BAGHDAD (AP) — A walkway collapsed and set off a stampede in the holy city of Karbala on Tuesday as thousands of Shiite Muslims marked one of the most solemn holy days of the year. At least 31 people were killed and about 100 were injured, officials said.
It was the deadliest stampede in recent history during Ashoura commemorations, when hundreds of thousands of people converge on the city, some 80 kilometers (50 miles) south of Baghdad, for the occasion every year.
Send them to my house we lov the little buggers with all their interesting costumes and excitement. I'll just watch some Hammer horror classics ready to pause at a moments notice till ~ 9 PM or so.I’m currently dreading the oncoming feast of St.Michael of Halloween. Here in the UK, those tubs of chocolates have got shallower with no discernible price drop as far as I can see so I have to spend more to placate the little trick or treat buggers.
It killed more Iranians than the drone strike. Perhaps the USA needs to do this more regularly in countries that have no concept of abstract ideas and organizational systems like basic crowd control?I guess this fits here. TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — A stampede erupted on Tuesday at a funeral procession for a top Iranian general killed in a U.S. airstrike last week, killing 32 people and injuring 190 others, state television reported.
It happens every year at the Hajj. No need for the USA to get involved.It killed more Iranians than the drone strike. Perhaps the USA needs to do this more regularly in countries that have no concept of abstract ideas and organizational systems like basic crowd control?
Oh dear, imagine what would the world look like if some terror cell used a dirty bomb on Mecca at Hajj? Of course the USA is a staunch ally of the Saudis so they would never be involved in such a thing.It happens every year at the Hajj. No need for the USA to get involved.
Oil is for anointing. It is supposed to go on the head. After they fell over they were anointed "with extreme unction".This time it's holy rollers, the talking in tongues can get out of hand. Oil on the floor? I can hear Slip sliding Away playing in the background. At least 20 people have been crushed to death and 16 others injured during an outdoor religious service in Tanzania. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51346644
Israel stampede: Dozens killed in crush at religious festival
Dozens of people have been killed in a stampede at a religious festival in the north-east of Israel.
Israel's national emergency service Magen David Adom (MDA) confirmed the deaths without giving exact numbers, and said dozens more had been wounded.
Newspaper Haaretz reports at least 38 people have been killed. Emergency services are evacuating the injured. ...
Videos posted online show thousands of people tightly packed together and trying to flee the chaos at the site.
It is the largest event held in the country since the coronavirus pandemic began, with tens of thousands reportedly attending. ...
Tens of thousands of Orthodox Jews make a pilgrimage to Meron each year for Lag B'Omer, an annual religious holiday marked with bonfires, prayer and dancing.
According to the Times of Israel, organisers estimated that 100,000 people arrived on Thursday night, with more set to arrive on Friday. ...
They'd been doing so well with the vaccination program and to suddenly have this happen is so sad.Update ... Now that authorities have had a chance to deal with the chaos the AP is reporting 45 dead and circa 150 injured.
Religious festival stampede in Israel kills 45, hurts dozens
And they call these mobs religion, pls pass the Tanqueray and tonic.A crowd crush or stampede has caused dozens of deaths at an Orthodox Jewish festival in Israel.
FULL STORY: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56938657
Frideswide, I've never posted an anti-religious statement to date on the forums. All I was doing was trying to turn a terrible situation towards humor, that's. But are these mobs really are they religious? A reading of Christ or Buddha perhaps. That's off topic but it is said to prove my point. I find a bit of humor can take the sting out of these terrible things. Apologies if I sounded anti-religious I'm not.Stay on topic! The title of the thread is not Let your anti-religion stance glow and make light of multiple deaths. We have threads for when things go wrong.
As always, if you disagree or want to discuss this then take it to PM or the correct thread. Don't derail this one - diversions will be snipped.
Frideswide I've never posted an anti-religious statement to date on the forums. Personally I remain open yet cautious in this area. All I was doing was trying to turn a terrible situation towards humor, that's. I find a bit of humor can take the sting out of these terrible things. Apologies if I sounded anti-religious I'm not.
I noticed another issue when looking at footage. Very few people were wearing masks and there was no social distancing. I know Israel has vaccinated most people, but maybe if they'd enforced the distancing, this may not have happened?It has emerged that the Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem had been at the event and left two hours early, urging the police to take immediate action because he felt people were in danger from large crowds. He says the police did not listen to him.
I guess they felt the event had occurred in the past without fatalities, and he was being alarmist?
A tweet from 2018 has surfaced, from a journalist, warning that at this gathering, the crowds would exit from the music site along a relatively narrow tunnel bordered by metal and stone walls, and that it was a disaster waiting to happen.
From various blogs that I know and trust, written by people who had relatives at the event, it seems that part of a grandstand collapsed above the tunnel, and that in the following confusion, some people feinted (perhaps they fell a few feet to the ground and were unconscious for that reason?).
Their friends tried to get them out of the crowds to get medical attention.
Then some people fell in the exit tunnel below the grandstand area, perhaps these were the ones who had feinted, falling into the tunnel, or were other people?
It is not clear if the grandstand collapse caused the first people to fall in the exit tunnel.
Others fell on them and so on, also falling on some steep steps near the tunnel.
One story of heroism has emerged, of a particularly strong man who somehow managed to hold back part of the crowd to make space for others.
There are allegations that the police (at first) did not help, and viewed things as crowd disorder rather than an urgent crisis.
I am loathe to blanket blame them as a force, as once the scale of the disaster became realised then they did disperse the crowds and prevent more people entering the area.
The speed of the fatal crush and chaos/confusion would have played their part.
But some police failings seem to have happened, and an investiagtion will show many lessons to be learned.
Similarities to Hillsborough - of an infrastructure not suited to the purpose it was being used for, of lack of immediate awareness amongst the police, of a crowded tunnel where extricating people would be hard, and of members of the public and emergency services doing their best against overwhelming odds.
I didn't see anyone wearing masks in the videos I saw but if social distancing had been in place then I'm sure it wouldn't have happened.I noticed another issue when looking at footage. Very few people were wearing masks and there was no social distancing. I know Israel has vaccinated most people, but maybe if they'd enforced the distancing, this may not have happened?
I noticed another issue when looking at footage. Very few people were wearing masks and there was no social distancing. I know Israel has vaccinated most people, but maybe if they'd enforced the distancing, this may not have happened?