Relics

[escargot]

The Ancient Greek Theatre is probably where St Genesius got it from.

Saints don't choose their emblems. Emblems are foisted on them long after they are dead by the Catholic Church.

 

[gordonrutter]

Saints don't choose their emblems. Emblems are foisted on them long after they are dead by the Catholic Church.

Indeed not as by definition a saint is dead. I meant he as a saint got it from there ie the church gave it to him, not he as a person

 

[escargot]

Indeed not as by definition a saint is dead. I meant he as a saint got it from there ie the church gave it to him, not he as a person

St Genesius had been an actor in Roman theatre which was derived from the Greek original. He would have been familiar with the old sock and buskin and might have approved.

Genesius has other 'jobs' as a patron saint (of lawyers, dancers, printers etc) so could have been given, I dunno, a wig? A tutu?

 

[gordonrutter]

St Genesius had been an actor in Roman theatre which was derived from the Greek original. He would have been familiar with the old sock and buskin and might have approved.

Genesius has other 'jobs' as a patron saint (of lawyers, dancers, printers etc) so could have been given, I dunno, a wig? A tutu?

Most saints are multiple, could give them all of the above I suppose!

 

[escargot]

Most saints are multiple, could give them all of the above I suppose!

They'd need to be tagged with something easy for illiterate worshippers to recognise. The mask is highly appropriate for Genesius as he'd have seen ones like it in life.

St Gertrude has a cat. I'm not a Catholic but if I were she's the sort of saint I could get behind.

 

[gordonrutter]

They'd need to be tagged with something easy for illiterate worshippers to recognise. The mask is highly appropriate for Genesius as he'd have seen ones like it in life.

St Gertrude has a cat. I'm not a Catholic but if I were she's the sort of saint I could get behind.

Need the patience of a saint to have a cat at times!

 

[EnolaGaia]

A rare scientific examination of remains at Rome's Santi Apostoli church failed to validate them as relics of Saint Philip and Saint James the Younger. ...

Here are the bibliographic details on the published article, which is accessible (in full) at the link below.

Rasmussen, K.L., van der Plicht, J., La Nasa, J. et al.
Investigations of the relics and altar materials relating to the apostles St James and St Philip at the Basilica dei Santi XII Apostoli in Rome.
Herit Sci 9, 14 (2021).
https://doi.org/10.1186/s40494-021-00481-9

FULL ARTICLE:
https://heritagesciencejournal.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40494-021-00481-9

 

[ChasFink]

Reading this thread reminds me I had a cousin who was a buddy of John Paul II. I wish I would've asked him for a relic back when they were both alive.

 

[Naughty_Felid]

probably double-posted but not bad. It does remind me of a time that is long ago.

 

[ramonmercado]

Looks like something from an SF/Horror film.


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The skull of Mary Magdalene in St Maximin Basilica in France





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[Souleater]

Looks like something from an SF/Horror film.


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The skull of Mary Magdalene in St Maximin Basilica in France



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Hmm very Dr. Who

 

[Frideswide]

The skull of Mary Magdalene in St Maximin Basilica in France

I'd love to see a facial reconstruction. We know what the hair should be like!

 

[Souleater]

I'd love to see a facial reconstruction. We know what the hair should be like!

As with most relics it is is probably not what it is purported to be and is some 11th century monks skull

 

[Analogue Boy]

Looks like something from an SF/Horror film.


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I didn’t know she was a Daft Punk fan.

 

[Analogue Boy]

I'd love to see a facial reconstruction. We know what the hair should be like!

I’m not sure how accurate these reconstructions over skulls can be. There has to be room for creative interpretation there surely.

 

[Frideswide]

As with most relics it is is probably not what it is purported to be and is some 11th century monks skull

That's part of the fun!

I’m not sure how accurate these reconstructions over skulls can be. There has to be room for creative interpretation there surely.

That';s also part of the fun

 

[Souleater]

That's part of the fun!



That';s also part of the fun

Im guessing the church wont want to take the risk, but if someone could get a 3D scan of it there are computer programs that can do facial reconstruction from a scan.

 

[ramonmercado]

Im guessing the church wont want to take the risk, but if someone could get a 3D scan of it there are computer programs that can do facial reconstruction from a scan.

A 3D Scan might release a Demon!

 

[maximus otter]

Minion from Megamind.



maximus otter

 

[Frideswide]

Minion from Megamind.

must be some other saint - note the lack of hair!

 

[Analogue Boy]

I'd love to see a facial reconstruction. We know what the hair should be like!

There is a reconstruction.

https://strangeremains.com/2017/10/10/facial-reconstruction-of-mary-magdalenes-skull-revealed/

 

[Frideswide]

There is a reconstruction.

Thank you! and she looks reasonable - not a blue-eyed blonde I mean. I'm also pleased that she looks like a person you'd be happy to have in charge of the woodchipper

 

[feinman]

I’m not sure how accurate these reconstructions over skulls can be. There has to be room for creative interpretation there surely.

I absolutely think so too. Sometimes they have a caricaturesque quality and one can almost always detect the hand or sensibility of the artist in the reconstruction, in the same way one can detect the artist in realist paintings. Subtlety matters, and with the Egyptian reconstructions and others, there is the whole endless race debate; phenotypes don't always match with "racial" interpretations, etc.