James_H
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I was introduced to this subject by this excellent podcast.
Basically, it seems that some serial killers have claimed to have worked for or have been part of a wider network, often a satanic cult who commit murders as sacrifices. It seems like most of these claims are paper-thin (Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole seem to have given colourful confessions to many murders they didn't actually commit with the complicity of the police who just wanted to mark the cases 'solved').
In the podcast they conclude that the closest thing to a real-life version of this was the case of Adolfo Constanzo, the leader of a palo cult in Mexico and sorcerer to the stars of the crime world, who gruesomely murdered as part of his magickal endeavours (along with sacrificing zoo animals).
I recently learned more about the murderer David Parker Ray and his accomplices (I don't recommend, the details of his crimes are distressing in the extreme). One thing that struck me is though his main M.O. was to keep sex/torture-slaves, he made various claims of satanism and anti-christianity. He decorated the R.V. he committed his crimes in with a sign saying 'Satan's Den' and told one of his victims that he was part of a satanic sex-cult. Though he did work with his girlfriend, daughter, and other friends to commit his crimes, he apparently stopped claiming to be involved with satanism.
David Berkowitz's satanic cult claims:
And perhaps more far-fetched, Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole's claims of being indoctrinated into a cult called The Hand Of Death:
Another case is that of the Ripper Crew, a rare group of four serial murderers and torturers, who claimed to be a satanic cult. Once again, the details of the crimes are upsetting.
Does anyone else have any more information about this subject? Could there be anything in it? In all the cases mentioned above (apart from Berkowitz), the killers did manage to find like-minded individuals to work with, as hard as that is to imagine. So is it possible for people to maintain a murder cult and keep it under the radar?
Serial killers are insane, prone to exaggeration and delusion, and often inveterate liars. Amid some of their wilder claims, several notable serial killers, such as David Berkowitz and Henry Lee Lucas, have stated that they were killing on the orders of a cult. Is there any way it could be true?
Basically, it seems that some serial killers have claimed to have worked for or have been part of a wider network, often a satanic cult who commit murders as sacrifices. It seems like most of these claims are paper-thin (Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole seem to have given colourful confessions to many murders they didn't actually commit with the complicity of the police who just wanted to mark the cases 'solved').
In the podcast they conclude that the closest thing to a real-life version of this was the case of Adolfo Constanzo, the leader of a palo cult in Mexico and sorcerer to the stars of the crime world, who gruesomely murdered as part of his magickal endeavours (along with sacrificing zoo animals).
I recently learned more about the murderer David Parker Ray and his accomplices (I don't recommend, the details of his crimes are distressing in the extreme). One thing that struck me is though his main M.O. was to keep sex/torture-slaves, he made various claims of satanism and anti-christianity. He decorated the R.V. he committed his crimes in with a sign saying 'Satan's Den' and told one of his victims that he was part of a satanic sex-cult. Though he did work with his girlfriend, daughter, and other friends to commit his crimes, he apparently stopped claiming to be involved with satanism.
David Berkowitz's satanic cult claims:
After his admission to Sullivan prison, Berkowitz began to claim that he had joined a Sataniccult in the spring of 1975. He had met some of its members at a party, and he initially thought the group was only involved in occult activities such as séances and fortune-telling; the group, however, gradually introduced him to drug use, sadism, crime and murder. Berkowitz states that he knew roughly two dozen core members in New York—the "twenty-two disciples of hell" mentioned by the Breslin letter—and he also claimed that the group had associates across the USA who engaged in drug smuggling and other illegal activities.
And perhaps more far-fetched, Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole's claims of being indoctrinated into a cult called The Hand Of Death:
Henry tells of his indoctrination into a nationwide Satanic cult, and says that he was trained by the cult in a mobile paramilitary camp in the Florida Everglades in the fine art of killing. Other training involved abduction and arson techniques. The first task he was given was the murder of one of the "students," a young black homosexual who had betrayed his oath to the Devil. He slit the man's throat and later that same evening, a Satanic ritual was performed in which the dead man's heart was cut out, his blood drained, and his body dismembered. All of the initiated members of the Hand drank the dead man's blood and ate pieces of his flesh. The remains of the body were then burned at an altar.
There were several hundred students at the Hand of Death training camp, coming from six different countries; over half of them were women. The camp provided unlimited access to all kinds of drug taking, which was encouraged recreational activity.
Another case is that of the Ripper Crew, a rare group of four serial murderers and torturers, who claimed to be a satanic cult. Once again, the details of the crimes are upsetting.
Does anyone else have any more information about this subject? Could there be anything in it? In all the cases mentioned above (apart from Berkowitz), the killers did manage to find like-minded individuals to work with, as hard as that is to imagine. So is it possible for people to maintain a murder cult and keep it under the radar?