Pyramids' Powers (Pyramid Power; Pyramidology)

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I noticed in the latest issue of FT there is an ad for a pyramid kit. I've heard before about various strange powers that pyramids are supposed to have such as sharpening razor blades, keeping things fresh etc.

Has anyone here experimented with pyramids? If so, what was the result? Or anyone know of any reports of such happenings?

Thanks

Unlikely
 
I don't know of anyone who has had any success in demonstrating the powers that are claimed for pyramids. I tried once, in my youth, without any success.

I'm with Terry Pratchett on this one. The work (and deaths) of thousands of slaves invested over many decades, if not centuries, is a lot of effort to go to in order to sharpen a razor blade.;)
 
If the sides of said pyramid are quite course you could sharpen a very blunt razor with it, just not very well. Use it for storing your dead instead...

Az
 
Or signalling to the huge sentient being that is the horsehead nebula...apparently
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I too tried this in my youth and it was spectacularly unsuccessful. Might have been something to do with the particular brand of cornflakes I used the box from, or maybe the sellotape wasn't Egyptian enough.
 
sarah ferguson

I remember hearing that Fergie spends a few hours a day sitting under a pyramid... Doesn't seem to have helped her any.
 
Good plan though- if anyone could use being a little sharper, surely its her.
 
Pyramids

I am responding to the poster who suggested that pyramids are the result of the work of thousands of slaves who gave their lives. I am assuming that the poster is refering to the Gizeh triad. There is a great deal of extensive archeological work being done in Egypt right now on the town surrounding the Gizeh triad. Zai Hawass (I am not sure if I am spelling his name correctly) is heading up a dig of the surrounding cities, and what he is finding is that despite the popular idea that the workers who built the pyramids were slaves, they appear to actually have been part of a collective that freely worked on the structures. Hawass is uncovering an extensive civilization that includes farm land, home dwellings, etc that appear to have been occupied by a free and thriving group of people that were the actual workers on the pyramids (skeletal remains show extensive bone degenration, etc indicating that they were laborers on the pyramids) I think that in this modern day we look at these huge structures and assume that people would never have dedicated thier lives to a project without having been enslaved by the Kings of Egypt. One must remember that the Egyptians were OBSESSED with death and death ritual. Contributing to the pyramids of Khofu, Khafre and Menkare, which were built over a span of 87 years, would have been considered an honor. Look at the art historical records of the Near East, including Egypt and you will find almost no record of enslavement. It is only as you go further West into the Medeteranian that you start to uncover detailed records of enslavement.

I wonder if people of the future would look at our highway systems, bridges, skyscrapers and come to the same conclusion that we must have enslaved thousands in order to accomplish these architectural feats.
 
Some of the houses in that site are bigger than mine! If they turn out to have belonged to slaves I'm going to be really upset.
How long would it have taken them to assemble such a huge force of skilled workman? How much would it have cost?
Probably less than invading enough places to get as many slaves as would have been needed.
 
why does everyone keep talking as if pyramids were tombs? i thought no bodies have ever been found in them. the egyptians buried their dead in small purpose built crypts. (i may be wrong):blah:
 
Inverurie Jones said:
How long would it have taken them to assemble such a huge force of skilled workman? How much would it have cost?
Probably less than invading enough places to get as many slaves as would have been needed.
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Why would it have to be a large work force, if the building took place over a large period of time? A small highly experienced group of artisans that spent most of the year creating the components for the structure and then, during one part of the year (say during the Nile's annual floods) were reinforced by a significant portion of the population, could not carry out the construction over a relativly short period of only a few years. It doesn't take genius or extreme wealth or manpower, only organisational skills. Don't do what so many people do and think that just because our ancestors didn't have the automible and intergrtaed circuit that they were stupid...

Niles "Floods Annually" Calder
 
I didn't make that assumption. Didn't the rest of the population have anything better to do? I regard our ancestors as being considerably smarter specifically because they didn't have those things!
 
Niles "Floods Annually" Calder

Amazing we had to wait so long for that one, really!
 
Inverurie Jones said:
I didn't make that assumption. Didn't the rest of the population have anything better to do? I regard our ancestors as being considerably smarter specifically because they didn't have those things!
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I never said that you did, it was a general statement... Anyway, to answer your question: during the annual flooding of the Nile river (which in itself allowed the nation of Egypt to exist - no floods resulted in famine) there indeed was very little else for people to do since the fields were underwater. So, to prevent unrest by bored peaseants, the pheroes may have very well ordered wars and other public works in way of a distraction... perfect if you need people to build big buildings for you...

Niles "Pheroe-nuff" Calder
 
Well, Von Daniken had me convinced all those years ago! He's supposed to be publishing a new book, anyone heard anything about it?

Forty2 :p
 
The pyramids were used for burial. You are almost right in saying that there have been no bodies found in them to date. Tutankamen is the only body to have been found of any Pharoh at this point. All of the pyrramids have been looted long ago, and the bodies scattered to the wind. Since Egyptians are always buried with grave goods the tombs were always looted. This is why most tombs are set up with multiple chambers, the King's chamber, a afalse chamber and a so called Queen's chaber (even though the Queens were NEVER burried with the Kings, but reside in the Queen's vally, except for Hatshupsut, who was a woman Pharoh, and the only woman known to have been burried in the King's Vally.) There have been discoveries of the "Ka" of some Pharoh's in several of the phyramids, which gived weight to the concept of the pyrmaids being burial tombs. The Egyptians believed of rebirth after death, but, being so obsessed with the physical as they are, they believed that the spirit must reside within a body, hense mummification. The body must be preserved in order to give a home to the spirit. They were not stuoid however and realized that in some cases mummification may not work and the body may putrify, in which case the spirit would be homeless, so Pharohs were always buried near a statue of themselves, known as the Ka, that would become the new home for the body should the mummification process not work. The Ka is located in a seperate chamber within the pyramid complex.

For the poster who tought that the Egyptians were buried in smaller tombs and not the pyramids themselves, they are partly correct. The pyramids are a evolution actually of earlier grave temples known as Mastabas. The Mastabas are essentially a one story raised block of a structure that sontained the essential elements of the pyrmaid, King's chamber, etc. The as the Egyptian empire grew in wealth, they started stacking them on top of each other so that they were essentially stepped pyramids (the oldest known piece of architecture in the world is the stepped pyramid at Djoser by the architect Imhotepe). From the stepped pyramid the phyramid was born after the recognition of the sun god Ra and his symbol.
 
SME and sharpening blades

Razor blades demonstrate what is known as Shape Memory Effect (SME) exemplified by the alloy nitonol. When they get blunt ( bent slightly out of shape ) the metal springs back into almost its original shape over the course of a week. Hence, a blunt blade can be "sharpened" by leaving it under a alone for a week. First application of this knowledge was in the first world war when soldiers were issued with a razor blade for each day of the week rather than using a blade in turn until it was knackered. This reasoning still works today. Pyramid pushers have used this natural effect to push their triangular faceted wares.
 
Uhh, never heard that razor blades could do that before. But then again it is only recently I learned some materials could do it naturally. But I guess if you did a real scientific test on pyramids it would have been shown.

What are those razor blades made of, nitinol should be quite expensive.
 
Plain old steel razor blades do this.I used Nitonol as an example of the effect in action. The same processes occur in steel, not to the same degree as nitonol, but enough to make a razor blade become sharp again over the course of a week. The SME with nitonol happens very fast.

A proper scientific experiment on pyramid power would have a control, which would show the irrelevance of the pyramid in the process.
 
The effect was known long before the Great War, I've seen Victorian sets of seven cut throat razors, each one engraved with a day of the week!!!!!
 
Excellent David. The earliest sets I had seen were the WW1 ones - but all of this must mean that the SME properties of razor blades must have been fairly common knowledge amongst anyone that shaves - when did this knowledge fade out, and when did someone first link the use of a pyramid with sharpening ? Anyone have any details ?
 
I did wonder why one razor with two interchangeable blades managed to last me more than a year. Shaving only twice a week might have helped.
 
David said:
The effect was known long before the Great War, I've seen Victorian sets of seven cut throat razors, each one engraved with a day of the week!!!!!
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There is a whodunnit based on this idea, called "The Seven Razors of Ockham"! I took it out of the library purely on the basis of its title, having been involved in a bit of a debate with a colleague here about the value (or otherwise) of Occam's Razor...

An amusing book, with much cod history and etymology, even if not top class detective fiction.
 
Now I'll have to go out and buy some razor blades. But with nitinol I thought it was something about the material having to be warmed first before it went back into shape. Does steel do it naturally? And how much bending back can it do then?

That's what I meant, in a scientific experiment they would have been able to show the control group did the same thing. So they would have been shown wrong.
 
pyramids

we tried razors when we were kids,Dad said it seemed to work.But what really worked was vegetables inside the pyramid when a control next to the pyramid went rotten quicker than the vegetable in the pyramid,perhaps refrigerators should be pyramid shaped,or those ancient egyptians really knew how to keep there food!!!:D
 
The amount of recovery that steel can do is very limited - not visible to the naked eye. It is enough for a blade to be noticably sharper though. I don't have any of my old textbooks any more so I can't quote you any figures. As far as I can remember it is something to do with crystal states within the metal, and nitonol is unusual in the fact that the two states are within the range of normal everyday temperatures
 
I could imagine the fresh fruit thing could be affected by which fruit you took. For example if you have to bananas, laying an apple next to one of them will make it mature faster. So a green banana would turn yellow and a yellow would turn brown. It's some chemicals that the apple spits out.
 
Xanatic said:
I could imagine the fresh fruit thing could be affected by which fruit you took. For example if you have to bananas, laying an apple next to one of them will make it mature faster. So a green banana would turn yellow and a yellow would turn brown. It's some chemicals that the apple spits out.
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It's actually the banana that releases gases as it ripens that adversely affect other fruit.

Horticultural Gumbomon
 
All fruit release tannins as they ripen, hence the saying 'one bad apple spoils the barrel'. 'cos it does.
 
Bananas release quite a lot of nitrous oxide and ?methane? which act as triggers to ripening, don't they.
 
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