to stay for at least a year.

Maria Paola Guidobaldi, director of the Herculaneum excavations, believes as many as 400 pigeons a day visit the open air site, disfiguring exposed frescoes with their excrement, chipping charred roof beams with their beaks and nesting in the stuccoed villas.

Herculaneum is much smaller than neighboring Pompeii and attracts far fewer visitors. But its houses, which were embalmed in mud while Pompeii's were buried in ash, are better preserved, with striking frescoes and mosaics.

However, while Pompeii is largely free of pigeons, Herculaneum attracts them because it is sited within a living town -- Ercolano -- full of litter and scraps from humans.

© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=7383944&src=rss/scienceNews

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Pompei discovery for Swedish archeologists
(AFP) Swedish archeologists have discovered a Stone Age settlement covered in ash under the ruins of the ancient city of Pompei, indicating that the volcano Vesuvius engulfed the area in lava more than 3,500 years before the famous 79 AD eruption.

The archeologists recently found burnt wood and grains of emmer wheat in the earth under Pompei, Anne-Marie Leander Touati, a professor of archeology at Stockholm University who led the team, told AFP.

"Carbon dating shows that the finds are from prehistoric times, that is, from 3,500 years BC," Leander Touati said. It was until now believed that Pompei was first inhabited during the Bronze Age.

The group of archeologists - part of a larger international project - were mapping a Roman neighbourhood of Pompei when they made the discovery.

"It was a real fluke," Leander Touati said, explaining that the group was emptying a well to determine its use when it made the find.

"We realized that the well was a lot deeper than we thought, and we sent a guy down into the well. He moved some of the earth and suddenly he was in prehistoric times," she said.

The Stone Age remains were covered in a thick layer of ash. On top of that a a layer of ceramic shards was found, which according to Leander Touati could be from the Bronze Age. Additional geological layers lay on top of that, and on top of it all were the ruins of Pompei.

Pompei was covered in lava when Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD. The excellently preserved ruins have become one of the world's most visited archaeological sites.

Leander Touati said her group was now planning the next step.

"We're going down there again," she said.

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Phil Whitley | 17th April 2005 | 20.51 | Report Comment
IThe reference to corn grains being found at this date is of particular interest to me. (3500 B.C.)

My studies into the development of maize/corn all lead to it having been developed from a large grass (teosinte) in MesoAmerica by the Aztec around the same date, and only reached both coasts of Mexico by 1600 BC.

If the Pompei find is truly corn, this would indicate trade via sea travel at a much earlier date than previously known!

I would like to hear more on this anomaly. Great article!

Phil

Fredrik Jonsson | 18th April 2005 | 03.40 | Report Comment
I think they are using corn in the more general sense, referring to some type of cereal. I, too, would be very surprised if they had actually found maize beneath Pompei.

The Local | 18th April 2005 | 16.30 | Report Comment
Please note the clarification in this article. The grains found were not corn as previously reported, but emmer wheat.

José Luis Belmar | 18th April 2005 | 23.09 | Report Comment
Thanks God! I do not imagine the people of Pompei making tortillas.
 
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Identity of Pompeii's mystery horse revealed
http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-11-ide ... ealed.html
November 3rd, 2010 in Chemistry / Biochemistry

(PhysOrg.com) -- The identity of a mysterious breed of "horse" which has baffled experts since its remains were uncovered at Pompeii has been resolved by a Cambridge University researcher – who realised it was a donkey.

Academics initially believed that they had unearthed a new, now-extinct, breed of horse when they analysed DNA sequences from skeletons found at a house in the ancient Roman town in 2004.

But Susan Gurney, working with Dr Peter Forster on horse genetics at the University of Cambridge, revisited the study and found that their initial excitement was misplaced.

Writing in the new issue of the Journal of Cellular Biochemistry, Gurney, from the University's Institute of Continuing Education, explains that there appears to have been a mix-up in the lab, which resulted in horse DNA being combined with that of a donkey to create an artificial hybrid.

The research could still prove important, however, as the newly identified donkey may well be the first proof that the "Somali" ass lineage normally found in Italy dates back to at least Roman times.

The original study six years ago analysed the skeletons of equids that belonged to a rich Roman household in Pompeii. All five were well preserved by the volcanic ash which covered Pompeii and the nearby settlement of Herculaneum when Mount Vesuvius erupted in AD79.

They were found in the stables at the house of the Casti Amanti (chaste lovers), so-called because its walls have frescoes depicting a romantic scene. This house was probably owned by Caius Iulius Polybius, a wealthy politician and baker in ancient Pompeii - as shown by the fact that the house contains an open oven and four wheat grindstones.

The team looked at the mitochondrial DNA sequences (mtDNA) of each of the horses. Four standard mtDNA types were quickly identified, but the fifth "horse" appeared to be of an exotic and mysterious DNA type no longer found today.

In a subsequent paper, the researchers reported that this must be from a different, unknown breed of horse, which had perhaps since disappeared.

When Susan Gurney re-examined the research, however, she realised that they had made an error in the laboratory, accidentally combining a donkey mtDNA sequence with that of a horse, and thus generating a hybrid which had actually never existed at all.

In her journal article, she explains that the first 177 nucleotides (molecules which form the structural units of a DNA sequence) match existing patterns for donkeys. The remaining 193 nucleotides match those of an existing breed of horse.

"Looking at the research with hindsight, it's possible to recognise two separate strands of horse and donkey DNA," she said. "In addition, the horse DNA that appears to have been inadvertently mixed in with the donkey's genetic information is the same type as that found in another Herculaneum horse, which might be the source of the mistake."

Despite the erroneous conclusion, however, the finding is still an important one: The donkey DNA finds its closest match with the DNA of domestic donkeys that are related to the Somali wild ass, typically found in Italy today.

In other European countries, asses are often descended from the Nubian lineage instead.

As a result, the ancient Pompeiian donkey DNA sequence, if confirmed, may well represent the origins of that division, and provide valuable early evidence that the Somali breed appeared in Italy at least as early as Roman times.

Provided by University of Cambridge
 
Pompeii at the British Museum
A new show at the British Museum will include staggering survivals of the 2,000 year-old volcanic disaster in Pompeii among its 250 objects, writes Harry Mount.
By Harry Mount
6:02PM BST 20 Sep 2012

When you walk round Pompeii, the biggest crowds always gather in front of the poignant plaster casts of the dead Romans – killed not by the lava, but by the intense heat and fumes that rushed through the streets before the lava engulfed them.

You feel an immediate, agonising human sympathy with these poor, ancient Italians – their bodies hunched in terror – even though they were wiped out almost 2,000 years ago. In a nutshell, that human element is what makes the Pompeii story so eternally compelling; and what will make next spring’s blockbuster at the British Museum as big a draw as the last Pompeii exhibition, one of the great British shows of the 1970s, along with the Tutankhamun exhibition.

The volcanic eruption miraculously preserved whole houses and grids of streets, mosaics, erotic frescoes and sculptures. But it is the human story that ensures Pompeii’s continued grip on the imagination of the wider public, and not just the Senior Common Room. Drawing heavily on the collections in Naples and Pompeii, the British Museum show will include staggering survivals among its 250 objects. Many of them have never been outside Italy – including delicate marble reliefs, intricate ivory panels and the moving wall painting of the baker Terentius Nero and his wife, brandishing the writing materials that advertise their literacy.

Herculaneum – the seaside town next to the bigger trading port of Pompeii – was affected in a different way by the eruption, leading to some unique survivals. Six pieces of wooden furniture were carbonised by the boiling hot ash that covered Herculaneum, but they weren’t obliterated as they would have been in Pompeii, where the volcano’s force was more powerful. That furniture includes a linen chest, inlaid stool, garden bench and, most stirring of all, a baby’s crib, still rocking on its curved runners.

Again, that human element catches at the heart, as it will do with the plaster casts of the dead that are coming to London. In one, two parents and their two children are huddled together under the stairs of their villa, frozen in fear – and frozen for all time – in the stricken pose they adopted in 79 AD. Also on display will be the most famous of all casts, of a dog. Might it be the very same dog that inspired the best-known mosaic in the Roman Empire, the one laid on someone’s front porch, above the words "Cave Canem", "Beware of the dog"?

The survival of the casts is its own little miracle. Pompeii was first excavated only in 1748, and was gradually, slowly uncovered. Still, today, much of Herculaneum, as well as a third of the north half of Pompeii, and a big part of the south-east section, remain unexplored. Thank God – the unexcavated, lava-covered site is still protected from air and moisture, while sub-standard preservation of the exposed area has led to some tragic losses. In 2010, the Schola Armatorum, the House of the Gladiators, collapsed after heavy rain undermined the structure. Italy’s parlous economy doesn’t help matters.

That slow pace of the original excavation meant much of the site – and many of the dead – had not yet been uncovered by 1860, when the archaeologist Giovanni Fiorelli arrived on the scene. He was the man who perfected the art of pouring plaster into the lava cavities formed by the corpses, to create those memorable casts.

For all the tragedy of those deaths, the eruption of Vesuvius was a godsend for modern archaeologists, or anyone who wants to look at real Roman life – the focus of the British Museum exhibition.

etc...

‘Life and death in Pompeii and Herculaneum’ will be at the British Museum, London WC1, March 28-September 29 2013. For Tickets, go to www.britishmuseum.org

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/ ... useum.html
 
Pompeii is on my "bucket list" - and that isn't all that long anymore.

Hopefully, one day...
 
Pompeii exhibition: Life and Death in Pompeii and Herculaneum, British Museum, review
The British Museum’s stunning new exhibition transports the visitor back to the days before disaster struck the people of Pompeii and Herculaneum, says Richard Dorment.
By Richard Dorment
6:30AM GMT 26 Mar 2013

At the entrance to this show, isolated from the main body of exhibits, we encounter a glass vitrine containing three objects. The first is a plaster cast of a dog, its grotesquely convulsed body evidence of the agony in which it died. Almost more horrible, its collar tells us that it was probably a guard dog left tethered to its place when Pompeii was buried in volcanic debris. The second and third objects are from Herculaneum – a wooden table turned by extreme heat into charcoal, and a fragment of fresco showing a banquet where a table of the same design is in use.

Wall labels explain that when Vesuvius erupted in the late summer or autumn of AD 79, a dense black cloud shot into the sky. Volcanic ash and pumice then rained down on Pompeii, killing those who were still out of doors or burying the ones who had stayed inside when roofs and walls collapsed. Even more lethal was a later volcanic emission called a pyroclastic surge. A swift avalanche of superheated gas, ash and pumice, its extreme heat essentially cooked people and animals buried under volcanic debris.

In Herculaneum, where there had been no build-up of ash and pumice, the pyroclastic surge was the sole cause of death. Annihilation happened instantaneously. The population was simply incinerated
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Nineteenth-century archaeologists digging at Pompeii discovered areas of void under the solid volcanic stone. They soon realised that the voids were spaces made by dead bodies that had retained their shapes long enough for layers of ash to build up around them. As the cadavers decayed under the ash, they left cavities into which plaster could be poured to create casts like the dog we see here.

At Herculaneum all that remained of the victims were their skeletons. Because there were no bodies, there were no voids from which to take plaster casts. Unlike in Pompeii, the fierce heat instantly carbonised furniture and foodstuffs. The table we see in this exhibition could only have come from Herculaneum, just as a plaster cast can only come from Pompeii. This is the first exhibition to combine material discovered at both sites to give a fuller picture of life in small seaside towns south of Naples during the 1st century AD.

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There have been other important exhibitions about Pompeii and an endless stream of books and TV programmes, so you may think you know what is coming next. I can only tell you that nothing I’ve seen or read before tells the story in the way the British Museum does. For after reminding us of the terrible fate of the two cities, the curator uses a device familiar to us in films, when, after the opening credits fade, the words “TWO DAYS EARLIER” appear on screen.

The exhibition goes back in time. Suddenly we find ourselves walking through an installation that beautifully evokes the plan of a large seaside villa on a clear bright morning a few days before the tragedy. As we pass from the atrium adorned with fountains and statues, into a cubiculum where a family member slept, a dining area, kitchen and garden room, we are introduced to the objects and works of art in daily use in these two towns.

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...in the final stark and understated galleries, the emotional impact is infinitely more powerful than in any telling of the story I’ve ever read or seen. These galleries are devoted to the plaster casts such as those of the wealthy young family who were the probable owners of the house on the outskirts of Pompeii that contained those beautiful garden-room frescoes. They died together at home, crouched in a cramped alcove under the stairs. Engulfed in the searing heat and ash of the last pyroclastic surge, father and mother fell backwards, their hands raised as if to protect their faces, while the child who had been sitting in its mother’s lap rears up as though to claw at a wall. A younger child lies apart from the rest, perhaps because she was unable to keep still in her mother’s arms during the family’s long futile wait for their nightmare to end.

If, like me, you are bored stiff by the effusions of the ubiquitous Dr Mary Beard, this show is your antidote. Curator Paul Roberts has done a superb job in bringing these objects to life, using them in such a way that each work in the show adds something new to our understanding of the classical world. The structure of the show is all-important, for it’s only as you are leaving that you realise that, despite the title, it is really about life in Pompeii and Herculaneum, not death.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/ ... eview.html
 
It certainly seems worth a visit:

Reviews: Life and Death in Pompeii and Herculaneum

The British Museum's latest exhibition has received five-star reviews from critics.

Life and Death in Pompeii and Herculaneum displays the hidden treasures preserved for nearly 200 years after Mount Vesuvius erupted in AD79.
With more than 400 objects on display, many have never been seen outside of Italy.

Here is a selection of reviews of the exhibition...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21938225
 
Unlocking the secrets of the scrolls of Herculaneum

The British Museum's 2013 show of artefacts from the Roman cities of Pompeii and Herculaneum, buried in ash during an explosive eruption of Mount Vesuvius, was a sell-out. But could even greater treasures - including lost works of classical literature - still lie underground?

For centuries scholars have been hunting for the lost works of ancient Greek and Latin literature. In the Renaissance, books were found in monastic libraries. In the late 19th Century papyrus scrolls were found in the sands of Egypt. But only in Herculaneum in southern Italy has an entire library from the ancient Mediterranean been discovered in situ.

On the eve of the catastrophe in 79 AD, Herculaneum was a chic resort town on the Bay of Naples, where many of Rome's top families went to rest and recuperate during the hot Italian summers.

It was also a place where Rome's richest engaged in a bit of cultural one-upmanship - none more so than Lucius Calpurnius Piso Caesoninus, a politician and father-in-law of Julius Caesar.

In Herculaneum, Piso built a seaside villa on a palatial scale - the width of its beach frontage alone exceeds 220m (721ft). When it was excavated in the middle of the 18th Century, it was found to hold more than 80 bronze and marble statues of the highest quality, including one of Pan having sex with a goat...

Fascinating article on new techniques to read the carbonised scrolls.
 
Pompeii victim crushed by boulder while fleeing eruption

Archaeologists at Pompeii have uncovered the remains of an unfortunate man who was decapitated by an enormous rock while fleeing the volcano.

Nearby Mount Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD, killing many Pompeii residents and famously freezing them in place.

This skeleton appears to be from a man who survived the initial explosion and was fleeing the doomed city.

A leg injury, however, may have slowed him down before he was crushed by the huge stone hurtling through the air.

Pompeii archaeologists say the skeleton shows signs of a bone infection in his leg, which could have made walking - much less running - very difficult.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44303247
 
Pompeii victim crushed by boulder while fleeing eruption

Archaeologists at Pompeii have uncovered the remains of an unfortunate man who was decapitated by an enormous rock while fleeing the volcano.

Nearby Mount Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD, killing many Pompeii residents and famously freezing them in place.

This skeleton appears to be from a man who survived the initial explosion and was fleeing the doomed city.

A leg injury, however, may have slowed him down before he was crushed by the huge stone hurtling through the air.

Pompeii archaeologists say the skeleton shows signs of a bone infection in his leg, which could have made walking - much less running - very difficult.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44303247
This was a fascinating story, but sadly I must confess that the hilarious "cartoon violence" quality of the poor bloke hit exactly on the head by the flying rock somehow spoiled the sombreness! I am clearly a very wicked person.
 
... I must confess that the hilarious "cartoon violence" quality of the poor bloke hit exactly on the head by the flying rock somehow spoiled the sombreness! I am clearly a very wicked person.

You're not alone - I confessed to the same (IMHO, unavoidable ...) impression in the Humor and Jokes thread ... :evillaugh:
 
This was a fascinating story, but sadly I must confess that the hilarious "cartoon violence" quality of the poor bloke hit exactly on the head by the flying rock somehow spoiled the sombreness! I am clearly a very wicked person.

You're not alone - I confessed to the same (IMHO, unavoidable ...) impression in the Humor and Jokes thread ... :evillaugh:

Too soon?
 
Turns out, the great lump of stone wasn't the cause of death - his skull's been recovered intact. He likely suffocated in the pyroclastic flow and the stone fell later.

https://gizmodo.com/skull-of-crushed-pompeii-resident-found-intact-1827237413

So Obelix is off the hook.

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Then why did his head fall off? Old age?
 
... Herculaneum – the seaside town next to the bigger trading port of Pompeii – was affected in a different way by the eruption, leading to some unique survivals. Six pieces of wooden furniture were carbonised by the boiling hot ash that covered Herculaneum, but they weren’t obliterated as they would have been in Pompeii, where the volcano’s force was more powerful. That furniture includes a linen chest, inlaid stool, garden bench and, most stirring of all, a baby’s crib, still rocking on its curved runners. ... l

Still, the end wasn't pleasant at Herculaneum. At least death seems to have come very quickly ...

Pompeii volcano ‘boiled people’s blood instantly’ and made their heads explode
When Mount Vesuvius erupted in 79AD, it buried the towns of Pompeii and Herculaneum in ash – and skeletons found in Herculaneum have revealed a new (and morbid) secret.

Researchers now believe the searing heat may have boiled people’s blood instantly – leading their heads to explode.

In research published in PLoS One, scientists from the Federico II University Hospital in Naples, Italy analysed skeletons found in waterfront chambers in Herculaneum.

The remains are incredibly well preserved, having been buried under volcanic ash for more than than 1,600 years.

The researchers analysed red and black residues found on the outside of the skeletons and came to a startling conclusion – it was their own blood. ...

The researchers believe the searing heat in the chambers may have boiled the people’s blood – making their heads explode.

The researchers write, ‘An extraordinary find concerns skulls filled with ash, which indicates that after evaporation of the organic liquids the brain was replaced by ash.
‘The presence of such an ash cast in all victims, even those showing minor heat effects, provides evidence that the surge was sufficiently hot and fluid to penetrate the intracranial cavity soon after soft tissues and organic fluids disappeared.

The markings, the researchers say, ‘strongly suggest a widespread pattern of heat-induced hemorrhage, intracranial pressure increase and bursting, most likely to be the cause of instant death of the inhabitants in Herculaneum.’

SOURCE: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pompeii-v...d-instantly-made-heads-explode-122143229.html
 
New graffiti clue to the exact date of the 79 AD / CE Vesuvius eruption ...

Pompeii Graffiti May Rewrite Time Line of Vesuvius Eruption
Graffiti scribbled on the wall of a Pompeii house that was being renovated in A.D. 79 may help solve a long-standing mystery about when Mount Vesuvius erupted that year, burying the Roman settlement in ash.

There is little doubt among archaeologists and historians that Vesuvius erupted and destroyed Pompeii in the year A.D. 79. But experts still debate the time of year when the volcano blew its top.

The newly discovered graffiti, written in Latin, indicates that it was created on a date that, on our calendar, corresponds to Oct. 17. ...

FULL STORY: https://www.livescience.com/63866-pompeii-graffiti-rewrites-vesuvius-timeline.html
 
'Pompeii inscription rewrites the history of Vesuvius eruption'.

The URL is too long for posting. Fascinating article - search under Sky News - which I thought might be of interest.
 
Tally H ...

The remains of a horse still in its harness have been discovered at a villa outside the walls of Pompeii, in what archaeologists are hailing as a find of "rare importance".

The horse was saddled up and ready to go, possibly to help rescue Pompeians fleeing the AD 79 eruption of Mount Vesuvius that buried the town in ashes. It was found with the remains of other horses at the Villa of the Mysteries. The villa belonged to a Roman general or high-ranking military magistrate. Mount Vesuvius buried Pompeii and other nearby towns under millions of tonnes of volcanic debris. Archaeologists at the luxurious Villa of Mysteries (Villa dei Misteri) overlooking the sea have already found wine presses, ovens and extraordinary frescoes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46671050
 
Did they really need to point out that the grafitti was 'written in Latin'?

If such intrusiveness irritates you, too, you have a treat here. HG Wells would have laughed long and hard, I suspect.

https://www.sparrowdove.com/2012/03/the-footnotes-of-doctor-moron/
To be fair, quite a bit of it was written in Greek.

Select Language: Greek from the icons on the left of the screen here:

http://agp.wlu.edu/Graffiti/results

maximus otter

edit: Maximus beat me to it.

Other languages of Rome outside of Greek and Latin.

Roman_provincial_languages_150CE.png
 
edit: Maximus beat me to it.

Other languages of Rome outside of Greek and Latin.

Roman_provincial_languages_150CE.png

I am not a simpleton!

My point was that the graffiti was found in Pompeii. The main language was Latin. It would be normal only to remark upon the language if it were not the most commonly spoken/written one.

Although Yiddish and Russian were the second and third most spoken languages in the East End in 1888, few authors explicitly mention that The Goulston Street graffito was written in English as that is the natural assumption.
 
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