Rewilding

ramonmercado said:
a) …few of the farmers involved had taken steps to protect their flocks, such as installing wolf-proof fences or other preventative measures b) provincial subsidies of up to €20,000 for electrified fencing.
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a) Why the **** should farmers have to, just because some Eurocrats decide over a subsidised three-bottle lunch that wolves might be fun?

b) The words “Up to” are doing a lot of work there. Forbes magazine suggests that providing electric fencing for a five-acre property costs about $7,000 dollars. (US dollars and Euros are roughly equal in value.) I shoot over two farms of roughly 640 and 300 acres respectively. Do the maths yourself…

I fail to see why farmers - already a vanishing species themselves - shouldn’t be required to beggar themselves and toil harder, simply to protect their livestock from introduced animals which the EU itself wants to have culled.

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
a) Why the **** should farmers have to, just because some Eurocrats decide over a subsidised three-bottle lunch that wolves might be fun?

b) The words “Up to” are doing a lot of work there. Forbes magazine suggests that providing electric fencing for a five-acre property costs about $7,000 dollars. (US dollars and Euros are roughly equal in value.) I shoot over two farms of roughly 640 and 300 acres respectively. Do the maths yourself…

I fail to see why farmers - already a vanishing species themselves - shouldn’t be required to beggar themselves and toil harder, simply to protect their livestock from introduced animals which the EU itself wants to have culled.

maximus otter
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My post was somewhat tongue in cheek.
 
maximus otter said:
a) Why the **** should farmers have to, just because some Eurocrats decide over a subsidised three-bottle lunch that wolves might be fun?

b) The words “Up to” are doing a lot of work there. Forbes magazine suggests that providing electric fencing for a five-acre property costs about $7,000 dollars. (US dollars and Euros are roughly equal in value.) I shoot over two farms of roughly 640 and 300 acres respectively. Do the maths yourself…

I fail to see why farmers - already a vanishing species themselves - shouldn’t be required to beggar themselves and toil harder, simply to protect their livestock from introduced animals which the EU itself wants to have culled.

maximus otter
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I'd go as far as saying that wolf-proofing measures should be paid for and provided to farmers by the very people who want to do the rewilding. And they should be the ones to compensate farmers for any losses.
 
Mythopoeika said:
I'd go as far as saying that wolf-proofing measures should be paid for and provided to farmers by the very people who want to do the rewilding. And they should be the ones to compensate farmers for any losses.
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Tomb of the Unknown Farmer,

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What I don't understand about the wolves in the Netherlands (@ramonmercado's post, #79) is why they don't know where the wolves are. Usually, when trying to re-establish a population of an animal, the animals are tracked with collars or something in order to figure out how successful the attempts are.

I am fairly sure that we have sent wolves south to the US in order to re-establish them (I don't remember the particular state), but these wolves have trackers in order to further provide research on the territory they cover, the success of rehoming etc.

Even in the north, we have animals such as polar bears collared to track them. This is, in part, so that the northern towns can see where a particular bear is and if it is coming closer to town.

It is common to track animals so that we can better study animal behaviour etc. Even rescued and released wild animals often have trackers.
 
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