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SAFIRE Update

Philosoraptor

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Apologies in advance - unsure if this belongs here or in Damned Science as its on the cusp and pretty argumentative against "traditional" astrophysics.

Project SAFIRE:
In a nutshell - taking the electric universe model and attempting to recreate the atmosphere of the sun in a plasma chamber on earth.

Full video
 
WOW!
They need to stop the anode melting completely, somehow.
 
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I can't claim to have the technical knowledge to debate the subject, but the video doesn't show anything clear to me. There's talk of a reactor of some kind but we don't get to see it. There's certainly a 'lab' of some kind & lot of computer screens.

Mainstream science is fairly scathing about the electric universe scenario. Here's Rational Wiki's take on it.

EU advocates can be roughly split into two groups. The first are garden-variety physics cranks who are convinced that they have a legitimate, revolutionary scientific theory, and that the scientific establishment is either blindly ignoring them out of misplaced faith in their own theories, or deliberately suppressing them for some greater, nefarious purpose.

The second group is composed of various other woo-peddlers who use EU claims to prop up their main ideas (because mainstream physics would blow them apart). For these people, the EU hypothesis is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself.

SAFIRE Project
The International Science Foundation (a front group of EU supporters who falsely claim to neither support nor oppose the Electric Universe hypothesis) says that they provided $2,200,000 USD to fund a laboratory experiment to test the EU claims regarding the nature of the Sun. There is no independent analysis of their work and no publications about SAFIRE found on Google Scholar. The SAFIRE Project is housed in Mississauga, Ontario, and is documented in videos from the EU2016 conference. They say that their intent is to compare the results of this experiment to the results of NASA's Solar Probe Plus mission, and thereby demonstrate whether the EU solar model has any grounding in reality
Or here, if you've got several days to spare.
 
One obvious problem in their video is their chart of the efficiency of various energy sources shows a number of them to be over 100% efficient, with wind being claimed to be over 1100% efficient.
 
One obvious problem in their video is their chart of the efficiency of various energy sources shows a number of them to be over 100% efficient, with wind being claimed to be over 1100% efficient.
Yes, I found that hard to swallow.
 
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