IbisNibs
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Dear mods, if this should be merged with another thread dealing with magic societies or true crime, please relocate it. This topic has put a bee in my bonnet, so I may have missed a more suitable place for it. (There are other posts that mention Clapham Woods, but this isn't meant to be about only that or about haunting. It's actually a bit of a rant.)
I just listened to the most recent Unexplained podcast (SO4 episode 18) which is about the weird goings on at Chanctonbury Ring in Clapham Woods in Sussex. The place sounded delectably eerie until the part with the mysterious disappearances of human beings, whose remains were later found in areas well searched after their disappearance. These mysterious deaths, the disappearance of dogs , and maybe even of a horse, on this site have been ascribed to a mysterious group that calls/called itself Friends of Hecate, a group that involves/involved "people in high places holding positions of power and authority." Presumably these people in high places can make witnesses clam up, since evidence regarding the mysterious deaths is very scant.
It's not a unique story.
Here's my beef:
1 - What kind of a sick f[***] needs to cloak their murderous tendencies by creating such a society, and who would be seduced into joining it if there was any hint of violence to it? Just admit that you and your friends are serial killers, and that you use your overweening sense of privilege, money and/or the threat of violence to coerce obedience from the saps who get sucked into your orbit. What's the difference between this and forming a criminal gang, or small time domestic terrorist group? There is no magic power in your activities and successes, just the dark side of human nature.
2 - Why do people greedy for personal power and dominance gravitate toward "magic" anyway? Why not just stick to crime syndicates, sales, politics and mid-managment instead? Why is "magic" conflated with "Satanism," and why are either used as an excuse to be domineering and lethal?
3 - Using "magic" and magical traditions to satisfy greed for power and domination does a disservice to people who follow neopagan or wiccan or non-European polytheistic traditions as spirtual paths. I'm not one myself, but I've been acquainted with many, and have been impressed with their sincerity, love of nature and kindness to others.
Forteans: thoughts, ideas, anecdotes?
I just listened to the most recent Unexplained podcast (SO4 episode 18) which is about the weird goings on at Chanctonbury Ring in Clapham Woods in Sussex. The place sounded delectably eerie until the part with the mysterious disappearances of human beings, whose remains were later found in areas well searched after their disappearance. These mysterious deaths, the disappearance of dogs , and maybe even of a horse, on this site have been ascribed to a mysterious group that calls/called itself Friends of Hecate, a group that involves/involved "people in high places holding positions of power and authority." Presumably these people in high places can make witnesses clam up, since evidence regarding the mysterious deaths is very scant.
It's not a unique story.
Here's my beef:
1 - What kind of a sick f[***] needs to cloak their murderous tendencies by creating such a society, and who would be seduced into joining it if there was any hint of violence to it? Just admit that you and your friends are serial killers, and that you use your overweening sense of privilege, money and/or the threat of violence to coerce obedience from the saps who get sucked into your orbit. What's the difference between this and forming a criminal gang, or small time domestic terrorist group? There is no magic power in your activities and successes, just the dark side of human nature.
2 - Why do people greedy for personal power and dominance gravitate toward "magic" anyway? Why not just stick to crime syndicates, sales, politics and mid-managment instead? Why is "magic" conflated with "Satanism," and why are either used as an excuse to be domineering and lethal?
3 - Using "magic" and magical traditions to satisfy greed for power and domination does a disservice to people who follow neopagan or wiccan or non-European polytheistic traditions as spirtual paths. I'm not one myself, but I've been acquainted with many, and have been impressed with their sincerity, love of nature and kindness to others.
Forteans: thoughts, ideas, anecdotes?