Targeting Particular Groups For Organ Harvesting

[ramonmercado]

I think it's important to note that all of the linked or quoted stories come from Falun Gong publications or fronts.
Not that I'd put it past the Chinese Gov't, but you have to consider the source.

Some of the stories are from the BBC quoting local chinese govt sources claiming that such transplants are NOW banned.

 

[ramonmercado]

Death-row inmates main source of organs in China: report
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-03-d ... china.html
March 7th, 2012 in Other

Executed prisoners were still the main source of organs used in transplant operations in China due to the lack of voluntary donations, a top health official was quoted saying Wednesday.

China has long vowed to reduce its reliance on death-row inmates for organs, but high demand and a chronic shortage of donations meant they remained a key source, the Legal Daily quoted Vice Health Minister Huang Jiefu as saying.

Huang reportedly made the remarks on the sidelines of the country's annual parliamentary session in Beijing where about 3,000 delegates from across the country have gathered for 10 days of meetings.

China banned the trade in human organs in 2007 and two years later began rolling out a nationwide donation system, but demand for organ transplants still far exceeds supply in the country of 1.3 billion people.

About 10,000 transplants are carried out annually, but an estimated 1.3 million people are waiting for transplants, state media said previously, opening the door to the illegal sale of organs and forced donations.

The Chinese Medical Association, an official body representing doctors, said in 2007 that China would no longer transplant organs from executed prisoners except for their immediate relatives, earlier reports said.

In 2009 Huang said the rights of death-row inmates were respected and written consent from prisoners was required before their organs could be harvested, the China Daily said at the time.
But Huang admitted that executed prisoners were "definitely not a proper source for organ transplants".

International human rights groups have long accused China of harvesting organs from executed prisoners for transplant without the consent of the prisoner or their family -- charges the government has denied.
Amnesty International China researcher Sarah Schafer said Huang's latest comments suggested "nothing much has changed".

"We feel that this lack of progress is quite chilling," Schafer told AFP. "There's no way a prisoner facing execution can give meaningful consent."

 

[ramonmercado]

Yeah right, heard this before.

China to end organ donations from executed prisoners
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17485103

Most of the transplant organs in China come from prisoners on death row

China has pledged to end the practice of taking organs from executed prisoners within the next five years, state media report.

Officials say the country would instead rely on a new national donation system for organ transplants.

Prisoners account for two thirds of China's transplant organs, according to previous estimates from state media.

Human rights groups say death row inmates are pressured to donate organs - China denies such allegations.

Huang Jiefu, vice minister of health, was quoted by state-run agency Xinhua as saying that a trial system for public organ donation has been launched in some areas.

"The pledge to abolish organ donations from condemned prisoners represents the resolve of the government," he said.

He added that organ donations from prisoners were not ideal because infections are usually high, affecting the long-term survival rates of those who undergo the transplants.

Official figures from the health ministry show that about 1.5 million people need transplants, but only 10,000 are performed annually, Xinhua says.

Rights groups estimate that China puts to death thousands of prisoners a year.

Official figures, however, remain a state secret, according to the BBC's Martin Patience in Beijing.

He adds that the country faces a severe shortage of organ donors, partly because many people do not want to donate organs due to the cultural belief of that they should be buried whole.

This has led to a thriving black market. Officials outlawed organ trafficking five years ago, but it still remains a problem.

The Red Cross Society of China has also said that guidelines would be issued regarding financial aid to families of the deceased organ donors to help curb the illegal organ trade.

 

[ramonmercado]

China ‘murdering Falun Gong members for organ harvesting’
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/china-mu ... -1.1459522

Oireachtas joint committee hears that some 65,000 Falun Gong practitioners have been murdered to facilitate organ transplant

Members of the outlawed Falun Gong organisation play instruments during a rally in Hong Kong. Ireland has been urged tolobby the European Union to confront the Chinese authorities more trenchantly over the forced removal of organs Photograph: Daniel J Groshong/Bloomberg

Peter Murtagh

Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 06:46

An estimated 8,000 prisoners of conscience in China have their organs removed forcibly every year to supply a burgeoning transplant market operated by the Chinese military, an Oireachtas joint committee heard yesterday.

Not all of them die but since 2001, some 65,000 Falun Gong practitioners have been murdered to facilitate organ transplant, it was claimed.

The assertions came from David Matas, a Canada-based international human rights lawyer, and Ethan Gutmann, a London-based American journalist who has specialised in investigating unethical organ harvesting in China.

Giving evidence yesterday to the Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, they urged Ireland to lobby the European Union to confront the Chinese authorities more trenchantly over the forced removal of organs, both from prisoners sentenced to death and prisoners of conscience, such as Falun Gong, and to enact legislation here to ban organ transplant tourism, as Israel has done.

“It hasn’t stopped the killing [in China],” said Mr Matas, “but it has stopped complicity and it sends a message.”

Mr Gutmann, who has been examining unethical organ harvesting in China for seven years, said there was “no legal way” for practitioners of Falun Gong to be executed. “But it’s a bit like the Inquisition,” he said, “they just disappear.”

Falun Gong is a spiritual discipline based on meditation and is opposed vigorously by the Communist authorities in China.

Mr Gutmann said evidence existed that in some instances, firing squads sought only to wound their victims so organs could be extracted from living tissue. In such cases, the removal of organs was the cause of death rather than execution.

Senator David Norris, who sponsored a motion urging the Government to use international forums to oppose forced organ harvesting in China, said what was happening was “a massive crime against humanity and mass murder”.

He decried a Department of Foreign Affairs briefing paper on the subject which he said saw the issue in terms of trade and referred to “the autonomous region of Tibet”.

His motion was passed unanimously and without a vote.

 

[GNC]

Sixty-five thousand people?! That's about two cities' worth! Are they sure about their figures? What a nightmare if they are.

 

[Monstrosa]

Sixty-five thousand people?! That's about two cities' worth! Are they sure about their figures? What a nightmare if they are.

That's about 6000 people a year.

 

[ramonmercado]

Sixty-five thousand people?! That's about two cities' worth! Are they sure about their figures? What a nightmare if they are.

Falun Gong are a Cult but one with millions of members. The figures are plausible in that context especially given the Chinese Governments admission that such organ harvesting took place in the past.

 

[ramonmercado]

Heard that one before.

China announces end date for taking prisoners' organs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-23722796

Most transplant organs came from prisoners, based on previous estimates

A senior Chinese official has said the country will phase out the practice of taking organs from executed prisoners from November.

Huang Jiefu said China would now rely on using organs from voluntary donors under a new national donation system.

Prisoners used to account for two-thirds of transplant organs, based on previous estimates from state media.

For years, China denied that it used organs from executed prisoners, but admitted it a few years ago.

Official figures from China's newly formed health and planning commission show that, on an annual basis, there are on average 300,000 patients who need organ transplants, but only 10,000 of them are able to get them, state media said.

Mr Huang, who is in charge of organ transplants and one of the country's leading surgeons, said the health ministry would start using organs from voluntary citizen donors in November.

More than 150 Chinese hospitals are expected to to confirm their participation, he added.

"I am confident that before long, all accredited hospitals will forfeit the use of prisoner organs," he told Reuters news agency on Thursday.

He also told the state-run Global Times that it was time for China to establish a "suitable organ donation system".

Human rights groups estimate that China executes thousands of prisoners a year, but correspondents say that the official figures remain a state secret.

In March last year, Mr Huang announced China's pledge to end the practice of taking organs from executed prisoners within the next five years.

At the time, he said that organ donations from prisoners were not ideal because infections are usually high, affecting the long-term survival rates of those who undergo the transplants.

Analysis
Michael Bristow
BBC News

In just a few years, China has moved from denying to admitting and now phasing out the macabre practise of harvesting organs from executed prisoners.

In the first few years of the century, officials were still refusing to confirm reports that they used organs taken from convicted criminals for transplant operations.

But in 2006, an undercover BBC team revealed that prisoners' organs were being sold to wealthy foreign patients. China then began admitting it was, after all, using the organs. It still is. According to figures supplied to Reuters news agency, more than half of transplants carried out this year used organs from executed prisoners.

The argument put forward by the authorities has been that these convicts were giving something back to society, although it is not clear how many prisoners gave their consent freely. China now seems to have bowed to global pressure to stop a practise many saw as unacceptable.

 

[ramonmercado]

Yes. Heard that one before.

China has promised to stop harvesting organs from executed prisoners by 1 January, state media report. It has said for many years that it will end the controversial practice. It previously promised to do so by November last year.

Death row inmates have long served as a key source for transplants. China has been criticised for taking their organs without consent, but has struggled to encourage voluntary donations due to cultural concerns.

Prisoners used to account for two-thirds of transplant organs, based on previous estimates from state media. For years, China denied that it used organs from executed prisoners and only admitted to the practice a few years ago. ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-30324440

 

[ramonmercado]

Now ISIS...

Apostates can be killed for food or organ transplants, IS says

US circulates fatwa reportedly seized during raid in Syria

Documents reportedly captured from the Islamic State and circulated by the US government include what appears to be an official fatwa authorising the killing of "apostates" for food or organ transplants.

According to a US government translation, IS's Research and Fatwa Committee was asked to consider whether it is "permissible to take the captured apostate's body organs and give them to Muslims who are in need of them".

The committee's reply, issued last January as Fatwa Number 68, was as follows:

"Saving a Muslim from death or deterioration is an Islamic legal duty that should be performed with every legitimate way or financial means.

"The jurists of the Shafi'i and Hanbali schools [of Islamic jurisprudence] and others permitted, when necessary, the killing of the infidel combatant or the apostate should one need to consume their flesh for the purpose of saving his own life.

"If the jurists had permitted, when necessary, the consumption of human flesh as a means to counter death or harm, then it is even more appropriate to transplant organs from the apostate to save the life of the latter. This is especially the case since it was ruled that the apostate's life and organs are not protected. On the contrary, the apostate's life and organs don't have to be respected and may be taken with impunity."

Killing an apostate by removing body parts for use in transplants is "not prohibited", it said.

- See more at: http://www.al-bab.com/blog/2015/december/eating-apostates.htm#sthash.mVHiQGWK.dpuf

 

[Mythopoeika]

Just when you thought IS had plumbed the deepest depths...they go even lower.
No basic morality.

 

[David Plankton]

"The jurists of the Shafi'i and Hanbali schools [of Islamic jurisprudence] and others permitted, when necessary, the killing of the infidel combatant or the apostate should one need to consume their flesh for the purpose of saving his own life.

Hanbali Lecter?

 

[Naughty_Felid]

Brooks

 

[GerdaWordyer]

Now ISIS...

Apostates can be killed for food or organ transplants, IS says

US circulates fatwa reportedly seized during raid in Syria

Documents reportedly captured from the Islamic State and circulated by the US government include what appears to be an official fatwa authorising the killing of "apostates" for food or organ transplants.

According to a US government translation, IS's Research and Fatwa Committee was asked to consider whether it is "permissible to take the captured apostate's body organs and give them to Muslims who are in need of them".

The committee's reply, issued last January as Fatwa Number 68, was as follows:

"Saving a Muslim from death or deterioration is an Islamic legal duty that should be performed with every legitimate way or financial means.

"The jurists of the Shafi'i and Hanbali schools [of Islamic jurisprudence] and others permitted, when necessary, the killing of the infidel combatant or the apostate should one need to consume their flesh for the purpose of saving his own life.

"If the jurists had permitted, when necessary, the consumption of human flesh as a means to counter death or harm, then it is even more appropriate to transplant organs from the apostate to save the life of the latter. This is especially the case since it was ruled that the apostate's life and organs are not protected. On the contrary, the apostate's life and organs don't have to be respected and may be taken with impunity."

Killing an apostate by removing body parts for use in transplants is "not prohibited", it said.

- See more at: http://www.al-bab.com/blog/2015/december/eating-apostates.htm#sthash.mVHiQGWK.dpuf

Let's please insult them and call them Daesh.

 

[ramonmercado]

Not offering a whole lot in exchange.

Massachusetts lawmakers proposed a bill that would allow prisoners to donate their organs or bone marrow in exchange for reduced sentences.

The legislation would “establish a Bone Marrow and Organ Donation Program within the Department of Correction and a Bone Marrow and Organ Donation Committee.” Under this program, incarcerated individuals could reduce their sentence anywhere from 60 days to one year if they donate their bone marrow or organs.

The committee will be promoting standards of eligibility for prisoners as well as determining the number of donations that could earn an individual a reduced sentence. The bill also states that the Department of Correction will not receive commissions or monetary payments for bone marrow donated by inmates. (Paying for an organ is illegal in the U.S.) ...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mass...n-reduced-sentence_n_63dc9059e4b07c0c7e090d85