Well, here are the allegations (original Times story paywalled):

The claims against Russell Brand​

  • Woman 1: Claims Brand raped her in his Los Angeles Home
  • Woman 2: Claims Brand forced her to perform oral sex when she was just 16.
  • Woman 3: Claims Brand sexually assault her in LA and threatened legal action if she spoke out.
  • Woman 4: Claims Brand sexually assaulted her and was physically and emotionally abusive
Source:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/23983574/russell-brand-accused-rape-sexual-assaults-abuse/
If all this is true, and we don't yet know that, I'm not surprised. He's never been afraid of being thought sex-mad. Makes my flesh crawl.
 
If all this is true, and we don't yet know that, I'm not surprised. He's never been afraid of being thought sex-mad. Makes my flesh crawl.
I remember when Brand and Noel Fielding were on QI at the same time - I had to turn the TV off, as Brand was/is creepy, and Fielding is just annoying and not as funny as he thinks he is.
 
Well, here are the allegations (original Times story paywalled):

The claims against Russell Brand​

  • Woman 1: Claims Brand raped her in his Los Angeles Home
  • Woman 2: Claims Brand forced her to perform oral sex when she was just 16.
  • Woman 3: Claims Brand sexually assault her in LA and threatened legal action if she spoke out.
  • Woman 4: Claims Brand sexually assaulted her and was physically and emotionally abusive
Source:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/23983574/russell-brand-accused-rape-sexual-assaults-abuse/

In full
:
https://archive.md/NwmVQ

He's toast.
 
One point of discussion that might be put forward ...

Has he been targeted because of what he espouses, he's a 'danger' to MSM, he 'tells it like it is', he's been tarnished etc.
He's the victim here,

or,

He's a jerk and has been 'outed' as one and, apart from his 'followers', his creepiness has been publicised.
 
Has anyone found out how close JS ever came to being formally nicked?
Ah, but here's the trick - now his abuse is well-documented and irrefutable, there seems to be a lack of interest in 'near misses'.
Sure, the BBC became target, but it's amazing how any question of ... ahem ... protection from the police has been quietly dropped.
 
I remember when Brand and Noel Fielding were on QI at the same time - I had to turn the TV off, as Brand was/is creepy, and Fielding is just annoying and not as funny as he thinks he is.
Reminds me of trying to read Max Clifford's memoirs. He exulted in being deceptive and manipulative. The only book I've thrown aside in disgust.
 
One point of discussion that might be put forward ...

Has he been targeted because of what he espouses, he's a 'danger' to MSM, he 'tells it like it is', he's been tarnished etc.
He's the victim here,

or,

He's a jerk and has been 'outed' as one and, apart from his 'followers', his creepiness has been publicised.
I don't really know anything about Russell Brand.

For me the problem is I just don't trust the MSM. They frequently speak as one voice which to me is suspicious in itself. The only thing I know about Brand is that the establishment do not like him one bit and it is possible they got their pet poodles in the media to character assassinate him first.

I don't want to look through various news websites so does any one know if any of these ladies has gone to the police and made statements?
 
Worth noting a conspiracy angle:


It might have been edited for a 'harmless' reason, but why muddy the waters? Probably just inept journalists, but you can be sure this is being presented as evidence of nefarious deeds.

If you can't be bothered with looking into the detail: there might be a date-stamp missing from the image of the very incriminating 'confession/apology' text message (see red X), and it very much looks on the surface as if the image of the exchange has been assembled using two different sections of different quality/resolution (see blue arrow where text grows larger and blurs)—and the join line is in the middle of one message, which is very, very stupid.

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Perhaps this is an innocent 'couldn't screen shot it all', but it is hardly forensic in the detail.
 
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I should stress that I am absolutely NOT a fan of Russel Brand. But there is a track record of alleging sexual abuse against people who publicly defy the PTB's - something Savile never did. He only cared about his own power trip.

Frankly I suspect sexual abuse is widespread among the privileged classes, and they know well how to turn it against those who rattle the cage.

So call me a conspiracy theorist if you like. Since I know well that some (NOT ALL) conspiracies are real - some even operate in plain sight - I will wait for further developments on this.
 
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From @Yithian ‘s “Toast” post:

“Over the past few years, reporters have interviewed hundreds of sources who knew or worked with Brand…

Four women have alleged sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013

Most of the women, who do not know each other, have chosen to remain anonymous.”

Cue Savile Mk.2: “I allus knew there were summat wrong about ‘im…”

Let’s await the verdict of a court, shall we?

maximus otter
 
I should stress that I am absolutely NOT a fan of Russel Brand. But there is a track record of alleging sexual abuse against people who publicly defy the PTB's - something Savile never did. He only cared about his own power trip...

Unfortunately, there is now also a track record of alleging that any such accusations against you are a result of your standing up to the so-called PTB.

The water's have certainly shifted, but are still as muddy as they ever were.

That said, tabloid induced grand guignol will help no-one, including the alleged victims. I agree with @maximus otter's sentiment:

Let’s await the verdict of a court, shall we?
 
From @Yithian ‘s “Toast” post:

“Over the past few years, reporters have interviewed hundreds of sources who knew or worked with Brand…

Four women have alleged sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013
How many assaults do you think should be needed before charges can be brought?
Most of the women, who do not know each other, have chosen to remain anonymous.”
They are anonymous because the stress of reporting this kind of assault is bad enough without the judgement of strangers being personally heaped upon them and their families.
 
We recorded the programme and haven't seen it yet. As nothing I've heard about it surprises me I might not even bother. It's how I'd expect him to behave, for reasons I've already explained.
If you haven't seen any of his stand up "comedy" it is almost worth watching just for sheer wtf factor. In Plain Sight hardly even covers it.
 
We recorded the programme and haven't seen it yet. As nothing I've heard about it surprises me I might not even bother. It's how I'd expect him to behave, for reasons I've already explained.

As for this,

Takes one to know one.
What programme's this please and which channel is it on?.
 
How many assaults do you think should be needed before charges can be brought?

They are anonymous because the stress of reporting this kind of assault is bad enough without the judgement of strangers being personally heaped upon them and their families.

What charges?

How does Brand respond to anonymous allegations in a telly documentary? It’s trial by TV, and that’s not how we do things in the civilised world.

All we are going to hear is the usual old women knitting by the guillotine, rehashing variants of “No smoke without fire”, and “I allus knew there were summat wrong about ‘im…”

Brand is faced with the classic “When did you stop beating your wife?” question from the media, isn’t he? When he denies the allegations, the knitters will simply respond, “Well, that’s what he would say, isn’t it?

Let’s wait for the trial. If there is one.

maximus otter
 
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From @Yithian ‘s “Toast” post:

“Over the past few years, reporters have interviewed hundreds of sources who knew or worked with Brand…

Four women have alleged sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013

Most of the women, who do not know each other, have chosen to remain anonymous.”

Cue Savile Mk.2: “I allus knew there were summat wrong about ‘im…”

Let’s await the verdict of a court, shall we?

maximus otter

My 'toast' judgment was not a legal prediction.

I mean he's cancelled. His name is not now going to appear anywhere 'reputable' without these allegations attached to it, regardless of what ensues in the courts.
 
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