Stormkhan said:And what about all those who have the potential for rape, murder etc. but never - in their entire lifetime - act on it, or even be aware of it?
Remove the potential before they do anything
There was an episode of Law and Order: Criminal Intent in which a doctor with such crackpot theories of abberrant human behaviour deliberately tried to get a convicted serial killer released because he didn't conveniently match his theory._Lizard23_ said:"Yes officer, that's the man who raped me at knifepoint"
"I know you're upset Ma'am, but I'm telling you it isn't. That guy there is a genetically pure, fine and upstanding gentleman without a hairsbredth of harm in his helix"
"..... But ....."
Righteous in the sense of sympathy and accordance with basic virtue and morality? Yes, there is a lot of that on this thread. More amazing still is that there are those that seem to take issue with it.Dingo667 said:...I never cease to be amazed by the righteousness of people.
Agree 100% with you there, in the case of premeditated and/or repeated serious crime. Rest of their life with no possibility of parole, as opposed to five or six years of segregated basket weaving before being released back into society.Mythopoeika said:What I'm saying is that if guilt is established 100%, and we are not allowed to execute these criminals, then we must at the very least be able to remove them from being a danger to the general public.
A 'life' sentence must really mean life.
I think it's bordering on it, yes, but as a discussion on the ethics of culling existent people it's within the remit of the thread. That said, perhaps we can move back onto the wider picture, rather than focussing merely on the rights and wrongs of capital punishment?Mister_Awesome said:And I don't want to be a pain in the butt, but isn't this starting to get a tad off topic?
absolutely no problem with that at all, and it is what currently happens with serial killers etc - perhaps it should be the case for more people than currently, again, no problem there.Agree 100% with you there, in the case of premeditated and/or repeated serious crime. Rest of their life with no possibility of parole
lemonpie3 said:I truly can't believe what I am reading here.
You're actually suggesting that - instead of a complicated system of law, honed over centuries with built-in systems of checks and balances, making decisions over the future of an individual accused of a crime - you're suggesting that the local heavies should beat up or killsomeone because they turn out to be nasty????????
And that mistakes would be just a temporary blip? Until tribal humankind achieves a nirvana on earth?
Are you a human?
And you, Cold Elephant, you profess to know who is guilty and who is innocent? Who is deserving of death, and who should be allowed to live?
How dare you? How dare either of you take the life and death of anyone into your warped, clammy hands.
almond13 said:It’s interesting to me that the hang and flog brigade represent about 50% and this IMHO is normal and healthy.
Among the general public, the figure is more like 80%, if BBC news online polls are representative of what the public feel (I'm just going on what I've seen in online polls).
I'm sure that if the UK had a referendum to bring back hanging, then bring it back we would.
Bloody 'Ellcoldelephant said:I would use my cold clammy hands to pull the trigger, to shoot dead all peadophiles, rapists and violent scum who abuse people throughout their lives, every day.
I would us my cold clammy hands to kill every one of those vermin because they deserve it, they do.
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coldelephant said:I would use my cold clammy hands to pull the trigger, to shoot dead all peadophiles, rapists and violent scum who abuse people throughout their lives, every day....etc, etc
almond13 said:I once read a book called “Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds”. It makes the point (in 1881 I think?) that consensus opinion is invariably wrong. But you see, scientific opinion is all consensus opinion and that is where all this came from in the first place – the madness of a crowd of scientists in a hall.
Timble2 said:coldelephant said:I would use my cold clammy hands to pull the trigger, to shoot dead all peadophiles, rapists and violent scum who abuse people throughout their lives, every day....etc, etc
You're obviously a sad little troll...at least you confine your sadistic little fantasies to the internet.
Wow! A mind reader too! :shock:coldelephant said:...
I think your answer will be that you don't know, but you object to my saying I would kill them all.
It's funny, you don't think they are sadistic but that I am.
Maybe I am a little sadistic, but I am not as sadistic as they are.